fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-03-24

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[08:43:35 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> Hi all. I am doing usability work for Moodle for two years now, and have stumbled on your website a couple of times. You talk about usability work on Moodle on your site, so I wondered if there would be benefit of cooperation here. My work for next summer: http://docs.moodle.org/en/Development:Usability/Improve_Moodle_User_Experience_Consistency
[08:45:48 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> The thing is, I haven't really understood what are you actually doing in relation to Moodle, you don't seem to talk about it much.
[08:47:53 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> Your Design Handbook seems excellent, though.
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[09:00:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> pilpi, hi
[09:00:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> you were asking about our involvement with moodle
[09:01:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we were originally planning to work directly with moodle to incorporate Fluid components into moodle
[09:01:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> but that plan changed
[09:02:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the moodle community is participating in Fluid by using out UX Walkthrough protocols, and contributing feedback to the Fluid community
[09:03:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> our project manager, jessm, might be better able to discuss this, but she's actually in transit right now
[09:19:50 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> alright, thanks .
[09:19:57 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> I'll get back to this.
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[09:56:15 EDT(-0400)] <clown> Justin_o: just came across http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-565. Marked the latest as a dup.
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[10:03:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> clown: thanks... i'll change that one to be used on the bug parade instead
[10:03:43 EDT(-0400)] <clown> cool
[10:04:20 EDT(-0400)] <clown> fyi; looking over what needs to be done. should know soon if I have time. Note: currently it's assigned to colinclark
[10:04:35 EDT(-0400)] <clown> FLUID-565, that is.
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[10:05:07 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'll reassign to you and if you don't have time we can reassign to unassigned
[10:08:48 EDT(-0400)] <clown> cool. interesting that this was for 0.5...
[10:09:05 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> we're a little behind
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[11:31:39 EDT(-0400)] <clown> Justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-565 is resolved; needs review.
[11:31:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> clown: thanks
[11:32:04 EDT(-0400)] <clown> wlcm
[12:12:59 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> pilpi: ping re: Moodle
[12:31:53 EDT(-0400)] <pilpi> jessm, hi.
[13:43:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: FLUID-2378 looks good +1
[13:50:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, clown: FLUID-2376 reviewed and commented on - I recommend small fixes to the test file.
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[13:56:08 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac, Justin_o: I'm on it.
[13:59:20 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac: you mean just "ImageReorderer-test.html", right? (Just making sure there isn't another one.)
[14:04:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> clown - yes, that's where I saw it
[14:04:50 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac: thanks.
[14:06:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, clown: FLUID-565 reviewed and commented on - I found one lingering mention of activedescendent
[14:07:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> btw, clown: it's nice to have you back
[14:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac: it's nice to be back.
[14:10:53 EDT(-0400)] <clown> Justin_o, anastasiac: committed update for FLUID-2376 (more apt messages).
[14:13:23 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac wonders if clown is soon going to start thinking it's not so great to be back
[14:13:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> clown: is the attr name @aria-grab, or @aria-grabbed?
[14:13:50 EDT(-0400)] <clown> glarg!
[14:13:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> LOL
[14:14:00 EDT(-0400)] <clown> aria-grabbed
[14:14:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac>
[14:14:38 EDT(-0400)] <clown> doing too many things at once...
[14:18:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ecochran: regarding FLUID-2373, switch from using jAria to aria support built into ui.core
[14:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac, Justin_o: another attempt at getting those test strings correct (FLUID-2376). Could this be the last commit?
[14:19:05 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac: yes/
[14:19:07 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ?
[14:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the jARIA.js file is still present
[14:19:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> can it be removed now?
[14:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> hmm...
[14:19:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'd say if it can, then it should be
[14:20:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if it can't, then the JIRA shouldn't be considered resolved
[14:21:00 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac: actually, I made a mistake with that bug
[14:21:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I was thinking Uploader specific
[14:21:23 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> in the Uploader we've done this, but I can't say for all other components
[14:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so should probably be reopened, then?
