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[08:46:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark, jameswy: is it worth writing polished wiki documentation for 0.4 as we did for 0.3? I'm a bit wary since the next release will be soon and there may be more changes to the interface. Thoughts?
[08:48:00 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung, colinclark: given that 0.5 is mainly bug fixing and no major changes, couldn't we reuse much of what we on 0.4 for 0.5?
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[08:50:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Jameswy: true.
[08:50:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy. I'll start writing the 0.4 documentation now. I'll be modifying this page: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Decapod+0.4+Release
[08:51:17 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> let me know if you need to move it or move the parent(s).
[08:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung: Will do. I probably won't start wiki gardening until the second half of this week though.
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[10:26:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So jhung, sorry I missed your documentation question
[10:26:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Did you and jameswy come to any decisions about what to do with it for this release?
[10:26:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think at bare minimum we'll want an updated README and new installation documentation
[10:29:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: We decided to update the wiki documentation to 0.4 as well since we can use most of it again in 0.5.
[10:30:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, that sounds good
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[10:42:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, so if you guys work on the README, jhung and jessm, just ping me when you're ready for me to tag it
[10:42:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then michelled, do you mind testing the release package if I make for you and give you a shiny Ubuntu VM?
[10:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: roger that
[10:43:02 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jhung: yes, let's skype
[10:43:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sure
[10:43:21 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I'll probably test it on the deca laptop if that's ok
[10:51:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Sure, if the laptop has VMWare
[10:51:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Otherwise, I guess we could trade machines
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[13:51:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jessm: I'm back. Anything you need from me at the moment? I'll be working on the installation instructions and then the user guide.
[13:52:12 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jhung: i believe ccolinclark sent you the latest with places for filling in?
[13:52:15 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> in email?
[13:52:23 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> k. I'll check now.
[13:53:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jessm: I did not get an email. Last was the one you sent at 12:45p.
[13:56:49 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jhung: i've pinged him
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[13:58:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: what is the current state of the readme? Anything I can help with?
[13:59:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey jhung
[13:59:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, i need you to finalize the README
[13:59:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm just committing it now
[13:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok
[13:59:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Jess' draft with a few edits from me
[13:59:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, there are like five different READMEs at the moment
[13:59:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Or, rather, they're all the same
[13:59:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but in different places
[13:59:55 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Ah. So I'll need to update them all.
[14:00:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> (if needed)
[14:00:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I just asked michelled and she suggested we get rid of all of them except the one in the default
[14:00:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Saving you the need to update five of the same thing
[14:00:20 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> great.
[14:00:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So I'll do that now
[14:00:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> k
[14:03:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: While I'm doing this, can you do a tiny bit of JIRA gardening?
[14:03:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-57 is done
[14:03:19 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Yes.
[14:03:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Will do.
[14:03:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-138
[14:03:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> done, i think
[14:03:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks,
[14:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: Here's the JIRA I'm using for READMEs as well as any other release-related prep, just in case you need it
[14:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-158
[14:07:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, jhung, the README should be in the master now
[14:07:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Have a look over it, tweak however you see fit, and fill out the "What Kind of Material Can I Capture with Decapod 0.4?"
[14:08:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Colinclark: Okay. I'll look at it now. I'll also close DECA-138 once I confirm the versions used.
[14:08:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks so much
[14:08:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> when you're done, i'll retag everything and package it up
[14:08:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelle will test on a clean system
[14:08:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> perhaps you're willing to try it on a system that already has Decapod installed on it, jhung
[14:09:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Colinclark: sure. I'll test it shortly.
[14:09:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i'm having push problems, so one sec on the README
[14:17:42 CDT(-0500)] * colinclark hates Google Code
[14:22:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: Okay, it should be pushed now
[14:22:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: roger that. Grabbing code now.
[14:24:54 CDT(-0500)] * jhung Waiting for Googlecode to wake up...
[14:25:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Google Code is insanely slow
[14:25:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> They may end up foiling our release if it stays this slow
[14:25:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going insane
[14:33:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so jhung, can you remind me what revision of genpdf we're going to use?
[14:33:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> the tip, right?
[14:33:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yes. v38 if I recall correctly.
[14:33:50 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: got the changes. Looking over the readme now.
[14:33:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> excellent
[14:35:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: I'm going to go ahead and tag everything except default while you work on the README
[14:45:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: just about to commit changes to the README now.
[14:45:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks, jhung
[14:47:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, jhung, just to confirm: we're still going with the OCRopus tag "ocropus-0.4.4," right?
[14:47:41 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jamon - had we switched the atlassian contact info to you? I still seem to have an account
[14:48:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: yes. 0.4.4.
[14:48:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: pushed changes to README
[14:48:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: wicked
[14:49:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, if you will, just double check that I have tagged everything right
[14:49:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In short, we're going with the tip of everyting
[14:49:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> stitching, genpdf, server, ui
[14:49:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "hg tags" should let you double check I haven't made a mistake
[14:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: I wonder if we should add a section to the "What Kind of Material..." section that mentions our flattening and geometry issues
[14:50:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In that, a user needs to ensure that the material is very flat (since we don't yet have dewarping), well-cropped, and exactly straight
[14:51:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Is that about right?
[14:51:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: I don't think that's necessary since 0.4 only does image PDFs.
[14:52:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[14:52:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So is there absolutely no OCR done on an image PDF?
[14:52:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: do you know where I should drop the vmware image for vmware to find it?
[14:52:27 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: the only caveat is that sometimes genpdf will omit pages if it doesn't find anything to segment, but that's a known bug.
[14:52:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Stick it wherever VMWare is configured to look for images
[14:52:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's configurable
[14:52:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: ok
[14:53:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: there is segmentation happening, but not OCR.
[14:53:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, that sounds fine then
[14:53:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: k
[14:53:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: So you're happy with this? Shall I go ahead and tag?
[14:53:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Do you want to take a last peek at the README?
[14:53:44 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yeah, sure
[14:54:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://code.google.com/p/decapod/source/browse/README.txt
[14:54:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: Just double-check those tags in case I made a mistake
[14:54:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And once you guys both give me the thumbs up, I'll pour the concrete
[14:55:30 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: Tags look good. Waiting for the final tag on the default.
[14:57:20 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: I'll do a final run through the package once all the tags are in place?
[14:59:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ype
[14:59:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll tag, then create a zip file
[14:59:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Will post it on the Google Code site as decapod-0.4-rc.zip
[15:00:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> If it works, it'll go up as the final version
[15:00:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled is still getting and running with VMWare
[15:00:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Whaddya think?
[15:01:11 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: just finishing up...
[15:01:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> k
[15:01:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> sorry, don't mean to rush you
[15:01:31 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: looks good to me – jhung just needs to make the urls match for things that aren't out there on the wiki yet and we're good to go
[15:01:48 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> oh, no rush
[15:02:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i like the "what kind of materials" section – very much needed
[15:02:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: do the URLs match okay?
[15:03:16 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Yep I checked against the ones that exist, and it's good.
[15:03:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> great
[15:04:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: So, I'll tag it then?
[15:07:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: affirmative.
[15:07:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> exciting!
[15:08:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Colinclark: I put stubs in for the missing documentation. Will need to fill those in by end of the week.
[15:09:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, no problem
[15:14:47 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jhung: the network at 7th fl. just went down
[15:14:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Oh man
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[15:16:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jessm, colinclark: I'll need to run shortly. Is everything mercurial wise good to go?
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[15:19:41 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark, jessm: sorry I got to run. I will be online later toinight to pick up any pieces. Send me emails if necessary.
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