fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-03-27

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[08:34:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm looking for some help with the renderer-based pager
[08:35:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i don't know if anyone's around (maybe Bosmon?) that would know how to refresh the data model
[08:36:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> athena: hello, I'm trying to see if Bosmon is around, not sure if he is though
[08:36:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks (smile)
[08:36:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i figured he might not be
[08:37:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm guessing he's maybe the person to talk to? i wasn't really sure
[08:37:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> probably the best, he's been doing most of the work on that.
[08:38:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[08:38:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> when i see things like rsf:id i do think of him (smile)
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[09:07:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac -have a moment?
[09:07:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, good morning (smile)
[09:07:56 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000: in images under fss there are a couple of images and then in the themes directory there are more
[09:08:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im having trouble finding the fss images
[09:08:16 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac launches Aptana so she can have a look
[09:08:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i just updated around 10 mins ago, and the folders are empy here
[09:08:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, it's entirely possible I put them in the wrong place (smile)
[09:09:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i did a search on the entire project....no png files
[09:10:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> there are lots of png files in the themes folder - what specific files are you looking for that you can't find?
[09:10:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I noticed the download of the update was a lighter than expected - now I realize its b/c I didnt pull any images down..
[09:11:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> you did an update, and the images didn't come with it??
[09:11:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> right
[09:11:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> all empty
[09:11:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> what I get is
[09:11:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> framework/fss/css/FSS_images .... nothing deeper
[09:11:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> oh wait
[09:11:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the folder is not called FSS_images - that shouldn't exist
[09:11:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I see what happened
[09:11:55 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's called images
[09:12:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fss/images
[09:12:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's beside css, not inside it
[09:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> right right - but I still have that folder for some reason
[09:12:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> hmm
[09:12:19 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> can I delete it?
[09:12:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah, yes
[09:12:23 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> my mistake
[09:12:26 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[09:12:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> part of a 3-step process, and I forgot the last step
[09:12:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> feel free to delete it!
[09:12:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (tongue) - can I delete it?
[09:12:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> awesome
[09:12:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thanks for catching that
[09:13:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sorry for the confusion!
[09:13:03 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> also, something a little weirder
[09:13:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> my new trunk has kept the fluid components folder, but it has been de-listed
[09:13:55 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's possible you had changes?
[09:14:01 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so its all empty and just sitting there, and its not part of svn anymore - do you know why the uupdate just didnt delete it?
[09:14:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> you might want to try a clean checkout to work on
[09:14:09 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sounds good
[09:15:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> wow, that's MUCH better!
[09:16:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I just started from scratch, and everything is good
[09:25:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: can I use fluid-2401 as my ticket when saving path updates in the css files?
[09:26:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> or are there tickets for this different work
[09:26:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, fj4000 (and Justin_o): 2401 is the ticket to file these path changes under
[09:26:20 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o: ^ too
[09:26:24 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[09:26:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thnx
[09:26:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
[09:28:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: do you see a sample-code folder under webapp ?
[09:28:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, that's a throwback because I didn't know what to do with one of its subfolders
[09:28:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it will be deleted
[09:28:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> don't use it
[09:28:57 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> cool, ok
[09:29:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ignore it
[09:29:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's a figment of your imagination
[09:29:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what folder?
[09:29:09 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (tongue) ignore what?
[09:31:11 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 is wondering if the sakai demos should be in separate folders.....
[09:35:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, I talked to colinclark and michelled about that last night
[09:35:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its ok as is?
[09:35:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the feeling was to include them in the single folder, but rename them to give an indication of the demo
[09:36:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so announcements is renamed inline-edit-announcements
[09:36:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> etc
[09:36:21 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i was thinking each should be in a sub folder within sakai....but I see
[09:36:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> but if that seems weird to you, or confusing, now's the time to say so!
[09:36:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I think its going to get difficult to manage
[09:36:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> esp. the deeper we integrate with partners
[09:36:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> on that note, actually, we should probably ask for feedback on this structure from someone a bit less familiar with it, say laurelw
[09:36:58 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the more content we'll have there
[09:37:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> very true
[09:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, that's a good point, about becoming more difficult to manage with more integrations...
[09:37:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> hm...
[09:37:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes - the sakai demo will only grow with the next iteration
[09:37:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> since their css files tripled I think
[09:38:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> wow
[09:38:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes - thats what happens when you stop using the <font> tag (tongue)
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[09:56:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: just wondering - what do you think of putting the renderer in core? I know its not critical to core now, but it seems like its becoming more and more important
[09:56:55 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so fast xml pull and the like would be in the core folder
[09:58:11 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: any objection for me merging the uploader unit tests / manual tests with the rest of the fluid ones...
[09:59:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, personally, I think that would be fine
[10:00:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... i'm wondering now if it needs more restructuring that just that... i.e. a folder for unit test folder instead of just having them in the fluid-test directory....
[10:01:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> hm... fj4000, that's a good question...
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[10:01:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's a bigger question, not my call alone
[10:01:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I told michelled verbally about it just now
[10:01:51 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> what does she think?
[10:01:54 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> g'morning
[10:02:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> one thing that's different between 'core' and 'renderer' is that some components will work fine with just code
[10:02:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> core
[10:02:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so I'm wondering if keeping the separate would actually be useful
[10:02:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> perhaps I
[10:02:47 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm thinking about this will too much build script on my mind
[10:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Colin and I talked yesterday evening about the build scripts and we broke up dependencies by module
[10:03:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled, keeping the build scripts in mind is important
[10:03:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so I'm thinking that a 'core' and a 'renderer' module are actually useful
[10:03:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i see
[10:05:53 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 is thinking this new structure rocks!
