fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-11-11

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[16:53:59 EST(-0500)] <athena> ah well, it was a thought!
[16:54:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> DOOM!
[16:54:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> lol
[16:57:51 EST(-0500)] <michelled> jamon, you can grab the war file from this JIRA: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-170
[16:57:51 EST(-0500)] <athena> this seems like it might be a bit suspicious: https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/engage/fluid-engage-kettle/trunk/pom.xml
[16:58:02 EST(-0500)] <athena> specifically: <targetPath>/</targetPath>
[16:58:28 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: checking now, will deploy momentarily
[16:58:32 EST(-0500)] <michelled> you are awesome athena!
[16:58:39 EST(-0500)] <athena> well, maybe (smile)
[16:58:43 EST(-0500)] <athena> i don't know if that's the issue or not
[16:58:44 EST(-0500)] <michelled> that looks very suspicious indeed
[16:58:57 EST(-0500)] <michelled> thanks jamon
[17:00:12 EST(-0500)] <athena> if you wind up needing something that's not just target or whatever, there are actually some useful maven variables you can use to refer to the project's root directory and such
[17:00:45 EST(-0500)] <athena> http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVENUSER/MavenPropertiesGuide
[17:02:51 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: deployed and running
[17:03:27 EST(-0500)] <michelled> thanks athena - I was just thinking I need to learn more about maven
[17:03:35 EST(-0500)] <jamon> seems quick enough despite yura's big orange warning (smile)
[17:03:45 EST(-0500)] <michelled> jamon: that was fast! and it's pointing at your couch instance?
[17:04:08 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: checking
[17:05:51 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: hmm, timing out
[17:06:05 EST(-0500)] <athena> michelled: if there's anything in particular you guys want to know about, feel free to ask
[17:06:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> maven's interesting, but a lot of it's not that well documented and some of the plugins are buggy
[17:06:26 EST(-0500)] <athena> can be a little frustrating
[17:06:44 EST(-0500)] <jamon> athena: i think you just described all of java (tongue)
[17:06:50 EST(-0500)] <athena> LOL
[17:06:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena is genius!
[17:07:12 EST(-0500)] <athena> from a java developers standpoint, that sounds more like trying to deal w/ javascript (wink)
[17:07:18 EST(-0500)] <michelled> athena - looks like that was the issue
[17:07:21 EST(-0500)] <michelled> (smile)
[17:07:27 EST(-0500)] <athena> awesome! i'm glad that helped
[17:07:29 EST(-0500)] <jamon> or python, or ruby, or language foo
[17:07:36 EST(-0500)] <michelled> gonna commit the change and test with continuum
[17:07:36 EST(-0500)] * athena revokes the sentence of DOOM
[17:09:58 EST(-0500)] <athena> ok, i'm off to the gym to hop around and look silly
[17:10:08 EST(-0500)] <athena> hope you all have a good night!
[17:17:48 EST(-0500)] <michelled> I will now - thanks for the help
[17:21:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm totally going to buy athena a beer at the conference
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[08:51:38 EST(-0500)] <sveto> Justin_o: Hi, I'm experiencing a strange problem with the reorderer - http://unistud.asteasolutions.net:11930/artifacts/myCollection.html - the problem is more easily reproduced if you switch to list view - if you try to drop an image after/behind another image then the first image gets added to the containing <li> element instead of causing a reordering, so the result is that two images are contained in the li. my movable element is the <a> that contains t
[08:51:38 EST(-0500)] <sveto> but the same happens if the image itself i movable. if I remove the fl-grid or fl-list style then this doesn't happen. do you have any idea about this behaviour?
[08:58:59 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: hello, a quick guess is that the li itself should be reorderable
[08:59:06 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> but i'll take a look
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[09:01:15 EST(-0500)] <sveto> Justin_o: yes, I think this solved the problem
[09:02:00 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: that's good... how's everything else going
[09:03:03 EST(-0500)] <sveto> Justin_o: I've created a toggle link for grid to list transition, now I'll try to invoke reRender and render the additional data for the list.
[09:04:48 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: that sounds good.
[09:05:19 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: i'll try to spend some time today to take a look at your code
[09:05:40 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> but this probably won't happen until this afternoon (my time)
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[09:06:37 EST(-0500)] <sveto> Justin_o: I was going to ask for that, the grid view is almost ready, needs styling and there's the problem with touch events for mobile
[09:08:47 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: the touch events will be interesting, hopefully we'll be able to prevent the default, but that may be an issue when the items are offscreen and you have to scroll to them...
[09:10:47 EST(-0500)] <sveto> Justin_o: can't we use scrollbars?
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[09:22:02 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sveto: i don't think we will want to add scrollbars to the interface, but this will end up being a design decision
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[09:38:53 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ping
[09:40:08 EST(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: hi
[09:40:44 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: just to give you the heads-up – fj4000 is uploading fluidengage.org now
[09:40:59 EST(-0500)] <jamon> anything i need to do?
