fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-07-28

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[09:35:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> test
[09:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <clown> id your test work?
[09:37:49 CDT(-0500)] <clown> s/id/did/
[09:38:26 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: Did you try activating the phones @ ocad? I had no luck.
[09:38:54 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, I haven't tried yet - I meant to check with you yesterday as to whether or not you'd managed
[09:38:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'll give it a try today
[09:39:20 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> clown, yes - you passed (smile)
[09:39:49 CDT(-0500)] <clown> clown gets a gold star!
[09:40:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac, I'll try again today, but I think someone else already activated them.
[09:40:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> maybe we should try leaving our selves a message (smile)
[09:40:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ah. GOod idea.
[09:40:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'll give that a try now.
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[09:44:07 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> anastasiac: just a misset setting
[09:44:24 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> greggy, glad you got it sorted out
[09:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <yura> have anyone figured out how to update the email that you've signed up with to fluid mailing lists ? i can't seem to receive a confirmation letter. [It worked though with collectionspace mailing lists, anastasiac]
[09:47:18 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> are people receiving email at their ocad.ca mail accounts today?
[09:47:56 CDT(-0500)] <yura> greggy: seems to be working for me (at least I got what I was expecting)
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[09:48:58 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> yura: I've been CCing myself at OCAD on all email, but none has come though...
[09:49:11 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> seems to have stopped working sometime later yesterday
[09:49:16 CDT(-0500)] <yura> hmm
[09:49:27 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> greggy, yura, all: It looks like jamon's request to ocad to forward our ocad emails to another email address is now in place
[09:49:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> my emails are all being forwarded
[09:49:34 CDT(-0500)] <yura> i noticed some delay yesterday but i would still get the emails eventually
[09:49:39 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> might that be the cause?
[09:49:40 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> can anyone else confirm ocad mail is working
[09:50:05 CDT(-0500)] <yura> anastasiac: so how do we forward them (smile) ?
[09:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> if forward is turned on. I'm still not receiving the forwards
[09:50:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yura, if you gave jamon an email address for forwarding, they're already being forwarded
[09:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> greggy, then I'm not sure what the problem is
[09:50:48 CDT(-0500)] <yura> oh
[09:50:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura> thanks
[09:50:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I am receiving ocad emails at my forwarded address
[09:50:58 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> you have to request forwarding, via jamon
[09:51:00 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> though I no longer want to
[09:52:18 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> I wonder if perhaps they got my forwarding mail wrong, that might explain things...
[09:52:36 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> has anyone been in communication with jamon today?
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[09:53:35 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I emailed him, but no response. he's here in the channel, but not responding
[09:53:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> he might be helping with the moving
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[09:56:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy, re: phone extensions. Did you use the default passcode and it worked?
[09:57:39 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> jhung: yes I used the default
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[09:59:19 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> hmmm. very curious. I'll check with Jan to make sure he didn't accidentally set up that extensions.
[10:01:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy: which extension did you activate?
[10:01:49 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> jhung: call the extension and see what you get, mine is 3956
[10:02:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy: the system tries the extension(s) and then hangs up.
[10:02:17 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'll give the admins a call
[10:04:18 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> mackrauss: ping
[10:04:39 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> greggy pong
[10:05:11 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> are you able to contact the ocad mail folk, and have them check the forward email address for me...
[10:05:33 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> I do not seems to be receiving ocad mail, nor anything forwarded
[10:06:31 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> Greggy I never had contact with them, so they don't know me yet
[10:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> So I am not sure if they talk to me about that
[10:06:50 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> OCAD IT Services at 416-977-6000 x 277 to get assistance
[10:07:11 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> This is the number I got from an email (my mail does not work either)
[10:07:19 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> maybe you can track down jamon, I need to get this resolved quickly so mail I'm receiving there does not end up evaporating
[10:07:37 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> I send him a message
[10:08:37 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> he's busy, probably not reply to mail now...
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[10:12:03 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> I'll call, if anyone else besides Armin is not receiving mail from ocad, please send me a note via email, including the correct forward mail address
[10:12:17 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> I'll call a little later
[10:13:08 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> greggay@rogers.com
[10:17:27 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> Greggy my issues are of a different nature, so they are not related with your forwarding issue.
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[10:27:38 CDT(-0500)] <mackrauss> Jamon said he will be online later this Afternoon and will be able to help you greggy
[10:28:14 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> k,thx I'll wait to hear from him before calling...
[10:28:30 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> .
[10:35:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, are you joining stand-up?
[10:35:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> oops - yes
[10:35:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jameswy? stand-up?
[10:50:07 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: you are signed up to fluid work with your utor address
[10:50:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, sounds likely - I was planning to not unsubscribe until I'd successfully signed up at ocad
[10:50:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I guess I'll try again
[10:50:45 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yura - you're signed up with your gmail address
[10:50:51 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> oh, no - not till ocad emails aren't being forwarded...
