fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-10-02
[12:27:11 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: where is the documentation you did for basic a11y for the ISKME devs?
[12:27:43 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, do you mean this? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/docs/Quick-and-Dirty+Website+Accessibility+Tests+-+and+Fixes
[14:58:38 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> colinclark: ayt? could you review my branch whenever you have a minute https://github.com/anvk/OER-Commons/compare/ISKME:staging...OER-793
[14:58:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> in a call at the moment
[14:58:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll try to take a look soon
[14:59:16 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> colinclark: thanks. Whenever you are free is good, it is not urgent.
[15:21:09 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> evening yura
[15:21:24 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> do you know if there is a ETA on GPII-40?
[15:21:48 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: it's up to Bosmon
[15:22:12 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Bosmon: http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/27514006.jpg
[15:22:31 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ah, so likely 3-4am mountain time
[15:22:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> hahaha
[15:22:47 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: hopefully
[15:22:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yura: eek, don't show that meme!
[15:22:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm doomed to see it continuously
[15:22:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> from, say, Bosmon himself
[15:23:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or michelled
[15:23:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or alexn
[15:23:02 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yes
[15:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> doomed!
[15:23:08 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> haha
[15:23:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> yura - is that stuff all ready? : P
[15:23:23 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Bosmon: yes, you can run all tests at once
[15:23:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'll look at it later today
[15:23:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Great
[15:23:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Super
[15:23:34 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Bosmon: thanks!
[15:23:49 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: so by tomorrow morning your time you might be able to update your pull request
[15:23:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yura: Can I see your olympic meme again
[15:23:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I loved that one
[15:24:09 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> awesome! Thanks yura and Bosmon
[15:24:11 CDT(-0500)] <yura> dont remember which one was that ?
[15:24:28 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yura: probably had something to do with the olympics
[15:24:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> look at kasper, always helping
[15:24:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: good one
[15:24:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[15:25:55 CDT(-0500)] <yura> cant find it in logs
[15:38:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey michelled: I only accept new pull requests accompanied with memes. https://github.com/fluid-project/videoPlayer/pull/69
[15:40:22 CDT(-0500)] <michelled>
[15:41:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: good thing it's not really a new pull request
[15:41:40 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I had a really weird thing happen in my branch where the french captions weren't working for me. It seemed like there was something wrong with what had been pushed up so I recreated the branch.
[15:41:59 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> deleting the brach on github caused the original pull request to close
[15:54:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I have a fix for captions in Safari that is based on michelled's FLUID-4701 branch. Would you prefer I wait until that request is merged before I issue my request, or should I go ahead and issue one with a note explaining that it's dependent on michelled's pull request? which would be easier for you?
[15:54:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> meme please, anastasiac
[15:54:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> see above
[15:55:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark: http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/427f388bc88cd6ab7c2069aefbeede55c35e5666_m.jpg
[15:55:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[15:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> a classically anastasiac-esque meme
[15:55:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks!
[15:58:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i will review it very soon; i think I can probably get it in tonight if michelled and alexn are okay with it
[15:58:25 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good to me
[15:59:10 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> alexn: sounds good to me as well
[16:42:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I had misread your earlier question, thinking it related to Antranig's framework fix which I still have on deck to review
[16:42:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> if your new pull request depends on one of michelled's, I'd say make it with a note explaining the depdency
[16:42:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> okley
[16:42:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> no way I'll get michelled's new branch in tonight
[16:42:51 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac>
[16:42:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but tomorrow, most likely
[16:43:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> your framework JIRA--was that FLUID-4799?
[16:44:06 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, I think that was Bosmon's JIRA, yes
[16:44:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> though I don't have a pull request dependent on it
[16:45:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ah
[16:45:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I just remember this email from you
[16:45:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "FYI, I've tested Antranig's branch with the video player, and it has fixed the problem I had encountered. Looking forward to seeing this fix merged into master."
[16:45:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I imagined it was very pressing
[16:45:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess they all are
[16:45:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> eek, no winking intended
[16:45:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> just this
[17:05:44 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark, Bosmon: In the solution registry, each solution declares a "capabilities" block within each settingsHandler.
[17:05:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> kasper - they do
[17:06:07 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It could not be denied, even if you tried with both hands
[17:06:31 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark, Bosmon: disregarding that it feels wrong to declare capabilities within each settingsHandler, rather than a global solution setting ... are they there to stay (ie. worth documenting) and what are they supposed to contain
[17:06:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, they're there to stay
[17:06:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and they're scoped to a settingsHandler based on your advice, in fact
[17:07:00 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Right now they contain the names of needs which can't be inferred directly from the name of a setting which has a value
[17:07:00 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> currently it seems they only point to the application name (eg. "display.screenEnhancement.screenMagnification.applications.org\\.gnome\\.desktop\\.a11y
.magnifier.name")
[17:07:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> kasper: Yes, and that's only due to a bug
[17:07:42 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark: doh - well.. I think "never listen to kasper's advice" is the lesson we can learn from that
[17:07:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[17:07:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> no, it was good advice
[17:09:07 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ok, so if I understand this right - the capabilities block contains the needs and preferences (from Common Terms Registry) that the solution (via settingsHandler) accomodates?
[17:09:58 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ok, I can actually see I probably didn't get that quite right
[17:11:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i have to run for a sec
[17:11:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but in brief, the capabilities block (which some day should be renamed, perhaps) contains the "tags" that associate a particular preference with an ontology
[17:11:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so, were we to have a flat preference such as "speechSynthesizerSpeechRate"
[17:12:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> the capabilities block might well contain a reference to the ontology term "screenReader"
[17:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> to tell us that a user doesn't want any old speechSynthesizer, but something more
[17:12:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> if you think about it a different way, it's a place for the preferences that "never get set"
[17:12:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In that clearly JAWS doesn't need to be told it's a screen reader
[17:12:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> though Bosmon's cat idiom might suggest otherwise
[17:13:11 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> doesn't his cat know it's a cat?
[17:13:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's an important question
[17:13:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But one that I try to reduce any doubt about as much as possible : P
[17:14:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> YOU ARE AN "AssistiveProductThatRecordPlayAndDisplayAudioAndVisualInformation"
[17:14:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> !
[17:14:08 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> hahaha
[17:14:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and with that
[17:14:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll brb
[17:15:09 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ok, I think I got it more or less now β thanks
[17:16:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Actually I haven't been informing my CATT that he is a CATTT very much recently
[17:16:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Perhaps he's showing more signs of believing it
[17:17:28 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon: haha, well you probably should keep reminding him, just in case he forgets
[17:25:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> kasper - so sorry about the cell phone, it had slipped my mind - I'll make sure it gets sent out to you
[17:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> np at all Bosmon - had slipped my mind as well, and it's not like I've been needing it