fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-09-26

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[08:18:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: any more luck with FLUID-4461
[08:19:00 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> not yet. sigh… (sad)
[08:20:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: (sad) oh well..
[08:20:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: anything i can do to help
[08:21:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: help with research maybe?
[08:26:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: sure.. so we're down to trying to determine how exactly IE9 calculates the em to px conversion?
[08:27:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, Justin_o, i highly suspect that ie9 has a different rounding rule
[08:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> IE9 would return back the expected px if the given em has <= 2 decimal digits
[08:29:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> once given more than 2 decimal digits, 9 out of 10 times, the returned px has a slight deviation
[08:29:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: hm.. okay..
[09:20:48 CDT(-0500)] <yura> never been in the other one
[09:21:02 CDT(-0500)] <yura> ^ wrong window
[09:36:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: an IE blog about the newly introduced font display strategy in IE9
[09:36:14 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2010/11/03/sub-pixel-fonts-in-ie9.aspx
[09:36:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: thanks
[09:38:45 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: although the article didn't mention the detail algorithm of em to px conversion, it did mention that pt to px conversion in IE9 is no longer same as the older IE versions. we should expect smaller or larger font size in most cases
[09:40:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> doesn't seem a wise decision ...
[09:40:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: right.. looking at the chart… do you think this means that our test is sort of incorrect
[09:42:05 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: umm.. i don't actually think our test is incorrect. it does test the way that UIEnhancer works
[09:42:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: yes.. i guess what i mean is, is this something that needs to be fixed in the component or the test..
[09:43:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> is it sufficient to do some browsers detection for IE 9 to have a different result
[09:43:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> ?
[09:43:36 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> the problem is that I haven't found how IE9 does the conversion
[09:45:47 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> the worse is I suspect if IE9 is doing the conversion correctly
[09:46:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: well i guess this is saying that they make calculations based on sub-pixels instead of rounding up to the nearest pixel
[09:46:53 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> well, i don't think it's the truth from my experiment
[09:47:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: it is hard to trust IE (smile)
[09:48:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Morning, huslage
[09:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How's it going?
[09:48:25 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> howdy
[09:48:28 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> going.
[09:48:40 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> did you get my pretty picture ?
[09:53:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huslage: I did indeed
[09:53:27 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i simplified the arch greatly
[09:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's great
[09:53:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Let's talk through it this afternoon if you've got some time
[09:53:53 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> and i was talking to a friend who said that the 5000 series switches would be great for core network gear too.
[09:54:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh cool
[09:54:08 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> so we could probably provide those to OCAD
[09:54:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> When you've got some free time, can you take a look at http://codetalks.org/wiki/
[09:54:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huslage: That sounds good
[09:54:18 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> is that us?
[09:54:34 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> oh codetalks. lol. ok
[09:57:44 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: umm, it might be the truth with pt to px conversion, which tend to be more precise, but with em to px conversion, the result doesn't seem right and I wonder if it's related to this new sub-pixel fonts strategy
[09:59:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: yes.. seems likely
[10:05:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huslage: The Drupal instance for floeproject.org also looks hungry for updates
[10:05:28 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> k
[10:05:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> again, no rush
[10:05:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but something to put on the short-term list
[10:05:35 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> fixing codetalks
[10:05:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: i'm guessing this stuff they are mentioning about zooming and scaling is similar to the effects we are seeing with using EMS
[10:05:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> ems
[10:06:18 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[10:10:47 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> colinclark: codetalks is back
[10:10:56 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> disk filled
[10:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Thanks, huslage
[10:11:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Disk filled with what?
[10:11:24 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> log crap
[10:11:36 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> 2Gb access log that never rotated off
[10:11:44 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> GB
[10:11:55 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> E_OFF_BY_ONE_MILLION
[10:13:52 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i fixed the rotation problem too
[10:13:53 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> (smile)
[10:17:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks
[10:17:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's good
[10:20:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huslage: Apparently starting and stopping Continuum will fix our immediate issue with it
[10:20:57 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> how do you know this?
[10:21:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And we can also turn off password expiration, which led us to this situation in the first place
[10:21:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The Google
[10:21:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://old.nabble.com/Password-expiration-td15699325.html
[10:21:37 CDT(-0500)] * huslage dies
[10:22:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> you're dying?
[10:22:23 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> done
[10:22:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Give Continuum a try again when you have a chance; see if we're in slightly better shape.
