fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-10-23

[05:06:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> kasper: ping

[05:41:17 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> hey javier

[05:41:25 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> sorry for nto seeing the ping til now

[05:44:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> kasper: hey!

[05:44:54 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> boyan1: hi!

[05:45:17 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> hola jhernandez

[05:45:20 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I was wondering if the linux solution is currently working fine

[05:45:24 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> :]

[05:45:51 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I'm getting a Module version mismatch error

[05:45:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> :s

[05:46:05 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> version mismatch, Expected 10, got 1

[05:46:18 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> jhernandez: it was last time I tried it

[05:46:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I pulled node again, universal and the linux repo

[05:46:45 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> and the issue is still there

[05:47:00 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> hmm that's weird

[05:47:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> the problem is with the gsettingsBridge bits of code

[05:47:55 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> should I file a bug in jira? or is the problem behind the chair and the keyboard?

[05:48:04 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> :]

[05:48:21 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yeah, if you could file a jira, i'll try reproduce this afternoon and let you know the results

[05:48:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> ok thanks

[05:48:54 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> :]

[05:49:09 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> jhernandez: np, and thanks for finding/reporting the potential bug

[05:49:23 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> jhernandez: going afk for lunch, but will be back in ~30 mins

[05:49:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> np

[05:49:35 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> enjoy it!

[05:49:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez>

[05:49:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> que aproveche!

[05:49:51 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> :]

[05:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> gracias

[05:54:56 CDT(-0500)] <boyan1> jhernandez: hey

[05:55:04 CDT(-0500)] <boyan1> haven't tried the linux code in a while

[05:55:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> boyan1: ok

[05:55:41 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I was about to integrate my dbusBridge into the flow manager

[05:56:03 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> pulled all components again, and I get into this issue

[05:56:38 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> and it seems that the problems comes from the gsettings_handler

[05:57:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I tried to run their tests and didn't run at all because of this "mismatch version" problem

[06:01:04 CDT(-0500)] <boyan1> jhernandez, I will try to find some time and give it a try later today as well

[06:02:38 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> boyan1: ok

[06:03:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> btw, I'm filing a bug with the error

[06:07:51 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> boyan1: http://issues.gpii.net/browse/GPII-48

[06:25:55 CDT(-0500)] <boyan1> thanks, jhernandez

[06:29:34 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> I'd say that the problem is coming from some change in Node.js

[06:29:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> boyan1: yw

[06:29:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez>

[06:37:06 CDT(-0500)] <boyan1> jhernandez, yes - the message sounds familiar, I'm sure I've seen it before (I believe in Linz) and we fixed it by reverting to a previous version of Node.js then

[06:37:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> heh

[06:37:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> see https://github.com/joyent/node/blob/master/src/node.cc#L1767

[08:03:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: from the commits it looks like you got the zip download working

[08:07:45 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> http://www.joedolson.com/articles/2012/10/new-plug-in-wp-accessibility/

[08:09:55 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, Justin_o

[08:10:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: that's great

[09:34:17 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o, cindyli - I keep getting a 404 not found with Exporter, but I can access Dewarp Server properly.

[09:34:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: did you clear the cache?

[09:35:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yep justin_o

[09:36:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I even pulled down a fresh copy of the repo from googlecode.

[10:06:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> kasper: JFYI, I researched a little bit about the problem, and seems that the problem comes from node.js

[10:06:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> we should move from node-waf to node-gyp

[10:06:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> and check if the error still remains

[10:42:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sorry, missed that last message.. did you get it working now?

[10:43:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> no luck justin_o.

[10:44:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: what is the url of the page you are getting?

[10:44:27 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> http://localhost:8080/components/exporter/html/exporter.html

[10:45:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> hmm.. it should work.. let me try again on mine

[10:46:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: working for me

[10:46:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> weird. :/

[10:46:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: is that file actually in your repo?

[10:47:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: yes it is.

[10:47:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> no clue then

[10:48:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: did you update from my repo?

[10:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yep. I pulled in your changes and updated.

[10:49:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Maybe test with a fresh checkout? I'm going to try again justin_o

[10:49:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. good luck

[11:52:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> kasper: moving from node-waf to node-gyp fixes the issue for sure

[11:52:30 CDT(-0500)] <jhernandez> JFYI

[12:02:05 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o:

[12:02:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: yes..

[12:02:21 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> i pushed up changes on exception detection

[12:02:26 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> for additional cameras

[12:02:44 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> actually no exception in that case

[12:03:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: great thanks.. working on the function to find the first and last images still

[12:45:59 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: i will start writing unit tests for capturer.js

[12:47:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: thanks

[12:52:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: forgot to mention that I got Exporter working again.

[12:53:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: oh great.. what was the problem?

[12:53:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> not sure. i ended up grabbing a fresh copy from our repos and it works.

[12:54:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: well that's good i guess

[12:57:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: i'm about to push up my changes to the server

[12:58:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> great, Justin_o

[12:58:22 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> hey colinclark

[12:58:35 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> crazy timing… I just popped in to see if you were here

[12:58:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thealphanerd!