[10:06:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Just a reminder to everyone (Justin_o, fj4000, michelled) to update often, especially before committing
[10:06:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> are we allowed to commit anything?
[10:07:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> fj4000: I guess we are only working on clean up parade stuff
[10:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so path cleanups are ok?
[10:07:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: commits are restricted to updating paths related to the restructuring
[10:07:48 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> they are perfect (smile)
[10:07:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> cool
[10:08:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> path updates should be committed against FLUID-2401
[10:08:08 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> just finished the ui options sakai demo
[10:08:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> phew
[10:08:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> that was a biggy
[10:08:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anyone have time to chat about restructuring the "test" directory
[10:08:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw has kindly agreed to 'user test' our new structure
[10:08:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw, one caveat:
[10:09:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> you will see a "sample-code" folder still in existence.
[10:09:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's not really there - it's just a figment of your imagination
[10:09:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> move along, nothing to see here...
[10:09:47 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> ok
[10:10:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> also, the tests folder might still be restructured, so don't worry about it yet
[10:10:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and thanks!
[10:10:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so fj4000, are you finished with the css files, and you've moved on to some of the examples?
[10:10:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[10:10:56 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> almost 100%
[10:11:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I need to review it again in Firebug's network console to be sure
[10:11:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, let's keep this channel up-to-date with which examples, etc. people are working on
[10:11:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> good idea
[10:11:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so we don't duplicate effort
[10:11:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im still working on ui Options in sakai
[10:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'll start on the renderer stand-alone demos
[10:13:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, Justin_o, michelled:
[10:14:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm about to commit a change to the name of jquery-1.3.2.js
[10:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sorry, I should have done it last night
[10:14:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we decided to rename it jquery.js
[10:14:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so that when we update, we don't have to touch every file
[10:14:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> smart
[10:15:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok - done
[10:16:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> do an update, everyone!
[10:17:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thanks
[10:17:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> michelled: just fyi, im updating ui options + saka
[10:17:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sakai
[10:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: am I renaming all the fss css files to start with fss ?
[10:20:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh - you mean instead of fluid.*?
[10:20:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> we talked briefly about it
[10:20:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i dont remember the decision
[10:21:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled remembers that yes, we did make this decision
[10:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[10:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> sorry I missed that
[10:21:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> will do
[10:34:13 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o, anastasiac, michelled: im going to change all the FSS files now to start with fss instead of fluid
[10:34:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> cool, thanks fj4000
[10:34:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thanks.. i'll keep that in mind
[10:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> after that, I will commit what I have for teh sakai ui options demo
[10:37:30 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok done. Pls update!
[10:39:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> pls note: those were just the core FSS file.... component specific chages werent made
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[10:42:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, the renderer standalone samples are fully updated and functional now
[10:42:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm going to move on to the standalone reorderer demos
[10:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> UI Options stand alone and UI Options in Sakai are done
[10:56:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> onto the fss demo files
[10:59:32 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o, anastasiac: shouldnt the fss demo files be in the standalone-demos folder?
[10:59:46 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac checks
[10:59:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> not the frameowork fss folder?
[11:00:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh - good question
[11:01:06 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> do you think I can I move them?
[11:01:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we're just having a verbal communication about this...
[11:03:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: so far I'm not having a hard time finding things, but maybe I need some sample tasks - what would you like me to find?
[11:04:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> renderer examples
[11:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> you want to see the renderer in action
[11:04:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw ^
[11:05:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so, did you come to a concensus?
[11:05:18 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: /fluid-components/src/webapp/standalone-demos/renderer
[11:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> ?
[11:05:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: no (smile)
[11:05:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I think colinclark is going to jump in the channel as soon as he finds his power supply
[11:05:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and we'll continue the discussion
[11:06:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> do you want to do it on skype?
[11:06:02 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[11:06:16 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> maybe skype, or breeze
[11:06:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I just think they are like any other demo we have
[11:06:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> we put them in the demos folder...not the folder of the component
[11:06:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw gets a gold star (smile)
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[11:06:56 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> everyone: I'm going to start restructuring the test folder... any last objections
[11:06:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> actually, I guess we get the gold star
[11:07:04 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: more tests?
[11:07:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> for making things find-able (smile)
[11:07:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> how about the FSS? back up to when you were adding it to the site
[11:07:21 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> this is really so much more readable
[11:07:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what were you looking for then?
[11:07:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> could you find it now?
[11:07:54 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> /fluid-components/src/webapp/framework/fss
[11:07:55 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000 - what's more readable?
[11:08:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: everything (smile)
[11:08:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw: if you were looking for examples that use the FSS, where might you think they'd be, in this structure?
[11:08:49 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark, anastasiac: what was the convention we were going with for directories that use names with multiple words.... e.g. componentTests or component-tests or component tests
[11:09:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> colinclark: could you, I, anastasiac and whomever else wants in discuss some structure questions?
[11:09:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its for the fss demos
[11:09:17 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: standalone demos I think
[11:09:24 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> that's where I would look
[11:10:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> fj4000: I'm here, fire away.
[11:10:42 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: I would assume demo is demo - fss or not
[11:10:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I think they should go in the standalone demos folder
[11:10:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw, that's good info for the discussion we were just having
[11:11:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> not in the fss folder where they are now
[11:12:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, laurelw: if you didn't see a folder called standalone-demos/fss, but did see standalone-demos/functional-examples...
[11:12:33 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> no idea what functional examples are
[11:12:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> eaxctly
[11:12:44 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> never have had an idea about that!
[11:12:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its not clear language
[11:13:04 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> always wondered what the difference was on the demo page when I created it.