[09:42:08 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> jamon: everything seems good
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[11:03:52 EST(-0500)] <athena> fj4000: do you have suggestions on holding our meeting today or should i hunt down a conference line to borrow?
[11:16:09 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> athena: does skype not work for this?
[11:16:32 EST(-0500)] <athena> fj4000: sounds reasonable - i'll ask if gary has an account
[11:16:38 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> ok
[11:16:45 EST(-0500)] <athena> i wasn't sure if we wanted to do any screen sharing though
[11:16:58 EST(-0500)] <athena> i can ask gary when he gets in
[11:18:03 EST(-0500)] <athena> he's already done a bunch of work on the wiki, so maybe that'll be enough (smile)
[11:18:36 EST(-0500)] <athena> ok, skype it is
[11:18:42 EST(-0500)] <athena> thanks fj4000 (smile)
[11:22:28 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> athena: no problem (smile)
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[11:39:02 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> athena: I have a small hiccup
[11:39:17 EST(-0500)] <athena> oh sure - what's up?
[11:39:21 EST(-0500)] <athena> conflict today?
[11:39:21 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> in that we need to get material for Colin up and running before 3 pm our time
[11:39:27 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> its super high priority
[11:39:41 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> is there any way we could all sync up after 3:15 EST ?
[11:39:50 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> or is that pushing it too far for everyone?
[11:40:12 EST(-0500)] <athena> normally that'd be fine but i'm supposed to go down to NYC today
[11:40:22 EST(-0500)] <athena> i got tasked with checking out a cool open source video project
[11:40:26 EST(-0500)] <athena> how does 1pm tomorrow sound?
[11:40:48 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> oh, that would be better
[11:40:56 EST(-0500)] <athena> ok, i'll check with gary (smile)
[11:41:00 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> thank you
[11:41:06 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> im sorry for the last minute change
[11:41:34 EST(-0500)] <athena> hey no worries, i appreciate you making the time for this stuff
[11:43:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> ok fj4000, we're on for tomorrow
[11:43:25 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> wonderful
[11:43:28 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> thanks so much
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[13:53:38 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> anyone here have a few minutes for a reorderer CSS question?
[14:04:02 EST(-0500)] <laurel> ask away and will see what we can do - I'm not an expert, but maybe someone else will chime in!
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[14:48:52 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> So I'm using the reorderer for some table rows and having issues with dragging them
[14:48:56 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> you can see this in action by going to http://my-testdemo.doit.wisc.edu/
[14:49:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> click login as student
[14:49:27 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> scroll down to the lower right to see the weather
[14:49:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and click Edit Locations
[14:49:55 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I'm not really sure how to describe the issues but the first column of each row is the drag handle for that row
[14:52:43 EST(-0500)] <laurel> I tried it. now maybe try describe the issue?
[14:53:37 EST(-0500)] <athena> it doesn't really drag smoothly
[14:53:50 EST(-0500)] <athena> it sort of gets stuck, then moves again if you let go
[14:53:56 EST(-0500)] <athena> and then click again to make it drop
[14:55:04 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> thanks athena, yeah it doesn't really drag smoothly
[14:55:15 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> also following the example docs I could never get a drop indicator to appear
[14:57:24 EST(-0500)] <athena> i couldnt' figure out what's wrong with it either
[15:07:08 EST(-0500)] <laurel> interesting - I don't see this at all
[15:07:35 EST(-0500)] <laurel> no drop indicator, but it drags there just fine and I'm not seeing any "bumps"
[15:08:02 EST(-0500)] <laurel> browser, system??
[15:08:26 EST(-0500)] <athena> os x, firefox
[15:08:28 EST(-0500)] * athena has to run
[15:08:55 EST(-0500)] <laurel> i'm using XP and firefox 3.5
[15:09:08 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> and linux firefox
[15:09:20 EST(-0500)] <laurel> puzzling.
[15:09:25 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> I did see that it seems to do better on windows than linux or osx
[15:09:47 EST(-0500)] <laurel> our css guru is furiously working on something for the conference - due 10 minutes ago
[15:10:14 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> no problem
[15:10:19 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> it isn't a critical issue
[15:10:31 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> just something beyond my css skillset
[15:11:02 EST(-0500)] <laurel> justin might know about an issue already - but he is also stressing over this conference thingy
[15:11:14 EST(-0500)] <laurel> i'll make sure they look at it after they stop stressing.
[15:11:22 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> well today was just the first day that I had an easy site to show people
[15:11:28 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> so I'll just follow up next week
[15:17:14 EST(-0500)] <laurel> its a great example. Maybe post a jira and point people to it?
