fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-09-30

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[08:28:01 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: Hello, can i get your advice on something
[08:28:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> of course
[08:28:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thanks
[08:28:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I'm trying to set up some jira filters for the design team to use so that they can track bugs which are design related
[08:29:09 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I'm thinking about adding a new component to jira called something like "Design Issue" what do you think about that or do you have another idea of how this may be done
[08:29:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> how do we determine what constitutes a design issue?
[08:30:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> seems to me most of the issues that get opened are related to design in some way
[08:30:52 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I was speaking to daphne about this and I think we agreed that the designers would have to monitor the jiras for the component they are responsible for and mark it themselves... the filters just provide a way for them to keep track of them
[08:31:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok, that makes sense
[08:31:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> so, they could use a tag like we've been using for iterations
[08:31:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> rather then a component.
[08:32:02 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> so a comment'
[08:32:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm just thinking that perhaps it doesn't make sense to have a design 'component'
[08:32:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, a comment
[08:32:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm pretty sure they can configure their watching of an issue too
[08:33:00 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thanks
[08:33:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I'll try to think of a good comment phrase that they can search for so that isn't likely to get false positives
[08:34:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> design-watched
[08:34:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> maybe?
[08:34:51 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> that's not bad
[08:35:44 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> to change topics a bit, I noticed that Eli filed a blocker yesterday and seems to have committed against this... do you know if it has been resolved and code reviewed yet?
[08:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, it has
[08:36:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I was just about to draw your attention to it - you beat me
[08:36:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (smile)
[08:36:47 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> basically the issue was that Eli's personal server was linked to in the file.
[08:36:59 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> he replaced the file with a newly downloaded one
[08:37:10 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> that's a funny mistake...
[08:37:13 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> the thing to note about this is that it's the file we were talking about removing yesterday
[08:37:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's the one that doesn't work
[08:37:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (sad)
[08:37:49 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> oh so it still doesn't work ? :|
[08:38:08 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> or that was the problem?
[08:38:19 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think it still doesn't work
[08:38:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Eli also added an explanation in the readme
[08:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and that file is not linked to or mentioned anywhere
[08:38:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we just ship it to confuse people (tongue)
[08:39:33 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> lol... well at least there's an explanation now
[08:42:54 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> do you know if there's a JIRA for actually creating the 0.5 release?
[08:43:09 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we need to do a few commits while generating the bundle
[08:48:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o ^
[08:49:19 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sorry... was working in jira there.. um... no i don't think there is... i'll go create one now
[08:49:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[08:52:24 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> FLUID-1638 allows for any committs necessary for the creation of the 0.5 release
[08:54:06 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: i added the blocker to create the release and closed the one Eli filed yesterday
[08:54:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[08:56:21 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> np
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[09:47:41 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Release Day is here!' set by anastasiac on 2008-09-30 09:47:41 EDT(-0400)
[09:48:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o, michelled: I'm testing one of the release bundle, and I'm noticing that some of the manual test pages haven't been updated to the latest API
[09:48:26 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ack
[09:48:29 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> not major things, just the structure of the options passed to the creator
[09:48:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I don't like the idea of releasing test files that don't work
[09:48:50 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> what are peoples' thoughts on committing fixes to these today?
[09:49:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think we should fix them. I know it's late but examples are the first place I look when I'm trying to use someone else's framework
[09:49:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I agree, personally
[09:49:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> how hard will it be to fix
[09:50:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> not hard at all - just a small change to the initialization script in the HTML, then manually test to see that it works
[09:50:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's not changes to the code, just the test files
[09:50:59 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... is it something we can add to FLUID-1636 or will it need it's own jira
[09:51:18 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> new JIRA, I'd say
[09:51:32 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm happy to create it, with a list of the specific files that are not working
[09:52:08 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thanks.. you probably will be able to write it better than i
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[10:31:23 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Release Day is here! Justin is still King!' set by anastasiac on 2008-09-30 10:31:23 EDT(-0400)
[10:31:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o: anastasiac noticed that the manual test for the keyboard a11y plugin is broken.
[10:32:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Part of the issue is that the API has been updated but the example has not
[10:32:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> the thing is, the API was updated for 0.4 so this has been broken for a long time
[10:32:50 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i don't really test the manual test pages, so i didn't notice
[10:33:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm not feel really confident about this change with neither Colin or Antranig around since they have been making changes to this code recently
[10:33:29 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> hmm... can we pull it from the release
[10:33:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I could spend some time working this out but I'm wondering if we're better off filing it and leaving it broken in the release
[10:34:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's a manual test so there is not the same level of polish expected. Generally I would want it to at least work but clearly no ones been looking at it in a long time.