[11:13:16 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we originally called it "springboards"
[11:13:19 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> I ended up removing the terminology and just listing all the demos together
[11:13:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what would that mean to you, laurelw?
[11:13:32 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> nothing much either
[11:13:35 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[11:13:46 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> not unless I'd read the docs already and I knew that was the term I was looking for
[11:14:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> maybe we should call the folder "steal-these-demos"
[11:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> if I started with the code or on a demo page with that term I'd be not sure
[11:14:13 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> that sounds familiar
[11:14:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> is what we have there now better, with standalone-demo and integration-demo, laurelw ?
[11:14:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> or "cut-and-paste-this-stuff"
[11:14:20 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> "steal-this-code"
[11:14:36 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> I like "standalone
[11:15:10 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> colinclark - any objections to my moving fss demo files into standalone-demos folder?
[11:15:26 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> because it implies that I can grab the demo and it will work
[11:15:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it probably wouldn't hurt to put a readme into each folder...
[11:15:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, we're not sure whether or not the fss demos are 'springboards'
[11:15:50 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> oooh - like that - more docs!
[11:15:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> to be combined with the other springboards
[11:16:03 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> why arent they?
[11:16:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> which were incorrectly put into their component's html folder
[11:16:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, they are springboards
[11:16:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> 0_o
[11:17:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the question is whether or not to group all of the springboards together
[11:17:14 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> oh
[11:17:20 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: my personal feeling is no
[11:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> should we have standalone-demos/functional-examples/component-name ?
[11:17:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> where fss is a component name, reorderer, etc
[11:17:41 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> maybe we should identify the diff between a springboard and the html folders?
[11:17:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> since the two are not the same
[11:17:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the html folder is for templates
[11:18:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the springboards should NOT have been put there
[11:18:04 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> html_templates
[11:18:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> that was my mistake, sorry
[11:18:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw, yes - or even just 'templates'
[11:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> could we just make a "demo" folder inside each component for this stuff?
[11:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it would serve as the "springboard" files
[11:19:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, I think we want to keep demos separate from the source, for build purposes, at least
[11:19:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we have a demos folder
[11:19:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it makes sense to put demos there (smile)
[11:19:37 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so......then lets put them there (tongue)
[11:19:37 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: rather than functional_example maybe something like basic_example?
[11:20:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so, I think we're in agreement that the formerly-called-springboards (including fss) should go somewhere in the standalone-demos folder
[11:20:09 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yup!
[11:20:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the question now is how to structure them and what to call them
[11:20:18 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> yes
[11:20:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, Justin_o, michelled: ^
[11:20:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw: basic-examples might be good...
[11:20:52 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: I kinda assumed the demo would be functional
[11:20:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[11:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> so calling it that didn't mean anything
[11:21:07 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark is catching up, sorry.
[11:21:22 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> "start here"
[11:22:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> starting-points
[11:22:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> start-here
[11:22:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> startHere
[11:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> hm...
[11:22:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> strthr
[11:22:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[11:22:31 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it seems michelled had a completely different interpretation of integration-demo and standalone-demo than I did
[11:22:43 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: I still like basic_example -> I think people would understand that
[11:22:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I thought the standalone-demos were the functional-demos
[11:23:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and the integration ones were everything else
[11:23:07 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> anastasiac: it also has the advantage that it might come out high on the alphabetical listing
[11:23:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> while I though integration meant inside sakai, uportal, etc
[11:23:16 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and standalone meant not
[11:23:17 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: question while you are catching up, for the licences in the tests folder... i'm creating a seperate licence directory... can they all just go in there.. or do they need to be in a sub directory in licences to specify what they are licences for... this sort of generalises to the rest of our licenses too
[11:23:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> laurelw, good point
[11:23:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I think licenses have to be co-located with their code.
[11:23:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So I was actually thinking that we'd have to move them around as part of the build.
[11:23:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If that makes sense.
[11:24:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, what about http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1943 ?
[11:24:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Lemme check our license policy, but if I remember, we always put licenses alongside the code it applies to.
[11:24:21 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: not sure what you mean by co-located
[11:24:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Yep, that's my point.
[11:24:43 EDT(-0400)] <laurelw> michelled, anastasiac: I thought integration meant "into" something too, like in sakai, etc.
[11:25:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "License files should be stored in a separate directory in the final build..."
[11:25:22 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I'm just misunderstanding
[11:25:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> misunderestimating?
[11:25:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[11:25:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: From our licensing page in the wiki:
[11:26:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Note that it is also possible to override the Fluid LICENSE file by including an alternate LICENSE file in a subdirectory. For example, this could be used for properly licensing a third party toolkit if it is included in the Fluid repository."
[11:26:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Licensing
[11:33:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, here's the conclusion on the "springboards":
[11:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so I just fixed the fss demos as they are right now. Hopefully we can put demos where they belong
[11:33:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> standalone-demos/starting-points/reorderer/html (and js and css, etc. as needed)
[11:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> standalone-demos/starting-points/fss/css...
[11:34:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> etc
[11:34:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: ^
[11:34:23 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[11:34:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> do you want to start by creating standalone-demos/starting-points/fss and working on that?
[11:34:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[11:34:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I can move the other springboards over
[11:34:54 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm just finishing up the reorderer demos
[11:39:04 EDT(-0400)] * mtheoryx83 (n=mtheoryx@c-98-228-108-233.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #fluid-work
[11:43:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000:
[11:43:07 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I just did an update
[11:43:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok, so did I
[11:43:22 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the FSS html files should be in an html folder inside fss
[11:43:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[11:43:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thats what I did in my update.....strange
[11:43:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> maybe thats why I got an error
[11:43:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (tongue)
[11:43:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> gotta run
[11:43:55 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 goes to pick up son
[11:57:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I've moved the starting-points-formerly-known-as-springboards into their new home under standalone-demos
[11:58:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm going to work on the pager standalone-demos now
[12:13:37 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Hi athena
[12:13:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> heya
[12:13:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> There is currently no explicit API for refreshing the model for the pager
[12:13:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[12:13:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is there some other option?