[10:50:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, where are you??
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[10:52:10 CDT(-0500)] <yura> michelled: yes and i tried setting a different email, but email confirmation didnt work for me
[10:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <alison-b> michelled: I know the ATRC in in boxes right now and everyone's probably working at home. still I have to ask: is there a way I can get my hands on an iphone this week for testing?
[10:53:40 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alison-b: probably not - I'll message you privately
[10:53:58 CDT(-0500)] <alison-b> k
[10:54:08 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> alison-b: send a note to Pat. She has the mobile devices
[10:58:02 CDT(-0500)] <alison-b> k
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[11:23:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> alison-b: Do you want to try the phones wiki page again and see if you have write access now?
[11:23:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> alison-b: You may have to do a bit of running around town to get set up with the phones. Pat is pretty swamped today with the move to OCAD
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[11:56:54 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, clown, jameswy, jhung-alt, yura: have any of you successfully changed your fluid mailing list e-mail?
[11:57:05 CDT(-0500)] <yura> nope
[11:57:12 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: I haven't tried yet.
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[11:58:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled: yura and I were discussing this earlier. I think I tried, but never got the confirmation email for the new subscription. I was going to try again today, but right now my ocad emails are being forwarded, so I'm going to wait until that gets turned off (jamon? jamon?)
[12:02:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I think there might be an issue with our mailman. I'm going to send jamon a email about it and I'll cc you guys
[12:02:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks
[12:07:33 CDT(-0500)] <clown> michelled, still awaiting confirmation email that the change took. (in teleconference, btw).
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[14:28:02 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> jamon: you around yet?
[14:44:22 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> jamon: re: our conversation yesterday. no problem connecting today from home
[14:44:40 CDT(-0500)] <elicochran> I'm not in the office today, so I can't check to see if it's cleared up
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[15:49:38 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anyone still looking for me? was shuffling boxes etc., move is all done (smile)
[15:50:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, there are probably a bunch of emails to you about stuff
[15:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: mailing list and ocad emails i think
[15:50:28 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we're trying to move our fluidproject mailman accounts over to our ocad emails butit's not working
[15:50:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> right - plus I had one personal email about ocad's forwarding
[15:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> got it
[15:50:53 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> checking mailman now
[15:51:00 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, did things go ok today?
[15:51:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> perfectly anastasiac, got all the desks, chairs, etc. moved
[15:51:26 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> 1st floor is cleared out too
[15:51:33 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> will be all set to unpack on tuesday
[15:51:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> excellent! Thanks so much for what must have been a gargantuan task
[15:52:18 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> it is remarkable to actually be there and see the space
[15:52:29 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> been such an abstract thing for so long, very nice payoff (smile)
[15:53:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm looking forward to next week
[15:53:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> and i see justin is already picking up the role of entertainment coordinator
[15:53:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[15:53:23 CDT(-0500)] <yura> (smile)
[15:57:52 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> Can anyone tell me if there is a user guide for the engage 0.3 download?
[15:59:42 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yakimax: there's a link to the war file on the projects's page: http://fluidengage.org/downloads/engage/0.3/
[15:59:55 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> Thanks, I got the war file, and have it all expanded
[16:00:17 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> Now where do I go from here?
[16:01:16 CDT(-0500)] <yura> have you tried deploying the war file in tomcat ?
[16:03:09 CDT(-0500)] <yura> i think the demo would work from that, if you want to see the source and build from source you can check it out from here http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/fluid-all/ using svn, this way you will download all depencies for engage's trunk
[16:06:51 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jamon, I have received a flurry of confirmation emails from mailman - whatever you did seems to have worked!
