fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-10-31

[08:45:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> morning anastasiac! i know joanna's quite busy so i was wondering if you had a sec to talk through the active/focus/hover behaviour happening on the vid controls (vidplayer demo). i see buttons and controls turn blue when they have keyboard focus, and the mute button turns blue when i click it with mouse but not the others… wanting to figure out some consistency. i'm wondering if the blue should just be for keyboard? the dark g

[08:45:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> with mouse hover

[08:46:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> sure, heidiv, why don't I go on Skype...

[08:46:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> hey that sounds good

[09:30:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> anastasiac michelled alexn1 this one feels blocker-y http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4600 thoughts? should we add to iteration plan?

[09:31:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I didn't think it was a blocker for a first release. why do you think it is heidiv?

[09:31:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> michelled just looking at the image - it inhibits readability/usability/functionality

[09:31:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> actually, heidiv, the screenshot you posted is related to a separate issue that I just filed this morning, which Julia brought to our attention: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4831

[09:31:57 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> and looks brokeny

[09:32:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> aha, ok

[09:32:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> the issue that 4600 is referring to is a different "caption overlay": a large text in the centre of the video that confirms that captions were turned on or off

[09:32:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> it doesn't' exist yet

[09:32:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> gotcha - i'll delete my comment/image. should 4831 be a blocker?

[09:34:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> good question. I'd say it should be a blocker for OER Commons at least (which is a later deadline). We might want to double-check with Julia if she feels it's a blocker for SNOW integration, but I might say yes. What do you think, michelled?

[09:34:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I think it is anastasiac

[09:34:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, I'll modify the jira and add it to the iteration page

[10:47:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> looking at video player on flickr (and jess's cute kid) - i like the insta-appear controls vs. the slide up/down jumpiness. jvass or anyone else, was there a reason for one and not the other?

[10:48:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> maybe i should stop complaining about it i think i just don't like things moving.

[10:49:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> the quick fade in/out seems a lot more peaceful

[10:53:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidiv: Perhaps we could consider when is the best time to bring up these kinds of questions?

[10:53:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I really like that you're thinking through these kinds of issues

[10:53:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but you are, to be fair, coming in a bit late into the process

[10:53:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and I know michelled has a release planned that she wants to get out sooner rather than later

[10:54:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> My general sense is that in any meritocracy, you'll get further with suggestions based on the impact you have on the overall code base

[10:54:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> right, will hold off

[10:54:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> rather than just complaining from the sidelines, if you see what I mean

[10:54:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Not that I think you're complaining

[10:55:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and I know you want to help

[10:55:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and I want you to help too

[10:55:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but my sense is that the best way to help is to start by having a measurable impact on the code

[10:55:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> make it better, fix lots of bugs, add new important features

[10:55:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that will put you in a position where you've got the whole picture and can then start to help influence the direction

[10:56:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> sounds good

[10:57:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> again, it's not that I don't want suggestions

[10:57:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> more just that suggestions tend to be better received from someone who's really got "skin in the game" as the expression goes

[10:58:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so keep it up

[11:02:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> colinclark i see value in outside user suggestions. perhaps there'd be a way to file such things in jira for later consideration? i'm wondering if there'd be a fitting drop down category.

[11:02:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidiv: I do too

[11:02:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hugely

[11:03:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But my point is that you're not an outside user

[11:03:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You're different.

[11:03:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Filing JIRAs is always an awesome thing to do, and I highly recommend it

[11:04:33 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yes, I find it really useful when people file JIRAs - I guess it fits with my world view of issue tracker as collective memory

[11:05:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> it would be great if you could file it heidiv!

[13:34:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: would anyone like to join the community meeting remotely?

[16:04:51 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: just got my new nexus 7

[16:04:58 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> trying to install ubuntu on it right now :O

[16:05:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey, awesome!

[16:05:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what''d it end up costing you?

[16:05:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> if i can ask

[16:05:18 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> 280 after tax / devlivery

[16:05:23 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> for the 32 gb

[16:05:31 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> i really hope dual booting gets supported

[16:07:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> pretty great deal

[16:07:06 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> yup

[16:07:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What's the screen like?

[16:07:12 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> gorgeous

[16:07:14 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> and truthfully

[16:07:18 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> android 4.1 is amazing on it

[16:07:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I decided to hold off on a iPad mini because I want retina

[16:07:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what's the resolution like?

[16:07:33 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> its really nice

[16:07:47 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> that stats on this out perform the mini I think

[16:09:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool

[16:09:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thealphanerd: You had questions for me the other day and I was in a meeting and missed you

[16:09:41 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I think it was about this ubuntu nexus 7 stuff

[16:09:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah

[16:10:38 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> 1280×800

[16:10:41 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> is screen resolution btw

[16:11:01 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> ipad mini is 1024 × 76

[16:11:08 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> 768

[16:12:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yup

[16:17:47 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> the 7 is sexy

[16:17:49 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> imho

[16:30:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> make any new music last week, thealphanerd?

[16:30:45 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> yeah

[16:31:01 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> http://soundcloud.com/thealphanerd/physical-model-and-sampler

[16:31:04 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> first iteration though

[16:31:06 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> really rough

[16:31:26 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~mborins/220a/hw3.html

[16:31:43 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> https://ccrma.stanford.edu/courses/220a/homework/3/

[16:37:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> crazy stuff

[16:37:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll have to spend some time with your chuck score

[16:38:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> how do you like ChucK, thealphanerd?

[16:39:13 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> that score was provided

[16:39:16 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> and I just hacked on it a bit

[16:39:20 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I really have to work on it

[17:12:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thealphanerd: Just in time for your new Nexus 7, I think I might have a stable Flocking implementation for Android and Linux Firefox.

[17:16:06 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> awesome!

[22:49:50 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> Bosmon2: you round?