[12:14:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But it is exposed directly in the component, so, mainly, you can just change it
[12:14:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It sits there at that.options.dataModel
[12:14:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena> from the documentation i somewhat wondered if there was existing functionality for writing filters for the data
[12:14:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm
[12:14:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i tried assigning the new data to that.options.dataModel
[12:14:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> To trigger a refresh of the view, you can fire the onModelChange event
[12:14:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i wasn't sure how to tell the pager to re-render itself
[12:14:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> excellent
[12:14:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i was hoping there might be something like that
[12:15:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm not quite sure how to do that - i just fire the event? does it need any parameters passed in?
[12:16:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It needs to be given the pager's "model"
[12:16:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Which in this case you are not changing
[12:16:46 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> That is, its model, rather than the data model
[12:16:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So, a call like this should be sufficient:
[12:17:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> that.events.onModelChange.fire(that.model, that.model)
[12:18:35 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> actually, better make that that.events.onModelChange.fire(that.model, that.model, that) for good measure
[12:18:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> THE CATT!
[12:19:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> excellent, i'll try that
[12:19:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thank you (smile)
[12:19:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> No worries
[12:19:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You were up dangerously early today...
[12:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the renderer-based stuff really is cool, by the way
[12:19:47 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I am glad you like it
[12:19:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's like RSF but without the sakai!
[12:19:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> hah
[12:19:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> There was never any Sakai in RSF (tongue)
[12:20:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (wink)
[12:20:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes
[12:20:16 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> For our next trick, we will try porting it to Ruby, PHP or Python
[12:20:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but that was my initial exposure to RSF
[12:20:19 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Not sure which yet....
[12:20:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> taking over the world, one language at a time
[12:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i don' think i was up too early
[12:20:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> maybe up too late
[12:20:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yesterday up too early
[12:20:47 EDT(-0400)] * athena loses track
[12:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Wasn't your message at something like 7am for you?
[12:21:04 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I'm glad you lost your 7, btw
[12:21:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> At least I think I am....
[12:21:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh, i think it was more like 8 or 9
[12:21:57 EDT(-0400)] * athena is on EDT
[12:22:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and yes, i thought of you when i ditched the number
[12:22:33 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, of course, you guys are only at -4 for a while
[12:23:57 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[12:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you don't switch over to daylight savings for a while yet, right?
[12:24:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I think it may be this weekend
[12:25:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[12:25:19 EDT(-0400)] * athena hates the switching
[12:25:47 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It should be abolished, yes
[12:25:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It is entirely pointless....
[12:26:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I've updated the keyboard-a11y demos and the pager demos.
[12:26:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm moving on to the integration-demos
[12:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'll start with the bspace stuff
[12:27:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> one thing that arizona got right, Bosmon (smile)
[12:29:18 EDT(-0400)] * michelled hates the switching too
[12:29:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I've updated the uploader template
[12:29:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and the server version almost works
[12:29:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm getting error when I try to do the uploade
[12:29:58 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> but the uploader is showing now and I can select files to uploade
[12:30:51 EDT(-0400)] * michelled is wondering why she is spelling upload with an 'e'
[12:37:47 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac thinks it's because michelled's fingers are trying to type "uploader"
[12:38:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the bspace integration demo is updated now
[12:38:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> moving on to uportal
[12:42:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> Bosmon: not having much success, it looks like
[12:43:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> does something like this look reasonable?
[12:43:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> pager.options.dataModel = searchChannels();
[12:43:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> pager.events.onModelChange.fire(pager.model, pager.model, pager);
[12:46:01 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark thinks it's awesome that athena is working with Pager.
[12:46:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think it's awesome that the pager works so well
[12:46:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> really close to having it hooked up to do the channel-picking display for the new portlet admin portlet
[12:50:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yeah, that looks generally fine
[12:50:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> To be a bit more secure, I would replace the update with this:
[12:50:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> fluid.clear(pager.options.dataModel);
[12:50:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> fluid.copyModel(pager.options.dataModel, searchChannels());
[12:51:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> All of this will be made a bit more formal and clear in the next release....
[12:51:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm
[12:51:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's not actually working (smile)
[12:51:23 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I should now be writing docs on the DARapplier, but I am mainly playing with the CATT
[12:51:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> will try it w/ the clear
[12:52:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What happens when you do that, nothing?
[12:52:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yep
[12:52:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, I think you will need the "clear" method
[12:53:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Since the reference to the model object is bound early
[12:53:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm
[12:53:31 EDT(-0400)] <athena> copyModel doesn't seem to exist as a function
[12:53:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is this post-0.8 stuff?
[12:53:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> sorry, fluid.model.copyModel
[12:53:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, you there
[12:53:49 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ?
[12:53:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> lol
[12:53:56 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i was just typing your name
[12:54:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> talk about timing
[12:54:03 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thats crazy
[12:54:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> my fingertips were tingling
[12:54:13 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so was my spidey sense
[12:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i was going to ask you whats left to do
[12:54:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000: thats the second reference to spidey senses that I've heard today
[12:54:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I need to rename the top-level "fluid-components" to "fluid-infusion" but I don't want to do that while you have any local changes
[12:54:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, you too
[12:54:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> nope, just updated
[12:54:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> can I have 5 minutes of total freeze, do to that?
