fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-03-25

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[10:45:34 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Clean-Up Parade' set by Justin_o on 2009-03-25 08:53:22 EDT(-0400)
[10:45:43 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: that would be great
[10:45:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> EricDalquist, thanks for the offer, that sounds great
[10:45:52 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: and maybe we three can talk while you're in the UK
[10:46:02 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> time zones are easier for us there
[10:46:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> who should be the point person from Fluid for managing the repo?
[10:46:31 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> jessm, so where are you located? I am in metz, france myself.
[10:46:47 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: i'm in boston usually but am in Toronto with the ATRC team this week
[10:47:00 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> ok.
[10:47:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> EricDalquist, good question (wink)
[10:47:19 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: great! thanks for poking us
[10:47:23 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: i've got to pop out of the channel for a bit but i'll be back
[10:47:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> EricDalquist: what information would you need to set it up? an email address? or just userid?
[10:48:09 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so I would setup one person from Fluid as a Nexus admin
[10:48:15 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so they could create other user accounts and stuff
[10:48:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> to set up their account I would need a userid & email
[10:49:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, why don't you use me as the point person?
[10:49:19 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> sounds good
[10:50:08 EDT(-0400)] <scottbattaglia> anastasiac, what are you guys using to build Fluid? custom scripts or ant or maven?
[10:50:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> scottbattaglia: ant
[10:51:33 EDT(-0400)] <scottbattaglia> ah okay. That will be a little bit more work to get into the repo then since you don't have poms
[10:52:38 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> scottbattaglia: with Nexus you can fill out the POM info in the upload webui
[10:53:02 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we did have poms at one point. for sakai integration I think. I'm really not sure if they are in use anymore
[10:53:15 EDT(-0400)] <scottbattaglia> EricDalquist: yeah I know, but does it handle versions and such as well?
[10:53:33 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> yup
[11:00:14 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We do have poms
[11:00:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I don't believe there is anything wrong with them (tongue)
[11:00:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We just need a repo....
[11:00:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> which Eric is offering (smile)
[11:00:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Although the pom image does not include what we call "the distribution"
[11:00:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> THat is, the ant build and the Maven build are currently not related
[11:02:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmon, thanks so much for volunteering to fix that! (wink)
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[11:07:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Bosmon: you committed a change to jquery.tooltip.js yesterday. Did you happen to provide a patch back to the plugin creator?
[11:09:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: I can probably guess the answer to that question, since we've all been a little under the gun with the 1.0 release.
[11:09:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But undoubtedly it's nice of us to share fixes back, and we should.
[11:09:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> for sure
[11:10:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I guess I'm wondering how we should deal with patches we make to other people's things
[11:10:20 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I guess at the least we should document it somewhere
[11:10:36 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> but where? anastasiac?
[11:11:08 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> good question.
[11:11:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I did notice that we're using an older version of the tooltip plugin.
[11:11:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Here's the changelog: http://jquery.bassistance.de/tooltip/changelog.txt
[11:11:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We're running 1.2
[11:11:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> right now, we have a readme in the jquery folder describing which version the ui.*.js files are
[11:11:34 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> maybe a similar approach?
[11:12:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the JIRA is now in the code, maybe attaching a patch file to the JIRA as a record?
[11:12:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think the point with this change in tooltip is actually that it's not a full fix.
[11:13:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o and I agreed with we'd sleep on this blocker and see where we get to with fresh eyes.
[11:13:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ah, and therefore probably not something we want to share back anyway
[11:14:16 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Not yet, anyway.
[11:14:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This particular issue, FLUID-2323 if I remember, is actually two problems in one.
[11:14:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> First, a null pointer exception is sometimes thrown when clicking on page links.
[11:14:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Secondly, when this happens, IE ends up crashing.
[11:14:56 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Well
[11:15:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I am not sure it is a "when this happens"
[11:15:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This "proximate" fix, as Boz called it, just gets rid of the exception.