[14:21:36 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> it's the problem with these "general" JIRAs
[14:21:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yes
[14:21:49 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> everyone needs to take a pass through their code
[14:22:07 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac: sorry about that
[14:22:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> np, nothing to be sorry about
[14:22:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> that's why I'm double-checking
[14:22:24 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> luckily it's a very quick fix
[14:23:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: FLUID-2376 has been re-reviewed and commented on: looks great now.
[14:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I've reopened FLUID-2373
[14:34:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> clown, did you see my comment on FLUID-565?
[14:40:56 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac: yes, I'm looking at it.
[14:41:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> great, thanks
[15:05:27 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac,. Justin_o : fixed that last active-descend[ae]nt as per the review (FLUID-565)
[15:05:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> clown, excellent
[15:06:34 EDT(-0400)] <clown> odd thing: that bit of code was not used by anyone – it never executed. Does that match what you know?
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[16:18:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> OK, everyone better do an update
[16:18:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> I have dealt with the global keyCode and jAria issues
[16:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> I think I caught all the tests and samples, but I may have lost some....
[16:19:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Also we have this "AccessibleMenuBar" sample that seems never to have been touched since before the Flood
[16:22:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: is FLUID-565 ready for testing or does it need to be re-review
[16:23:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, thanks for the ping
[16:23:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> just checked, and 565 is ready to go
[16:24:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> OK, I missed a few files - could everyone note that from now on, we have a hard requirement that ui.core.js is included before jquery.keyboard-a11y.js
[16:29:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmo1: check sample-code/inline-edit/announcements/announements.html - dependencies are in wrong order
[16:30:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> also sample-code/keyboard-a11y/checkboxes/CheckboxExample.html - missing ui.core.js
[16:31:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sample-code/reorderer/jquery-tabs/escalate/jquery-tabs.html is missing ui.core.js
[16:32:34 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> are these the files you've noticed?
[16:32:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmo1 ^
[16:33:11 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> No, but I just committed fixes for those - thanks
[16:33:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> also tests/fluid-tests/manual/multi-reorderers/multi.html
[16:34:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> tests/fluid-tests/manual/reorderer/dynamic-reorderer/index.html
[16:34:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> tests/fluid-tests/manual/reorderer/list/list.html
[16:34:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> glarg
[16:34:39 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Do you think you could take care of those?
[16:34:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> tests/fluid-tests/manual/reorderer/nes
[16:34:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac>
[16:34:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sure
[16:34:59 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Thanks
[16:35:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what's the JIRA number, again?
[16:35:29 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> FLUID-2299
[16:35:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> k, thanks
[16:46:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anyone mind if I rebuild?
[16:46:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I just committed the updates to FLUID-2299, with the order of dependencies
[16:46:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I think we've caught everything now
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[17:04:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do any of you all have any information about how much the number HTTP requests is likely to affect page download time?
[17:04:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i know it's a consistent recommendation to cut down on page requests
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[18:46:44 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: just updated FLUID-2355, so Colin says you can kick it off Bug Parade
[18:46:56 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Still working on fixing the FileQueueView tests
[18:47:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: thanks ... i've removed FLUID-2355 from the bug parade...
[18:47:22 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> thz
[18:47:25 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks for looking at the unit tests.. those are pretty important
[18:55:21 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: fixed the FileQueueView test
[18:55:33 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> had to do with the HTML changes, which threw me
[18:55:38 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> oh...
[18:55:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> nice work though
[18:55:49 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> points to the fact that some tests may fail when we change selectors this week
[18:56:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> good point, we'll have to keep an eye open for that... it probably should be part of the verification process
[18:56:24 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yep
[18:56:38 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm going to be heading home soon, it looks like we are going to be finishing up some code reviews in the morning...
[18:57:04 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yep
[18:57:38 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: some of those "connected" Uploader bugs can be closed now... I know you have other fish to fry but I thought that I'd remind you
[18:58:09 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> now that 2379 is reviewed and closed
[18:58:26 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks.. I'll leave myself a note and close those off tomorrow morning... thanks for the reminder
[18:58:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> np
[18:58:59 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I might walk through JIRA and see if there are any other bugs that are resolved as a result of recent changes
[18:59:22 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> oh that would be really good...
[18:59:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ecochran: talk to you tomorrow
[19:00:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Justin_o: yes, oh king
[19:00:15 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o>
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