[12:54:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> all is perfect and silent over here
[12:54:57 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yupper
[12:55:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> then, you'll need a fresh checkout
[12:55:05 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[12:55:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok Bosmon
[12:55:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so, that at least has an effect
[12:55:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> cool
[12:55:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What effect is it? (tongue)
[12:55:35 EDT(-0400)] <athena> however
[12:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[12:55:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[12:55:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so it shows all the right data
[12:56:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but instead of the extra rows disappearing, they get filled in w/ default data
[12:56:11 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ah!
[12:56:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You have changed the size
[12:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> indeed
[12:56:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ok
[12:56:36 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, once I'm done, we need the templates updated, in side the component's individual html folders
[12:56:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> can i just update that number in the model?
[12:56:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[12:56:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I will start once you give the word
[12:56:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Well, it means that there really is a reason for firing the model update in the 2nd line
[12:57:39 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, so what you should do is the following:
[12:58:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> var newModel = fluid.copy(pager.model);
[12:58:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> newModel.totalRange = (whatever your new size is)
[12:58:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Then, you can change your final line to :
[12:58:57 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Just to let everyone know that I have just renamed fluid-components into fluid-infusion
[12:59:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> you will need to do a clean checkout from svn
[12:59:24 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000, bosmon, et al. ^
[12:59:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> that.events.onModelChange.fire(newModel, that.model, that)
[12:59:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, excellent
[12:59:40 EDT(-0400)] * athena goes to try
[13:00:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It looks like this experience is awesome for showing us a few places our API can be expanded upon for 1.1.
[13:03:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o anastasiac michelled: standup?
[13:05:56 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000: sorry.. we are skipping standup
[13:06:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> everyone?
[13:06:16 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> the toronto people
[13:06:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we're going to grab lunch
[13:06:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and will do an informal standup after that
[13:06:25 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> and the berkeley people have a holiday
[13:06:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we can ping you
[13:06:26 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[13:06:32 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> tis ok
[13:06:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> we're done (smile)
[13:07:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> Bosmon: is the range just supposed to be the size of the new model?
[13:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o: is the big chnage done?
[13:08:22 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> or I should rather ask anastasiac : ^
[13:08:47 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> it is.
[13:08:54 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> you will need to do a clean checkout
[13:09:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> athena: Yes, that's right
[13:09:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> pageTree[pageTree.length - 1] is undefined
[13:09:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> thanks!
[13:09:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> getting that error
[13:09:36 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000: no problem... we're taking off now... so i'll catch up later
[13:09:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> !
[13:10:30 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Pesky users
[13:10:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ooh my mistake
[13:11:54 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ok
[13:12:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I guess we will have to hack this a bit for now
[13:12:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I hadn't specifically had this use case in mind at the time (tongue)
[13:13:19 EDT(-0400)]

<Bosmon> Instead of calling "onModelChange", instead, call initiatePageChange(

Unknown macro: {relativePage}

)


[13:13:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> just to make sure i haven't lost track of something, does this look right? http://fluid.pastebin.com/m4678ade0
[13:13:38 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> and instead of doing all that model copying stuff, simply update the totalRange value in place
[13:14:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, that generally looks good
[13:14:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok - that just sets all the data to the defaults (the copied bit)
[13:15:17 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Which copied bit?
[13:15:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> what do i call initiatePageChange on?
[13:15:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> On the events again
[13:15:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So, make it like this:
[13:16:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm.
[13:16:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> "pager.events.initiatePageChange is not a function"
[13:16:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> var newChannels = searchChannels();
[13:16:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> up.fluid.clear(pager.options.dataModel);
[13:16:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> up.fluid.model.copyModel(pager.options.dataModel, newChannels);
[13:16:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> and then
[13:16:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> pager.model.totalRange = newChannels.length;
[13:17:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> pager.events.initiatePageChange.fire({relativePage: 0]);
[13:17:15 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Sorry, it is an event, so you will need to "fire" it
[13:17:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh, right! thanks
[13:17:56 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I think there is a good chance this will work now
[13:18:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But we will certainly put in a better API for 1.1 (tongue)
[13:18:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm, now just nothing happens
[13:18:17 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I had started to convert the Pager over to use the DARApplier, but realised there wasn't really time
[13:18:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, i'm working with 0.8
[13:18:32 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> OK
[13:18:41 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I don't think there were any real changed for 1.0
[13:18:47 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah ok
[13:18:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> pastie what you have now?
[13:19:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> http://fluid.pastebin.com/m6e39777c
[13:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Hmm
[13:20:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Nothing happens at all?
[13:20:22 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Oh, I see
[13:20:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, nothing happens
[13:21:26 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, this is most disagreeble
[13:21:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Give it a final kick with pager.events.onModelChange(pager.model, pager.model, pager)
[13:21:59 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Oh wait....
[13:22:39 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Give me a sec
[13:23:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i got it!
[13:23:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i was missing a piece or two before
[13:24:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> here we go: http://fluid.pastebin.com/m564e38ec
[13:24:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so cool!
[13:24:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Does it go now?
[13:24:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes!!
[13:24:36 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thank you so much (smile)
[13:24:41 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, I am glad
[13:24:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i had accidentally lost the copyModel statement before, i think
[13:24:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks so much for your help
[13:24:54 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Sorry this thing is a bit raw
[13:25:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no, it's ok
[13:25:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i just appreciate the pointers
[13:25:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It is hard to guess what people will want to do first (tongue)
[13:25:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm sure documentation and such will catch up eventually
[13:25:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> haha
[13:25:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes
[13:25:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This is an essential maturing process for a component
[13:25:26 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> That is, giving it to a user (tongue)
[13:25:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i tried one other thing that seemed to break it
[13:25:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> WHat was that?