[10:35:23 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> is the test linked to on the build site
[10:35:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, var options = {
[10:35:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> selectableElements: boxes,
[10:35:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> onSelect: selectCheckbox,
[10:35:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> onUnselect: unselectCheckbox,
[10:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> onLeaveContainer: leaveCheckboxes
[10:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> };
[10:36:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> oop, wrong buffer (smile)
[10:36:08 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/tests/jquery-tests/manual/menubar/MenuBarExample.html
[10:38:07 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i'm fine with leaving it broken, i don't think anyone's been looking at it. Maybe it should be documented somehow in the release that it doesn't work... or maybe point to the jira or something
[10:38:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok, I'll file a JIRA if there isn't one
[10:39:12 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay thanks
[10:46:19 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if we want to, we could remove the link from the build site until it's fixed
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[10:53:06 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac: that may be a good idea
[10:53:14 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> as long as we remember to fix it
[10:54:58 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o, jessm, anastasiac: I'm about to start tagging the release. any remaining issues?
[10:55:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o, FLUID-1640 has been filed against it, so we won't forget
[10:55:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> michelled, sounds good to me
[10:55:33 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: nothing here
[10:55:36 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
[10:55:41 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: nothing comes to mind
[10:55:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jhung: windows testing go ok?
[11:01:17 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> It's progressing. Manually testing inline edit.
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[11:13:31 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o, there are some JIRAs for 0.5 that are 'resolved' but not 'closed' - could you maybe look at any bugs you filed, and close anything appropriate?
[11:13:52 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure.. i'll take a look
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[11:17:33 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I only found 1 that I had filed, which was for fixed for the beta... I'll look through the others too
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[11:31:22 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> anastasiac: I have closed all of the resolved bugs that were reported or assigned to me
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[11:31:35 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> cool, thanks justin_o
[11:31:41 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> np
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[12:02:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> justin_o
[12:02:21 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> yes
[12:02:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> do you think you could download and test the two zip files linked to from the Current Release wiki page?
[12:03:34 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure...any particular OS you want me to test it on
[12:03:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> not really
[12:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> oaky
[12:03:51 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> windows, I guess
[12:03:54 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure...
[12:03:56 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> will do
[12:04:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> thankee, sai
[12:16:05 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> the minified version looks okay... i'm checking the other one now
[12:21:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> cool, we're almost there
[12:21:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm ready to open up the repository again once you give the okay
[12:35:50 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: is your jquery work documented anywhere that I could read?
[12:36:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled,anastasiac: I've tested both the minified and source versions of the release and they seem to be okay... I used FF3 and IE6 (Win XP) to test
[12:36:56 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> woohoo!
[12:36:59 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there's some info on the bug http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1406
[12:37:01 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> let the announcements fly!
[12:37:13 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there's also some on the jquery ui mailing list
[12:37:33 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> way to go y'all!
[12:37:52 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> also, there's a private conversation happening between myself, davidb and some other people interested in doing ARIA work in jQuery UI
[12:46:15 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Pinky_and_the_Brain
[12:46:25 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Pinky and the Brain' set by anastasiac on 2008-09-30 12:46:25 EDT(-0400)
[12:47:05 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: cool – if there's anything you think i'd find interesting (read, understandable) would you forward so I can read?
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[12:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> fyi – i'm going to miss standup I'll be in a 3 hr. culturAll mtg.
[12:53:03 EDT(-0400)] <jhung> k
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[13:10:24 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: Hey there. Ping me when you have a minute.
[13:10:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> nows good
[13:11:09 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> forgot to mention that I got an early start today and will be signing off at around 2:30
[13:13:55 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: ok, going to post image on the wiki
[13:14:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok
[13:15:29 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/VULab+SVN+Structure
[13:15:31 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> SO>
[13:15:35 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> I have little knowledge of svn
[13:15:41 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> but I think thats sort of the way I want it to flow.
[13:17:54 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm not quite understanding your pic
[13:18:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> do you want to hop on breeze again?
[13:18:31 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> yeah.
[13:18:47 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> I was writing some explanation.
[13:18:48 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> (smile)
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