[10:23:44 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> floe site updates done
[10:23:49 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i think
[10:24:16 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> drupal is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, encrypted with a one-time-pad
[10:28:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> https://connect.ocad.ca/fluid-work down, trying york
[10:30:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> york works
[10:30:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> fyi jameswy ^
[10:31:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: url?
[10:31:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> for york
[10:31:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jhung http://connect.yorku.ca/fluidwork
[10:46:35 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark, justin_o: reminder there is a Decapod meeting today at 12p.
[10:47:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: I'm booked for another noon meeting, but I'm available to chat ahead of time if you and Justin_o want to talk about next steps, etc.
[10:48:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: Skype?
[10:48:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[10:49:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: just be one second.. talking Nigeria stuff first (smile)
[10:52:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Don't forget I've only got about six minutes left (wink)
[11:20:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: have you managed to take a look at the read me and release notes for 1.4? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4251
[11:21:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: I looked at them back in the summer, and anastasiac rolled in some of my feedback
[11:22:00 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> do you know if that made it into the repo? can that JIRA be closed now>
[11:22:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> ?
[11:22:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I don't know if there is further work to be done on this front. anastasiac, what do you think?
[11:22:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'll have a look, to double-check that whatever changes we'd made are in the repo, and to give the doc another once-over, in light of the work we've done since then
[11:23:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: As for changes in the repos, you can see that I did indeed commit some changes on July 25, and anastasiac had several others previously
[11:23:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So we should be up to date
[11:23:35 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks
[11:25:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: can you either resolve or reopen the JIRA based on whether it is done?
[11:25:27 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> will do, michelled
[11:35:00 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: are you working on a blocker?
[11:35:13 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, michelled
[11:35:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> 4661
[11:35:23 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cool thx
[11:35:26 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sorry, 4461
[11:36:44 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: just to make sure I've got this right - 4461 and 4443 are the last remaining blockers, right?
[11:39:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: that's correct, there is also a documentation thing that anastasiac is working on, but those are the only two code ones
[11:45:20 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: I can't reproduce this anymore - can you? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4411
[11:46:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: i can't either
[11:46:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yay - want to close it?
[11:46:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: sure i can do that
[11:47:23 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, is the browser support page on the wiki up-to-date? (not edited since March)
[11:48:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: which one are you looking at?
[11:48:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Browser+Support
[11:48:27 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> is there more than one, Justin_o, and if so, why?
[11:49:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: well there are specific pages for the charts, which is pulled into that page
[11:49:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> and a macro handles the liras, so it should be all up-to-date
[11:49:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks for double-checking, Justin_o
[11:49:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: how about this one? http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4363
[11:50:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, the browser support info in the Release Notes is not up-to-date, so I'll create a branch for the changes and issue a pull request when it's ready. I'll also be going through the "known issues" list and making sure it's up-to-date. The rest looks pretty good to me
[11:51:08 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks anastasiac
[11:51:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: that one looks good now too
[11:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'll close it as well
[11:52:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx (smile)
[11:54:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, Justin_o, could you double-check if the component status wiki page is still accurate? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Component+Status
[11:55:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i believe that is still correct
[11:56:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks Justin_o
[12:12:54 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, Justin_o, do you know if the JIRAs for recently-fixed blockers have been resolved/closed?
[12:13:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i believe they should be
[12:14:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks Justin_o. I want to ensure the Release Notes list of "known issues" is up-to-date, so I'm comparing it against JIRA
[12:15:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've issued a pull request for the release notes: https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/171
[12:16:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx
[12:17:47 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, is UI Options open for testing now?
[12:27:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: not yet..
[12:34:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> huslage: Cathy Berry is trying to access the IDRC wiki but doesn't have access. Can we set her up with an accouint?
[12:34:50 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yah
[12:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> huslage. Cool. Let me know what she needs to do.
[13:26:59 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Bosmon: how are the tests coming?
[13:36:17 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> jhung: if she creates a user account called CathyBerry on this page: http://wiki.idrc.ocad.ca/HelpOnLogin?action=newaccount she will be all set
[13:36:51 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Huslage: That's awesome Aaron. Thanks a lot!
[13:37:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Bosmon, are you there?
[13:40:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark, justin_o: just fyi, Pat is working on competitive quotes today. Henrys and Third Wave Computer (for the laptop) have returned our requests so far.
[13:40:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks for letting me know, jhung
[13:40:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> michelled - I'm working on them
[13:40:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'll have them done by end of today
[13:40:56 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> (for me)
[13:41:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks Bosmon