[13:25:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i see i can do things in the columnDefs like target: editUrl.replace("PORTLETID", '${"${*.id}"}')
[13:26:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Whoa
[13:26:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes.... I guess you can
[13:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but i wanted to set the text of a simple table cell to something like channelTypes[${*.typeId}], which didn't in fact work
[13:26:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes, it can't find stuff inside expressions (tongue)
[13:26:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> aw
[13:26:46 EDT(-0400)] * athena looks sad
[13:26:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I mean, the expression has already been evaluated, by the time it hits the renderer
[13:27:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i just ran through the options and set the .type property, which worked fine
[13:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It isn't complete magic.... (tongue)
[13:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but . . .
[13:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
[13:27:22 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You can consult the authors of that excellent TV show, "LOST"
[13:27:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> does this stuff work for not-table lists?
[13:27:30 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> If you would like options that can travel backwards in time (tongue)
[13:27:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[13:27:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What do you mean?
[13:27:58 EDT(-0400)] * athena fires up the TARDIS
[13:28:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, if i want to have a renderer-powered pager that's a list, or something else
[13:28:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> If you need super-dynamic stuff like that, you can set the "components" member of the columnDef to a function
[13:28:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i wasn't sure how that intersected with things like "columnDefs", which would seem maybe to not apply
[13:28:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[13:28:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> That function is called with the arguments (row, index) and can be used to make completely dynamic bits of tree
[13:28:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> interesting
[13:29:04 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> row is the entire row of your data model that is for that cell's row
[13:29:11 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> and index is its row index number
[13:29:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, excellent
[13:29:43 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Although this does remind me to implement "resolver" support for the renderer
[13:29:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This was something we had in RSF Server, that would let you write this statically again
[13:31:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Nobody really used them...
[13:31:18 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah
[13:31:19 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I mean, we had the "IDDefunnellingReshaper"
[13:31:22 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Which was completely awesome
[13:31:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> But it had 0 users...
[13:31:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
[13:32:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> shoot
[13:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ?
[13:32:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> perhaps this is not entirely working after all
[13:32:54 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> what happened
[13:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> didn't change the length after all
[13:33:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so back to the situation where all the data is changed properly, but default data falling off the end
[13:33:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Oh, yes
[13:33:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Well if it is like your last pastie, you are not changing the length
[13:34:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You need to get rid of the "newModel" business, and just go back to pager.model.totalLength = newChannels.length;
[13:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> oh!
[13:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[13:35:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hm, same behavior
[13:35:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do i need to be setting the range as well?
[13:35:30 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> pastie again (tongue)
[13:35:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Sorry, I meant totalRange
[13:35:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah (smile)
[13:36:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok, improvement!
[13:36:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it looks like the header bar needs to be updated as well
[13:36:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> everything else looks right though - just need the number of links to be update
[13:37:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ok
[13:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Which piece isn't updating, exactly?
[13:37:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> The bit that says "Page n of nn"?
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[13:37:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> more or less
[13:38:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i see links for pages 1 - 7
[13:38:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Oh I see
[13:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> even though there's really only one page now
[13:38:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ah, I see
[13:38:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is there an event for that as well?
[13:39:14 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I'm sorry about this (sad)
[13:39:23 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You will need to cut and paste a bit of code, I'm afraid
[13:39:28 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I really hadn't thought about this case at all
[13:39:32 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no i just feel bad for sucking up all your time (smile)
[13:39:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> It is fine
[13:39:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> interesting - if i click on a valid link, it refreshes the number of links
[13:39:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You are currently only taking time away from THE CATT
[13:39:51 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes
[13:40:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> what is THE CATT, btw?
[13:40:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is this the furry kind?
[13:41:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This is a form of THE CATT
[13:41:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> http://www.flickr.com/photos/8129850@N02/3306745833/sizes/l/
[13:41:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> function computePageCount(model) {
[13:41:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> model.pageCount = Math.max(1, Math.floor((model.totalRange - 1)/ model.pageSize) + 1);
[13:41:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> }
[13:41:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> aw, so cute (smile)
[13:41:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> So, if you can grab this function
[13:41:46 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> And put it somewhere suitable (tongue)
[13:42:00 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sure
[13:42:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Then we can go back to the earlier, "more reasonable" version of firing the event
[13:42:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> The one with "newModel"
[13:42:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> so, i) copy the existing model, ii) update totalRange, iii) call this function on the model, iv) fire onModelChange
[13:43:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sure
[13:47:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> interesitng.
[13:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so it works
[13:47:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> although when i click on a page link, it goes back to having 7 links
[13:48:04 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes
[13:48:11 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You need to finally update the model at the end
[13:48:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> pastie what you have, and I will supply the missing lines
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[13:48:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> http://fluid.pastebin.com/m6b302935
[13:49:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes
[13:50:08 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Ad the end, say, up.fluid.model.copyModel(pager.model, newModel)
[13:50:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> after the event call?
[13:50:44 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> yes
[13:50:51 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I promise, in 1.1, all this will be just one line (tongue)
[13:51:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hey! i think that does it
[13:51:21 EDT(-0400)] * athena sounds trumpets
[13:51:22 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> (smile)
[13:51:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> da da da da
[13:51:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thank you so much!
[13:51:47 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> slash, slash
[13:51:52 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> bite bite
[13:52:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> this is what we've been working on, by the way: http://qwertied.com/portletadmin.png
[13:52:23 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> awesome
[13:52:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: looks nice
[13:52:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hopefully gary will make it shiny (smile)
[13:52:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Speaking of slash, slash...
