fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-06-28

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[08:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o, jameswy, jhung: Next steps for Decapod 0.4
[08:50:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think Justin_o and I need to sit down and take a look at our tasking...
[08:51:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> see how we're doing after the first week of development, and decide what we can drop
[08:51:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Similarly, we should chat about CSS/HTML work and see how things are going
[08:51:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Then we'll re-set a date for 0.4 that lets us get a least a decent chunk of planned 0.4 functionality done
[08:51:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: that makes sense
[08:52:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And then we need to get it done so we can move on to 0.5 and integrated zafar's work
[08:52:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think we haven't done the awesomest job of communicating timeline changes and plans for release, which I'm sorry for
[08:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark, justin_o, jhung, jessm: After today, I'll be gone for the rest of week--should I prioritize my tasks today on the CSS/HTML work, or help with CSpace testing?
[08:52:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So Justin_o, I think we'll need your Kingly skills to organize releases and make sure word gets out better
[08:52:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: prioritize on Deacpod CSS/HTML work
[08:53:02 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay
[08:53:09 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: Roger that.
[08:53:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Unless michelled has complains
[08:53:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Where is she?
[08:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: she's here, but i'm afraid to alert her to your question
[08:53:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[08:54:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Tell her we miss her in the channel
[08:54:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I just checked with her, and it is fine to let james do the decapod stuff
[08:54:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, great
[08:54:56 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Great!
[08:55:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, so Justin_o I'm going to head into the office shortly
[08:55:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we can chat a bit
[08:55:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay... that's good
[08:55:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then we'll ping jameswy and jhung to talk about css/html
[08:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> this is good
[08:55:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> glad we have clarity and next steps
[08:55:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok. Colin i'll need to talk to you about some CFI stuff as well.
[08:55:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> k
[08:56:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: Give me 45 minutes to finish my email here and get into the office, then we can chat
[08:56:51 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> https://jameswy@bitbucket.org/jobara/decapod-ui
[08:57:10 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Sorry, mis-paste.
[08:59:00 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> justin_o: I want to kill the changes I made on the markup on my side--I think I did more harm than good. Is the easiest way to move my files to somewhere else and re-pull?
[08:59:28 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Or re-clone that particular directory? (/capture is the offender)
[08:59:35 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Can I even reclone subdirectories?
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[09:00:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamesy: did you commit your changes or not?
[09:01:24 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy: would it be easier to skype about it/
[09:01:25 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> justin_o: nope, they're just local changes
[09:01:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> ?
[09:01:28 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> sure
[09:01:31 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Skype me.
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[09:17:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: do you know if there is a way to remap user names in svn?
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[10:18:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: is this what you're after? http://home.introweb.nl/d/dodger/svnauthor.html
[10:18:28 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> or are you meaning permanently?
[10:27:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: i was thinking of something more permanent... I'm thinking about us moving and the fact that a lot of us use our e-mail address as the username
[10:32:28 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: might that not be a good time to switch to mercurial then?
[10:32:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: we thought you might say that
[10:33:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: i'm not entirely sure how important it is yet to have a consistent set of usernames
[10:36:22 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: that's a tough one, without new email addresses to migrate things to, i think it makes most sense to just leave it as is
[10:36:33 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> start committing using a different email address is all
[10:36:36 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> make sense?
[10:37:07 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i think it also helps to leave email addresses unchanged as part of an institutional record tbh
[10:48:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: that's an interesting point...
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[11:38:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: will colinclark be back?
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[11:44:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark, justin_o, jameswy: do you guys have time to chat?
[11:44:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o and jameswy are still at a reception for Jutta
[11:44:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> okay.
[11:45:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> They'll ping when they get back, I'm sure
[12:10:20 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung: I'm ready to chat whenever. Just finished lunch
[12:11:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> k. I'd like to chat and figure out where things are at. I feel a bit lost now that I've been away for 2 days on Decapod.
[12:11:44 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> I guess we'll wait for colinclark and justin_o when they're ready
[12:11:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yep
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[12:35:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy, jhung: just got back from my failied attempt at obtaining a metropass... the line up was extremely long
[12:36:52 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Ah, that sucks justin_o. I guess it's the extra build-up of people vying to get one after the G20 closure...
