fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-09-24

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[08:17:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena7> hey justin, do you know if the current portal trunk works in ff3?
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[10:47:32 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I am going to be rebuilding the daily build site now
[10:48:25 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> It has been rebuilt
[10:59:33 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> good morning Justin_o
[10:59:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> theclown: hello... good morning
[11:00:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> theclown: were you able to get FF3 working locally
[11:00:38 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> Justin_o, I have a version of a doh robot test file that "puts back" the use of doh.assert* functions. Yes to your question ^
[11:01:08 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> if you want to see it sometime, let me know
[11:01:22 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> and, I can email you a copy, if you like.
[11:01:53 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yes... i was just going to ask you that... please do e-mail it and whenever you have time i'd like to pop over and see it
[11:02:12 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> now is fine...if you have time now.
[11:02:22 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> sure... on my way
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[11:27:25 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> Justin_o: Hi
[11:27:40 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> I need a hand creating a sub-issue
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[11:29:45 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> any ideas?
[11:30:00 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> (sorry for the network issue)
[11:32:33 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> dov23: i think he'll be back in a bit – he's off talking robots with theclown
[11:33:11 EDT(-0400)] <theclown> jessm, dov23 right...just wrapping here.
[11:37:16 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> have to run for a bit
[11:37:41 EDT(-0400)] <dov23> Justin_o: please email me / the list with instructions on how to create a sub-issue for a JIRA issue
[11:38:18 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> dov23: i think it's already gone to list – i just couldn't find it myself
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[11:52:36 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> dov23: you might not have introduced yourself here yet – dov23 is David Makalsy from the VULab project – York U.
[11:53:33 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> dov23: hi I'll send out another e-mail to the list about it
[11:53:51 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: i found your reminder email to the list
[11:53:56 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> but couldn't find the original one
[11:53:59 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> sorry to make you dig
[11:54:36 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: no problem it should be easy enough to re-write it if I can't find it
[11:57:10 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: you might not have to
[11:57:15 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> does this get at it? http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/latest/subtasks_creating.html
[11:57:39 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> that's sub-task but i know you sent out an email about sub-issues
[11:58:24 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: essentially they are the same... so that should do... i'll just send out an e-mail with the link you provided and quick explanation of the differences... thanks
[11:58:57 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> many many thanks to you
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[12:57:08 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Hi y'all.
[12:57:23 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> I've created a Demos page on the fluid project website now (http://fluidproject.org/index.php/demos)
[12:58:17 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> and I removed links to the Springboards because they don't seem to fit the mold of a public demo (at least not in the same way majority of the other Fluid demos are).
[12:59:13 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Any compelling reason why the Springboard demos should be on that page?
[13:01:31 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> Fluid-1603, Fluid-1589 need code reviews
[13:14:48 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> jonathan_h: im thinking "demos" is vague a term for what the page can be
[13:14:56 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> since you have 2 things potentially going on
[13:15:02 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> real-world integration demos
[13:15:11 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> and simplified functionality demos
[13:15:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> the two would be nice to show off together
[13:15:44 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> what do you think?
[13:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o I took a look at Antranig's commit for 1603 and he reviewed mine
[13:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: thanks
[13:21:09 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm going to rebuild the daily build site now
[13:22:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> it has finished rebuilding
[13:29:14 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> jacobfarber: Good point. I guess the root quesiton is: who is the audience for these demos? Also, are integrators more likely to reference the Wiki for integration related info (like Springboards) rather than the website?
[13:33:12 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> i think any "demo" that shows what it does is great
[13:33:22 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> Im not sure...if you put both sprinboards and real-world demos togerther, I would think your hitting a wider audience than if it was just the real world examples, no?
[13:33:33 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> jessm I agree
[13:33:55 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> the audience might come in from the uPortal world and like to see a demo within that context, but someone unaffiliated with any of our partner projects might just want to see functionality – like the jquery library does
[13:34:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ...and broad adoption would be great, right?
[13:34:28 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> !
[13:36:07 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Ok. We'll put them in. My next question: what should we call them? "Springboard" doesn't sound terribly descriptive.
[13:37:04 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> It's a word not everyone may be familiar with.
[13:37:08 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> Thats more of an internal name, I think - perhaps something like Basic Demos
[13:37:23 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> and the real world stuff would be Advanced Demos?
[13:37:29 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> just a thought
[13:37:49 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> b/c thats the only diff, really. How complicated they are.
[13:38:01 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Maybe just calling the Springboards "Basic" is enough. Trying to capture the rest with a single word may be tricky.
[13:38:16 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> cool
[13:44:40 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Am I blind, or do the Springboard not exist inside the 0.5b1 package?
[13:45:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I think they were part of the sandbox then
[13:45:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm 100% sure though
[13:46:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> should be not 100%
[13:46:40 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> they're in the trunk, if thats what you mean
[13:47:02 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> src\webapp\fluid-components\html
[13:47:22 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Ok. So they're not officially part of a release yet. Will they be included in 0.5 stable?
[13:52:17 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ?
[13:52:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jonathan_h - I think it's in the beta
[13:53:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> jonathan_h, the springboards are not in a 'springboards' folder - that's them in the html folder of the 0.5beta bundle
[13:55:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I agree that calling them springboards are not clear.
[13:55:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jquery ui goes with 'functional demos' and 'real-world examples' I think
[13:55:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> does that work?
[13:58:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> added Fluid-1607 to the bug parade
[14:00:56 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> functional demos sounds nice.
[14:01:36 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> found the springboards too.
[14:01:39 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> ty
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[14:03:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> np
[14:21:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jonathan_h: we need your fly killing abilities in here - there are double the amount as there were yesterday
[14:22:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and the outside of the window is covered in mosquitos
[14:27:05 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> lol
[14:27:20 EDT(-0400)] <jonathan_h> Sounds like I need an apprentice. (smile)
[15:21:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm going to be rebuilding the daily build site now
[15:23:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> it's back up
[15:30:06 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> http://www.electricflyswatter.net/
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