[15:18:14 EST(-0500)] <EricDalquist> yeah
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[16:39:00 EST(-0500)] <jamon> fj4000: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2009/04/07/support-for-ie6-its-all-about-accessibility/ pass it one to james too
[16:39:07 EST(-0500)] <jamon> s/one/on
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[18:19:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[18:19:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so Justin_o has implemented a fix for the hard-coded YouTube path
[18:19:40 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm going to check this out and take a look
[18:19:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We need to integrate swfobject
[18:19:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> which should fix the IE issue
[18:19:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I've never used it, but I think it'll probably be easy
[18:20:01 EST(-0500)] <michelled> ok
[18:20:03 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: would you like me to commit that fix now
[18:20:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: yes!
[18:20:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> that'll be great
[18:20:13 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i have to create a jira for it still so it will be one minute
[18:20:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm really sorry you got left alone on this
[18:20:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We'll get it done now together
[18:20:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> and then I'll go demo it (wink)
[18:20:33 EST(-0500)] <michelled> (smile)
[18:20:36 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: (smile)
[18:21:13 EST(-0500)] <michelled> next time call me Justin_o (wink)
[18:22:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this network is choking on the video when i check it out
[18:22:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i hate slow hotel networks
[18:22:27 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: okay... didn't want to spoil your day off if I didn't have too... i was going to try to look into it a bit longer but glad you and colinclark came online
[18:24:53 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay the videoPlayer hardcoded fix has been committed
[18:25:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> great
[18:26:45 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: is there a way to programatically stop the video player?
[18:27:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> stop, as opposed to pause?
[18:27:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> there is a pause() method on the video player
[18:27:44 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> well i suppose pause would work too, basically when the dialog is closed the video keeps playing so you can still hear the audio
[18:28:07 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i see the pause function now
[18:28:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: ^
[18:28:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so i'm guessing there's a dialog in here somewhere?
[18:28:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i still haven't finished checking out the massive videos
[18:29:17 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> (sad)
[18:29:33 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yah at least one of them is quite large
[18:31:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> still going
[18:32:39 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay... got the pause on close working
[18:32:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> great
[18:33:13 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: so how does this swfobject thing work
[18:33:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll take a look
[18:33:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> you'll find it in lib/swfobject/
[18:34:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And here's YouTube's documentation about their player's JS API
[18:34:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> in which they recommend using SWFObject
[18:34:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/js_api_reference.html
[18:34:28 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> thank you
[18:34:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Take a look at this: http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/js_api_reference.html#Embedding
[18:35:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this'll cut down a lot of code
[18:35:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> and make your last fix moot (wink)
[18:35:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it's this awful old-style javascript, just like swfupload
[18:35:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> where you give it an id of a thing
[18:35:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> and it replaces it with a flash object
[18:36:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'm writing up some code now
[18:36:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> does this mean i have to inject these scripts into the markup
[18:37:29 EST(-0500)] <michelled> I'm getting the funniest visual effect on the scrubber - it's inching along like a worm. getting shorter then longer as it moves
[18:37:48 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> really... i haven't seen that yet.. that is wierd
[18:38:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yack
[18:38:51 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: i'm jut copying the screencasts directory right?
[18:38:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: what browser, etc
[18:38:55 EST(-0500)] <michelled> it's subtle but the movement caught my eye
[18:39:16 EST(-0500)] <michelled> FF 3.5.5
[18:39:28 EST(-0500)] <michelled> jamon: ya, that would be great - just the ogg videos
[18:39:34 EST(-0500)] <jamon> ok
[18:40:40 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i've committed my change for pausing the video on closing the dialog
[18:41:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, I seem to have swfobject working
[18:41:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Do you have an IE instance up and running? I'll commit and you can test
[18:41:47 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: test those on fluidproject.org, should be all set
[18:42:30 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: you see the slider wiggling very slightly as it progresses?
[18:43:58 EST(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: ya, it's slight. it's only when I focus on the scrubber that I notice it growing and shrinking. it's probably a pixel or something tiny like that
[18:44:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I think I see it too
[18:44:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Must be something with jQuery UI's slider
[18:44:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe some animation, or just a style
[18:45:31 EST(-0500)] <michelled> jamon: it's working fine - thanks for updating the site (smile)
[18:45:48 EST(-0500)] <jamon> cool, glad to help michelled
[18:46:28 EST(-0500)] <jamon> i'm sort of lucky when i help in that i usually see everything coming together at the end of each stage, everything is always mostly done (smile)
[18:46:50 EST(-0500)] <michelled> (smile)
[18:47:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: ok, it's in
[18:47:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Can you test on IE?
[18:47:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure
[18:47:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: You'll appreciate how much simpler the code is, too
[18:48:11 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i'm still getting the error
[18:48:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> it has something to do with the appends
[18:48:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> what is the error?