[12:37:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy: i think so... i'll have to try again in the morning i guess.. hope there's some left
[12:37:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anyways.. i'm free whenever everyone else is
[12:37:41 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok
[12:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Skype?
[12:37:49 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> yep
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[13:29:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy, let me know when you have your changes committed.
[13:34:40 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung: I've pushed the changes to my repo
[13:35:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy: thanks!
[13:36:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> What's your repo address?
[13:36:44 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung: http://bitbucket.org/jameswy/decapod-ui
[14:09:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey jameswy and jhung and anyone else who's interested in decapod
[14:10:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o and I were just chatting about dates for 0.4
[14:12:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> We came up with a couple ideas for dates
[14:12:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Giving ourselves somewhere in the ballpark of 10 days to wrap up 0.4 features
[14:12:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: You still have your calendar open?
[14:12:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Do you want to walk us through it?
[14:12:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure
[14:15:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> so basically we are looking at bug parade starting on July 14
[14:16:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> code freeze starting on July 19
[14:16:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> which would give us 4 days for testing and releasing with the release expected out on July 22
[14:16:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok
[14:17:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> that's only 3 days for bug parade though
[14:18:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yeah. Should be okay though.
[14:18:35 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> So, in essence, two weeks of coding after the long weekend?
[14:19:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> more like 1.5
[14:19:30 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i see... including bug parade, yes
[14:19:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The other scenario we considered was a slightly later release, right Justin_o?
[14:19:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> July 27 instead?
[14:19:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes
[14:19:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But the risk there is that we're leaving less time for 0.5, which is still quite indeterminate
[14:20:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And we've also got the distraction of the move in there
[14:20:21 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> guys, colinclark, Justin_o, we also have a physical server more to take into consideration
[14:20:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: when is that going to happen?
[14:20:51 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o: armin and me have to work that out
[14:21:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> any rough guesses?
[14:21:35 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> Justin_o, colinclark, right around that july 27 you're mentioning i think
[14:22:01 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i guess it can happen any time, but we have to figure out where the servers are going to be temporarily housed at ocad
[14:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Well, perhaps that July 22 date is best
[14:23:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what do you think, jameswy and jhung?
[14:24:16 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Let's aim for that and see how we manage.
[14:24:17 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: I think it's doable.
[14:25:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I don't really want to slip past this release, so I want us to feel confident that it's a decent date
[14:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It will mean we'll have to toss some functionality, right Justin_o?
[14:25:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes... basically we will just be able to get the calibration work done
[14:26:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> and hopefully some of those bug fixes if we haven't created too many new ones
[14:26:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: would this mean that Export gets pushed to 0.5? At least there's still export functionality already from 0.3.
[14:27:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: yes.. that seems to be the case
[14:28:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> okay. Not great, but I guess we need to cut somewhere.
[14:28:13 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Calibration is priority.
[14:29:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: what do you think?
[14:29:24 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> This all sounds reasonable to me.
[14:29:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
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[14:36:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, jameswy, jhung: okay so i think we'll try to go with July 22nd.. i'll send a message out to the decapod list with the revised dates
[14:36:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> any last questions or objections?
[14:36:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok. Can you update the wiki and the calendar too while you do that?
[14:36:54 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Let's make this happen,
[14:41:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> sure... will do
[14:51:48 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy, jhung: can you double check the calendar and the wiki and make sure the dates are correct
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[14:53:41 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> justin_o: looks right to me.
[14:53:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy: thanks
[15:06:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, jhung, jameswy: wiki and calendar have been updated, and an e-mail sent to the decapod list with the updated dates for the 0.4 release
[15:07:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> excellent, thanks
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[15:56:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy, jhung1: i've made a change to the callibration ui. Basically i've moved the sample data into json files so it does not sit on the html page anymore... This means that if you want to see different error messages for the cameraMessage page you would change the status in the cameras.json file in the data directory
[15:57:27 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Justin_o: roger that. good to know.
[15:57:35 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Is your repo already updated with this?
[16:06:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy: yes
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[17:23:50 CDT(-0500)] <bsparks> nm, reRender
[17:24:18 CDT(-0500)] <bsparks> the docs indicated that it was going to ignore the node if I supplied templates, but it looks like it doesn't
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