[13:52:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sirius slashed me last night
[13:52:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This whole new cat owner thing is complicated.
[13:52:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> gosh!
[13:53:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> aw (sad)
[13:53:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What were you doing with him?
[13:53:14 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> As a CATT
[13:53:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Excessively loving him, apparently.
[13:53:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[13:53:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Petting him.
[13:53:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But Darcie had tried to brush him immediately before, and he was not amused.
[13:53:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ah
[13:53:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Does he give off CATT ELECTTRICITY if you do that?
[13:54:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Well, sometimes he seems to like it.
[13:54:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Mostly he just gives off cat hair.
[13:54:33 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ha
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[14:14:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Just fyi to everyone: in case I appear to be on and then offline spontaneously, im having some disturbing computer trouble
[14:14:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> but im trying to stablize it all
[14:16:05 EDT(-0400)] <clown> anastasiac: yummmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!
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[14:26:05 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> fj4000, Bosmon et al. I'm going to be changing a high level directory that will require you to get a clean checkout. This will be done at 3pm, so please make sure that you have all your commits in by then.
[14:26:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[14:28:34 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, what are you working on now?
[14:28:53 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> trying to keep my computer working, actually
[14:29:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> but other than that - the components html files (tongue)
[14:29:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok. I'll look at the starting-points files
[14:30:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: was there a decision on where in the tests to put 'escalated' stuff?
[14:30:45 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> there is a folder in the tests directory
[14:30:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> called "escalated-tests"
[14:30:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> right, I should have checked first :0(
[14:31:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
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[14:45:25 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: is fss.reset.css optional?
[14:45:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it is
[14:46:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so removing it shouldn't really change the appearance of a file much?
[14:46:08 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it might
[14:46:10 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[14:46:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> but not too much?
[14:46:22 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> should the font face change?
[14:46:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and borders disappear?
[14:46:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[14:46:33 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ?? really?
[14:47:05 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the font is set to a default, and I believe there is some border data (like border collapsing)
[14:47:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> wow. I would not have expected that
[14:47:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it depends on heavily the page relies on it....which normally wouldnt be that much
[14:48:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm working on the Pager starting-point
[14:48:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I accidentally removed the use of reset
[14:48:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> oh
[14:48:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> and the visual difference was significant
[14:48:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> didn't commit
[14:48:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> can I see it?
[14:48:32 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac, michelled: do you have any recommendations for a naming scheme for the manual test pages... i'm assuming they will be in the same directory as the unit tests
[14:48:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> give me a sec to commit, then you can update, and try removing it yourself
[14:48:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[14:49:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, I've committed
[14:49:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[14:49:53 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> an example of a manual test name is simple-progress.html
[14:49:56 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> maybe descriptive names without the work 'test' in it for the html? SimpleProgress.html with a matching js file SimpleProgress.js
[14:49:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if you look at Pager.html, and then try removing the reset file and reloading, you'll see what I mean
[14:50:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> another is simplescroller.html
[14:50:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> is that too ambiguous?
[14:50:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> so test refers to unit tests, no test refers to a manual test
[14:51:02 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ya
[14:51:07 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac i dont see any reset file here
[14:51:10 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> just pager.css
[14:51:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> in the standalone demos?
[14:51:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> be we should find out what others think - I'm not good at naming (tongue)
[14:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> j4000: standalone-demos/starting-points/pager/html
[14:52:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[14:52:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark, fj4000, anastasiac, Bosmon, others: any thoughts on a naming convention for the manual tests, which will live together with the unit tests.. Right now the unit tests have the word test in their name.
[14:53:06 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i see what you mean, but thats what happens
[14:53:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> reset is supposed to make things nice like that (smile)
[14:53:59 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I thought reset was just supposed to normalize across browsers, take care of quirks...
[14:54:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I guess I was mistaken!
[14:54:07 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it does
[14:54:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> and a little more
[14:54:32 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the margins, padding, and sizes of everything are affected
[14:54:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> and in the case of tables, how the cells behave
[14:55:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> perhaps its a little much though that it draws a border
[14:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> that could probably go
[15:00:28 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: the fss starting-points are already good to go, right?
[15:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[15:01:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> excellent! The others are also done now.
[15:01:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> wow, I really should update some of these
[15:01:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, where are you at with the component templates? Can I help?
[15:01:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no updating now!!
[15:01:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> pls
[15:01:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> one thing at a time!
[15:02:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what can I help with? which ones have you not started on?
[15:02:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> no no - not updating now, just "thinking" out loud
[15:02:22 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[15:02:40 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> at the moment, my machine is having trouble finding its logical drives
[15:02:46 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so im a wee bit screwed
[15:02:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh, dear!
[15:02:58 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> have you started any of them?
[15:03:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i cant safely access most of my work
[15:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ugh
[15:03:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i took a thorough pass at the ui options folder
[15:03:19 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> and all its contents
[15:03:30 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i know inline Edit needs work
[15:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> could you look at that one?
[15:03:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> or I can
[15:03:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> there is no inline edit template...