[12:58:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> here i am

[12:58:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and you too

[12:58:58 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so it sounds like mayank is interested in helping with flocking!

[12:59:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> was thinking of you yesterday when tindale was telling me how cool CCRMA is

[12:59:10 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I'm pointing him in the direction of the good parts and some documentation on this vs that

[12:59:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> great

[12:59:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have to respond to his latest email

[12:59:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but it'll be awesome to work with him

[12:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Tell him I'm really looking forward to it

[12:59:32 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> !!!

[12:59:50 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> also… have you heard about the language faust before (sorry if I already asked this)

[13:00:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I don't think you have brought it up

[13:00:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but yes, I've heard about it

[13:00:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> a DSP "generation" language

[13:00:13 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> yup

[13:00:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> they added early web audio support to it recently

[13:00:18 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> can compile to a variety of platforms

[13:00:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yup

[13:00:34 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: I was just about to say… Julius was saying it is going to be rolled in to chrome

[13:00:40 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> Faust -> v8

[13:00:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah, the Faust team has a custom build of Chrome with it built in

[13:01:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I suspect that it will never actually ship this way, but perhaps ultimately they will have a Chrome extension or something

[13:01:26 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> fair enough

[13:01:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> my sense, and perhaps i'm wrong...

[13:01:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> is that Faust is good for doing DSP research and prototyping

[13:02:00 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> Julius seemed to think it was going to ship in general release

[13:02:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe less the sort of thing you'd want to use to make music with, directly

[13:02:16 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> aparantly the compile time is super fast

[13:02:33 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so that you can use it to essentially make dsp black box's that you then use the browser to control

[13:02:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Perhaps Julius is privy to more information than me, but from the Web Audio mailing list, it sounded like it was an experiment

[13:02:56 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I should get on that mailing list

[13:03:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm curious about the extent to which Faust generates its own "black boxes" as you say, versus using the ones built in to the Web Audio API

[13:03:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which are, to some extent, a point of contention for me

[13:03:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> in other respects, they're very good

[13:04:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> By Flocking 0.5, I anticipate a much deeper integration of our declarative model with the Web Audio API

[13:04:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but so far performance seems pretty good and we get much wider browser coverage by not using many of the built in "Nodes"

[13:05:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> When Chris Rogers adds Web Worker support to the API, things'll get a lot more interesting

[13:05:13 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: have you thought more about the global architecture?

[13:05:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> in that we can generate all our signals in a separate thread

[13:05:23 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I guess that web worker stuff would change things

[13:05:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, it'll change things a lot, and for the better

[13:06:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> are you able to make any music there yet?

[13:06:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or write any code?

[13:06:20 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> both

[13:06:33 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> although mostly avant garde stuff

[13:06:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool

[13:06:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what are you working on?

[13:06:58 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> http://soundcloud.com/thealphanerd/dada-hoo-papa-choo-papa

[13:07:05 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> a binaural mix inspired by dada rituals

[13:07:10 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> http://soundcloud.com/thealphanerd/piracy-is-a-fickle-bitch

[13:07:22 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> all sounds generated by data feeds in chuck

[13:07:38 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> https://secure.vimeo.com/51718468

[13:07:49 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> work with pd and beagle board

[13:08:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it sounds awesome, thealphanerd

[13:08:08 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd>

[13:08:09 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> thanks

[13:09:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I really like the ChucK piece, thealphanerd

[13:10:16 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~mborins/220a/hw1.html

[13:10:19 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> a bit more info on that one

[13:13:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> you should do one project in Flocking, thealphanerd

[13:17:03 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: I totally am going to

[13:17:24 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: I really want to work on svg based control elements

[13:17:34 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> most likely implemented a fluid components

[13:17:54 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> knob / slider / x-y

[13:18:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool

[13:28:05 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: dsp makes my head hurt

[13:28:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>

[13:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so much maths

[13:28:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes

[13:28:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it's tough stuff

[13:28:28 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/mdft/Geometric_Signal_Theory.html

[13:28:31 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> where I'm at right now

[13:28:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was reading through Julius' filters book, and man was tough

[13:28:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have this book, too, but haven't started it

[13:29:53 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> this is the first of two books we go through this quarter

[13:30:00 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> the other is his filters book

[13:30:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> right

[13:30:58 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so much material in such a short time

[13:31:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and so dense!

[13:31:11 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> going from never having heard of j to the dft in 4 weeks

[14:27:27 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: Would you like me to add markup for the "Checking cameras" status message?

[14:27:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sure, but check with cindyli first since she's working on the ui right now

[14:28:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i'm fixing up some issues with the server at the moment

[14:34:32 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: yes please

[14:34:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> thanks cindyli.

[14:34:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np

[15:16:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: i've updated the server now and pushed my changes up to my repo.. it should be keeping track of the first and last captures now

[15:16:45 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> cool. thanks, Justin_o