[11:15:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Ah, ok
[11:15:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> so they're unconnected
[11:15:16 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> My current feeling is that there are two separate problems
[11:15:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> k
[11:15:29 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, because sometimes I will see the crash even without clicking on any links
[11:15:39 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> As I mentioned, sometimes, the page will just crash on initial load (sad)
[11:16:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (sad)
[11:16:16 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I suspect the whole tooltip structure isn't actually implicated in the overall crash
[11:16:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think this is the first blocker we've had that has held up a release for us.
[11:16:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I already tried removing the bgiframe file as a possible culprit
[11:16:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We are going to hold up the release for it?
[11:16:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Luckily we have the padding of Clean Up Parade, so there's no huge pressure
[11:16:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Even though I am the only one who can demonstrate the issue? (tongue)
[11:16:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Hard to ship a major component that blows up in a major browser.
[11:17:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Justin can see it too.
[11:17:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I seem immune to it
[11:17:14 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Justin has seen IE crash?
[11:17:20 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o can't see it anymore
[11:17:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I believe so, yes. Justin_o?
[11:17:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled is the messenger for the king. (tongue)
[11:17:40 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (smile)
[11:17:41 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> He couldn't see the failure the last I spoke to him last night
[11:17:57 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> after Bosmon committed last night, I haven't been able to see it
[11:18:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> "I heeyah the cyeaanons raaaur - IS IT THE KING APPROACHING?"
[11:18:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[11:18:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: I think you should get everyone here to help you test it at this point.
[11:19:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I see an error on page load in IE6 in the gradebook example
[11:19:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> in Pager.js
[11:20:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> line 706
[11:21:24 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We have a gradebook example for the pager?
[11:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> hmmm... that error is happening in the example that doesn't use the renderer
[11:22:12 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/pager/basic/pager.html
[11:23:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What does the error say
[11:23:54 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah
[11:23:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I know what it says
[11:24:03 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> We just need to fix up the includes for that sample
[11:24:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I will do it now... although really I can just take that line out again
[11:24:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Do you want to make a JIRA for it, or shall I commit it under this general IE in Pager issue
[11:25:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> There is a CATT here
[11:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: we should probably have a new jira for htat
[11:25:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> that
[11:25:51 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'll make
[11:25:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: A new JIRA for the presence or absence of a CATT?
[11:26:15 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> YES!
[11:26:21 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> (tongue)
[11:27:16 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So far these assertions have had to ride on the back of other, less substantial JIRAs
[11:27:17 EDT(-0400)] * athena wonders if this is like a Schrodinger's ticket, or something
[11:29:09 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: the jira is FLUID-2400
[11:29:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: lol
[11:30:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
[11:32:33 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> OK, I have done that
[11:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> http://www.lardfork.com/archives/schrodinger.png
[11:38:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol!
[11:38:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you just made my day
[11:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: did you want to code review Bosmon's committ
[11:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sure
[11:39:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks
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[11:41:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> can I rebuild the nightly?
[11:41:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o?
[11:42:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: sure
[11:49:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: FLUID-2339 reviewed and commented on: +1
[11:49:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... thanks
[11:58:08 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Bosmon: seems I can consistently crash IE by using the sakai site setting example of the pager.
[11:58:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> IE 6 on XP
[11:58:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I just open the example
[11:59:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and then once it has loaded I click the last page, page 17 and page 16 fairly quickly
[11:59:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> IE crashes.
[11:59:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Is this what you are seeing?
[12:00:19 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> (sad)
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[14:23:51 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Clean-Up Parade' set by Justin_o on 2009-03-25 08:53:22 EDT(-0400)
[14:53:45 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> FLUID-2392 and (FLUID-2351/FLUID-2334/FLUID-1974) still need to be reviewed, if anyone has the time
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[16:58:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> OK
[16:59:03 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It is something to do with the page links
[16:59:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But in a strange and subtle way
[16:59:19 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> If I stop re-rendering them at all, the problem goes away
[17:00:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> No
[17:00:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> That is not right
[17:01:03 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I was so confused, I was testing in FF by mistake...
[17:11:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Is anyone there? (sad)
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[20:45:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is it possible to initialize the pager w/ a specified page index?
[21:58:30 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> x
[21:58:52 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> oops
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