[15:03:46 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i hope
[15:03:56 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sorry
[15:03:59 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> out of date stuff
[15:04:14 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I'll look at the reorderer stuff
[15:04:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[15:04:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'll let you know when I'm done
[15:04:22 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[15:04:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac, fj4000, colinclark, michelled, Bosmon: i'm going to start the directory rename now
[15:04:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im going to reboot my machine a few times
[15:04:51 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok, i will be out of commission for a few mins. anyways
[15:05:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: I'm good to go - no local changes on my machine right now
[15:09:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I've got a skinning uPortal 3.1 (FSS) question if folks have a minute
[15:11:03 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I have a few places where I have <div id="outer" class="clearfix"><div id="floatleft"></div><div id="floatright"></div></div>
[15:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I believe all the same custom CSS has been applied to outer, floatleft and floatright as in our old (3.0) skin
[15:11:58 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> in our old skin the outer div's height is automatically set to the height of the text in the floated divs
[15:12:08 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> in the new skin the outer div's height is at its minimum value
[15:12:20 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> and I'm going a bit crazy trying to figure out what is going on or how to fix it
[15:17:46 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 is just readin gup
[15:18:30 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> EricDalquist: do you have a link you could show the issue in action?
[15:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> hrm ... let me see if I can get this published somewhere accessible ...
[15:19:19 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> off the top of my head
[15:19:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you could try adding the fss class "fl-fix" to your outer div
[15:19:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> see if that does anything
[15:20:11 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> I owe you a beer
[15:20:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (tongue)
[15:20:27 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> changing class="clearfix" to class="fl-fix" fixed it right up
[15:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> The top level directory has been renamed from components to infusion
[15:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> You will need to do a clean checkout
[15:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> here is the URL:
[15:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/
[15:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> if you just want trunk the URL is:
[15:20:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/trunk/
[15:21:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> EricDalquist: use it carefully though - if the contetns change their behaviour, it maybe wiser to remove it
[15:21:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> and use a different technique
[15:21:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, thanks!
[15:21:40 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ok, well right now the contents are just some static text
[15:22:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok, then its all good
[15:22:02 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> you can see the old version (uP3.0) here https://my-demo.doit.wisc.edu/
[15:22:21 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> click one of the login buttons and it is the Customize this page: bar that was causing me the problem
[15:22:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> trouble happens in FF where you have buttons near the edges of the outer container
[15:23:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> for that example, maybe it would be simpler to set an height in ems?
[15:23:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> to avoid potential issues
[15:23:46 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> do em's scale with text size?
[15:23:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[15:23:51 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> also
[15:23:56 EDT(-0400)] * EricDalquist is a CSS newb
[15:23:56 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you dont need to have 2 floats
[15:24:24 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you could use text-align to arrange one end, and float to set the other - saving you this issue in the first place (smile)
[15:26:10 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> ahhh
[15:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> so float the left and text-align the right
[15:26:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> if you want, sure....
[15:26:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> that would force it to maintain your dimensions
[15:26:51 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> that was the first combination that worked for me
[15:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> b/c you wouldnt have nothing but floating elements
[15:27:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> cool
[15:28:23 EDT(-0400)] <EricDalquist> thanks for the help fj4000
[15:28:30 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (smile) always a pleasure
[15:37:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> fj4000: why do we use '.' to separate the names of the css classes? such as "fss.layout.css"
[15:37:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ?
[15:37:55 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you mean the file names?
[15:38:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes
[15:38:44 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> habit, I guess.
[15:39:22 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I was just looking from above for consistency at everything we name
[15:39:33 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I wonder if want to change these
[15:39:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> would you suggest a dash?
[15:46:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I really don't know. also just realized that image reorderer has a css file called ImageReorderer.css
[15:46:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> very different from everything else.
[15:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> well, many files havent been fss-asized yet
[15:48:08 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> could it be one of them?
[15:54:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> possibly. true - the restructure is not the end of clean up parade
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[16:00:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: FYI, I'm still working my way through the component unit tests
[16:00:55 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> inline edit and pager done
[16:01:03 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> thank you
[16:01:04 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> starting on the reorderer tests
[16:01:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm going to do a commit of my changes now... still have to promote the toc and the table reorderer... and have to figure out what to do with drop down and rich text inline edit too
[16:05:58 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> Justin_o, anastasiac: im just cleaning up some standalone demos
[16:06:21 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> like pager site setting in sakai
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[16:07:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, pager site setting is an integration demo, not a standalone demo
[16:07:38 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sorry
[16:08:00 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, just checking (smile)
[16:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> did you do a fresh checkout, with the new infusion name?
[16:08:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000: ^
[16:08:57 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i did...and aptana doesnt like it
[16:09:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> (sad)
[16:10:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> trying it again.....
[16:10:23 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> fj4000, how so? not an update, but a checkout...
[16:10:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its not recognizing the project file anymore
[16:18:05 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> anastasiac: ive tried through aptana to pull the project in through an svn repository, and it give me a "project mapping error"
[16:18:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> did you try removing the old code altogether?
[16:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> delete the folder?
[16:19:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[16:19:21 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I have nothing at the moment
[16:19:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I can checkout the whole thing again
[16:19:43 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> but aptana still wont read the project
[16:20:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> what url are you using to checkout
[16:20:28 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infusion/trunk
[16:20:51 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> and it isn't pulling it down
[16:20:59 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its coming down fine
[16:21:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> did you try quitting aptana and restarting?
[16:21:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> just aptana refuses to acknowledge its a project
[16:21:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yes
[16:21:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> try using the command line up check out, then importing into aptana
[16:21:35 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> what steps are you doing to get it
[16:22:21 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[16:22:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so I create a new folder to house the checkout
[16:22:48 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i go to the above url to pull it down - great stuff
[16:23:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> go to aptana > import a new project
[16:23:28 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> select the folder I made, like always
[16:24:02 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> choose Import existing projects into Workspace
[16:24:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> *then * I select the folder I made (sorry)
[16:24:38 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ach
[16:24:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its working now
[16:24:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sorry bout that
[16:24:57 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> 4th times the charm I guess (tongue)
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[17:15:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, I think all of the component_tests unit tests are now updated.
[17:15:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
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