[16:07:14 CDT(-0500)] <yura> me too
[16:07:18 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: whew
[16:07:37 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac, yura, i sent a test to fluid-work, let me know if it comes through (or not)
[16:08:14 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> bunch of everyone@atrc just wcame in/went out too
[16:09:23 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> I am not sure how to work the demo. I have deployed it using tomcat
[16:09:37 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> I am a web designer, so this is new to me
[16:12:35 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yakimax: alright, so I m guessing once it's deployed, you should be able to access it by going to
[16:12:35 CDT(-0500)] <yura> localhost:8080/name_of_the_war_file/home/home.html
[16:13:10 CDT(-0500)] <yura> insert the name of the war file in that url and see if you can access the app in one of the supported browsers
[16:14:29 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> ok. the only home folder seems to be in the "services" folder
[16:15:13 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> the war file created a folder called engage-0.3
[16:15:30 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> in that are eight folders, but not a home folder
[16:17:06 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> application, fluid-engage-core, fluid-infusion,-kettle, META-INF, services, tests, WEB-INF
[16:21:00 CDT(-0500)] <yura> right, i meant once it's deployed in tomcat the war file is being served so the paths in the url are not necessarily the same as the structure in the war file. So, since it's being served you should be able to access it in the browser. and that url i mentioned is the default home page url for engage. so you should be able to see the demo if you follow that url (localhost:8080/engage-0.3/home/home.html). Let me know if you can see anything o
[16:23:24 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yura, quick question: in RecordEditor, any reason that setUnchanged() is actually defined as a named function, and not just passed anonymously to the addlistener in the next line? (about lines 103 - 107)
[16:24:35 CDT(-0500)] <yura> i think it might have been used by more than one function , you are right, right now there;s only 1 place where it's used
[16:25:38 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> Thanks yura.. do I need to use localhost? I have it on its on url on the web
[16:27:43 CDT(-0500)] <yura> i think by default it actually serves on 0.0.0.0 which , if you have a static ip, should work if you replace localhost with your static ip
[16:28:05 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> ok. will try that.. thanks
[16:28:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura> np
[16:32:20 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> I tried with firefox and iphone, but not answering
[16:34:29 CDT(-0500)] <yura> well firefox will not work that well with it since it uses some of the webkit's css
[16:34:42 CDT(-0500)] <yura> as for the iphone it should be working
[16:35:02 CDT(-0500)] <yura> do you have a static ip that I can try getting to and see if i can load it ?
[16:35:05 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> i can just use Safari browser with http. correct
[16:35:14 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> 97.74.144.206:8080/engage-0.3/home/home.html
[16:35:47 CDT(-0500)] <yura> chrome should work as well
[16:36:29 CDT(-0500)] <yura> ya, it's tomcat, it doesn't serve to 0.0.0.0
[16:36:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura> so i m guessing there's got to be a setting to do that
[16:37:10 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> So a setting on tomcat?
[16:37:13 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yes
[16:37:22 CDT(-0500)] <yura> not sure where it is though, but were you able to access the demo using localhost?
[16:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> no, its not on a local serever
[16:37:36 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> server
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[16:40:40 CDT(-0500)] <yura> hmm
[16:41:24 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> My final goal is to set up a mobile application for our museum, where I don't have to pay for a special hosting service to do it.
[16:41:34 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> So wanted to be part of this project and test
[16:42:47 CDT(-0500)] <yura> that sounds cool; let's see, can you open http://localhost:8080 ?
[16:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <yura> do you get to tomcat?
[16:43:19 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> I can't get to tomcat, cause it is on a hosting service
[16:44:41 CDT(-0500)] <yura> oh so it's not on the local machine?
[16:45:15 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> no
[16:46:52 CDT(-0500)] <yura> oh, ok, but you can still deploy the war file on that remote host , right?
[16:48:17 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> and mailman lists are back now too (smile)
[16:48:29 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> Yes, the war file is deployed
[16:48:40 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> jamon helped me with that part
[16:48:59 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> anastasiac: if you're up for it, try subscribing using your ocad email to fluid-work, see if you can post ot the list
[16:49:04 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> or to another of your choise
[16:49:06 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> choice
[16:51:11 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yakimax, jamon: oh good, so i understand that the ip of that host is the one you mentioned before: 97.74...?
[16:51:18 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> yes
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[16:55:06 CDT(-0500)] <yura> jamon: would you happen to know what port tomcat is served at ?
[16:55:41 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> yura: default is 8080 unless overridden
[16:56:24 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> let me see if it is different
[16:56:33 CDT(-0500)] <yura> yakimax mentioned you helped him to deploy enage war , would you know if it was left default?
[16:56:48 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i don't think that it was touched yura
[16:57:33 CDT(-0500)] <yura> hmm so i would be able to see tomcat if i tried to access 97.74.144.206:8080/ ?
[16:57:46 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> not necessarily yura, depends on the network config
[16:58:09 CDT(-0500)] <yura> oh ok
[16:58:54 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> netstat -tupln |grep 8080 though will show it listening if tomcat is up
[16:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> checking
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[17:10:36 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> 80 seems to be the only port
[17:12:29 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> the servlet seems to be called Kettle
[17:16:30 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> well, maybe this wont work
[17:18:28 CDT(-0500)] <yakimax> thanks for your help yura
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[18:35:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung-alt> ping Jamon?
[18:35:48 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ?
[18:37:50 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jhung-alt: hi
[18:40:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung-alt> jamon, is there going to be downtime for the fluid wiki or has that been moved already?
[18:40:54 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jhung-alt: everything is moved
[18:41:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhung-alt> excellent! Thanks Jamon. {color}
[18:41:25 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> happy to help (smile)
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