fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-06-15

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[08:31:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ping
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[08:51:15 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> hi jessm
[08:54:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: when can we check in today?
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[08:56:57 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: i think that's the plan with bert and iris, yeah
[08:57:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: no specific time yet, eh?
[08:57:19 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i'll ping iris about it
[08:57:30 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ok thank, i didn't see either of them when i was downstairs
[08:58:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jamon: i just saw bert downstairs a couple minutes ago, he was just walking back into his office
[08:58:21 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ah thanks Justin_o, i guess i'm going hunting for a bert then
[08:58:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> (smile)
[09:00:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: iris is working from home with a sick pooper today (sad)
[09:01:07 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ah i see
[09:01:13 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: she says afternoon mtg.
[09:01:22 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> ok, via skype?
[09:02:08 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> jessm: 14-15:30 isn't good for me though
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[12:04:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ping
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[13:18:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: ok, my last commit is in
[13:19:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess we're down to tagging, packaging, and posting Engage 0.3 to the web site
[13:19:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yep... almost done
[13:19:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Anything we're forgetting?
[13:19:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i don't think so
[13:39:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o, jessm, jameswy: http://fluidengage.org/index_0.3.html
[13:39:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Seem ok?
[13:40:31 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: looks good to me (no webkit requirement disclaimer?)
[13:40:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, yes
[13:41:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> sorry
[14:30:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm, jameswy, Justin_o: http://fluidengage.org/index_0.3.html
[14:30:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Better now?
[14:31:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Whitespace, styling, etc. good too?
[14:31:43 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: looking good. Any way to make the disclaimer a bit smaller? (it has the same visual significance as the text above)
[14:31:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Sure. It's 8 pt text now
[14:32:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How much smaller shall we go?
[14:32:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I wondered about greyness to make it slightly less significant, as you say
[14:32:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But smaller is fine too
[14:33:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think it looks fine... i'm not sure it will be readable if it goes smaller
[14:33:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but i can see jameswy point
[14:33:27 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: Ah, the 8 pt is good. Maybe even 10 pt. Slightly greyer would be good too. (for some reason it showed up as the same text size as text above initially)
[14:33:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Weird
[14:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: jameswy Justin_o: saweet
[14:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> that happened to me too, but i thought it was just my machine
[14:34:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Should I worry?
[14:34:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Was it a caching thing?
[14:34:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: probably cached the style sheet
[14:35:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How's that greyness, jameswy?
[14:35:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> If I were talking with jessm, it would be grayness
[14:36:24 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: Maybe a bit too dark--not enough contrast with the background. Maybe somewhere in between the first and second attempts?
[14:36:34 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> is there a grey gray thing?
[14:37:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: So that was #999999...
[14:37:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll start going all hex on us
[14:37:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: I just like to use regional terminology if possible
[14:37:29 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: maybe #CCCCCC?
[14:37:42 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: grey and gray always confused me – is gray USA?
[14:37:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's a lot of Cs
[14:37:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Yep, that's right
[14:38:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: i kind of liked it white
[14:38:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: Refresh for Cs
[14:38:33 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> but don't listen to me
[14:38:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I just like being Junior Jacob
[14:38:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You could tell me to change it a hundred times, and it would rock
[14:38:50 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: also, this is intensely Apple nerdy, but I think it's "iPod touch" instead of "iPod Touch"
[14:38:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "I know hex codes for colours!"
[14:39:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh dear
[14:39:08 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i didn't even know that!
[14:39:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was going to call it IPOD
[14:39:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[14:39:29 CDT(-0500)] * jameswy 's heart broke.
[14:40:00 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark, jessm: I think the Cs look right for balance
[14:40:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: Refresh for brand correctness
[14:40:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i feel more balanced knowing they're c's and that "touch" is lowercase now
[14:40:58 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> we do make pretty things
[14:41:03 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: thumbs up
[14:41:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, jameswy: now that we are into the apple nerdiness portion, should we add iPad (smile)
[14:41:47 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> how does our app look on iPad?
[14:42:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yack
[14:42:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ask jameswy and Justin_o
[14:42:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> they're the hipsters
[14:42:26 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: it runs uber-fast on the iPad
[14:42:35 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: but, looks horrible
[14:42:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> While we're at it, we should probably test the site itself on iPhone and iPad
[14:42:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Horrible, as in, wide?
[14:42:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: good point
[14:42:53 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Yeah, way wide.
[14:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Everyone get out their Apple devices!
[14:43:17 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jessm: Can I design Engage for iPad? (smile)
[14:43:52 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jameswy: asking questions is risky – it invites an answer
[14:43:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[14:44:12 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: ping – you back?
[14:44:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay... played with my iPad and the page looks good
[14:45:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Page looks good on my stupid phone
[14:45:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, unless anyone else has changes, I'll launch the new page
[14:45:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And we'll have 0.3 officially advertised on our site
[14:46:36 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: do we wnat to say 0.3?
[14:46:42 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: what about just download engage
[14:46:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hmm
[14:46:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I don't mind either way
[14:46:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What's the rationale?
[14:47:29 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> download engage will live longer than 0.3
[14:47:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And you want to avoid having to update the page each time?
[14:47:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Each time we cut a release, I mean
[14:48:00 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yeah, i just wonder what it adds at this point
[14:48:10 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> but i could easily be convinced it's important
[14:48:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess it tells you what you are downloading
[14:48:14 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> meh, leave it
[14:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But I'm totally easy
[14:48:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's a split-second change for me to make
[14:48:28 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> it's good
[14:48:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> k'
[14:48:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Here comes the switch
[14:49:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: just checked it on safari, looks good
[14:49:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> great
[14:49:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: so we're done with Engage 0.3 then
[14:49:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> ?
[14:49:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Yep
[14:49:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Huge props to you for all that work
[14:49:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You rule!
[14:50:30 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks.. .you too
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