[18:48:30 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Unexpected call to method or property accesss
[18:48:36 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> line 255 or jquery.js
[18:48:44 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> or should have been of
[18:49:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[18:49:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> hmm
[18:49:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this happens in any IE?
[18:49:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> can we use the IE 8 debugger and find out what's actually going on?
[18:50:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> and, does it happen on the final report?
[18:50:05 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm stepping through it right now
[18:50:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> k
[18:52:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> this player still hasn't been fully styled
[18:52:52 EST(-0500)] <michelled> it doesn't quite have the same polish as the rest of the site. which is looking snazzy
[18:52:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Ok, if you're not making any major progress on this, we can hard code it
[18:53:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> don't supply the youtube video as a source
[18:53:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> just dump it inside the video tag
[18:54:16 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: you mean in the markup itself
[18:54:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep
[18:54:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> just like in the final report
[18:55:19 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ah ... i see
[18:58:07 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: the final report seems to be working in ie... i'll see what happens if i do something similar to that here
[18:58:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> k
[19:06:00 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: it looks like the code is still trying to hit the append function even though i don't pass anything in for youtube
[19:06:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: You sure you don't have a video source with a mime type of "youtube"?
[19:06:48 EST(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: just a reminder that the finalreport is not using the same code base
[19:06:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That should be the only path into the code
[19:06:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: ?
[19:07:16 EST(-0500)] <michelled> we wanted to be careful with it so it's using a snapshot of the video player from when we finished the report
[19:07:21 EST(-0500)] <michelled> I can get you revision if you want
[19:07:22 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i deleted that from the sources array
[19:08:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: There's really no way into that code path other than through a source
[19:08:23 EST(-0500)] <michelled> r8240
[19:08:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: I have no idea what you're talking about
[19:09:30 EST(-0500)] <michelled> oh, sorry - what I meant is that any changes to the video player since r8240 would not be in the final report version of the video player
[19:09:37 EST(-0500)] <michelled> did that make sense?
[19:12:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: sure
[19:12:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But I don't quite follow why you're bringing it up
[19:12:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I don't mean to sound harsh, just completely baffled
[19:12:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[19:12:51 EST(-0500)] <michelled> lol
[19:13:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> just for the record, i hate this dialog box
[19:13:46 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i think she means that the fact that it works in the final report is not true test that it should work in this case since the videoplayer is different
[19:13:49 EST(-0500)] <michelled> just because we were using the same strategy that the final report uses because the video player works in ie for the final report. but of course, since it's not the exact code base we can't be sure that the strategy would work here.
[19:14:17 EST(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: any luck stepping through the code to see how we are getting into that code path?
[19:14:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: james wanted a lightbox, but there didn't seem to be enough time
[19:14:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Yeah, but I know what I changed on Saturday
[19:14:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> This is all my fault for not writing tests
[19:14:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but the point is, I know how the graceful degradation stuff works
[19:14:42 EST(-0500)] <michelled> also, Justin_o, did you remember to clear you cache?
[19:15:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it fundamentally works based on the fact that non-HTML 5 browsers ignore the video tag and show what's inside
[19:15:07 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: not much... i'm looking at the component and it's source is only the none youtube noes
[19:15:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so if there's markup inside, it'll work
[19:15:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> no matter whether the component put it there or if it was put in by the author
[19:15:22 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: i did clear my cache
[19:15:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> that seems to me to be the best case scenario
[19:15:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I just updated the index.html to import swfobject
[19:15:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> which isn't necessary for you, but just in case
[19:16:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'm going insane with the fact that there's no aptana project for this thing
[19:17:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Okay, so when I take out the youtube source, i get nothing in the video area at all
[19:17:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> which is probably a good sign
[19:17:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[19:18:03 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yep
[19:18:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: And when I add the YouTube markup, it seems to work just fine
[19:18:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So what was the problem you were encountering
[19:18:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ?
[19:19:41 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: ^
[19:20:09 EST(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: what browser are you using?
[19:20:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ff2
[19:20:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so not an exact replica
[19:20:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i wonder...
[19:20:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sorry made a mistake
[19:20:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ah
[19:20:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so is it working?
[19:20:42 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> well no
[19:20:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> what's up?
[19:20:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> it is breaking on the append for html5SourceTag
[19:20:55 EST(-0500)] <michelled> I've finally coaxed VMWare to start up and I'm looking at it IE7 now
[19:21:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> let me just double check something because i may have changed something by accident
[19:21:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> aha!
[19:21:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i wonder if the HTML 5 detection code is failing on IE
[19:22:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> if (typeof(window.HTMLMediaElement) === "undefined") {
[19:22:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Is it possible that window.HTMLMediaElement is not undefined on some versions of IE?
[19:24:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: I'm not convinced this dialog is really accessible