fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-08-25

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[11:27:32 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> Hello all.
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[13:15:06 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: let me know when your around, wanted to talk about the lightbox component
[13:15:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o_> For those able to help with testing please visit http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Current+Needs
[13:15:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> lessthanzero: I'm here now
[13:16:28 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o_> Currently there are two populated task lists. One is unassigned. If you are can help please let me know which ones you would like to do and I'll create a task list for you or you can create your own and populate it with the tasks you would like to do.
[13:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: hola! I just wanted to learn more about the component and see if fills my need.
[13:17:29 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> michelled: damn, I have another phone call I need to get to. I'll drop a message here in 20min?
[13:17:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sure
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[13:37:28 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac: is there a demo for undo?
[13:37:52 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no - there is a JIRA to add it to our examples, but it's not done yet
[13:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1109
[13:38:22 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> is it in a manual test, or something?
[13:38:53 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, it's been implemented on some of the fields on the manual test page
[13:39:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/tests/fluid-tests/manual/inline-edit/InlineEdit.html
[13:39:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> first line, second last line (at least)
[13:40:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
[13:43:58 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o_> lessthanzero: quick question about vulab... when it says it records the user's interaction, does it just record the person using it or also what they are doing on the screen.
[13:44:29 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> it records their screen and any audio if a microphone is present.
[13:44:37 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> and tracks mouse movement and clicks.
[13:47:07 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o_> wow.. that's pretty good.. thanks for the information
[13:47:15 EDT(-0400)] <lessthanzero> justin_o_: no problem.
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[13:51:51 EDT(-0400)] <simonwang> Hi micheeled
[14:02:53 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anyone there using svn inside Aptana on a Mac who might be able to help me with a problem that I'm having?
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[14:05:35 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> here is the problem, everything was working fine until I needed to remove some files, since they were invisible files (at least invisible to Aptana) I used svn from the command line in the terminal... not when I try to use svn from inside Aptana I get the following error:
[14:06:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> org.tigris.subversion.javahl.ClientException: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy...
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[14:12:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: simonwang was pinging you earlier. ^
[14:12:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'll see if I can give you a hand after this meeting.
[14:12:58 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> cool
[14:13:53 EDT(-0400)] <simonwang> Hi colinclark, I need access to the fluid unix server to set up the test environment.
[14:14:10 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Hi simonwang
[14:14:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> simonwang: michelled or anastasiac are probably best to help you with that. Glad to hear you're making progress with getting uP trunk setup.
[14:14:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I've sent a message to our system administrator and I'm waiting to hear back
[14:14:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark: simonwang was ready on Friday - I've been holding him up
[14:15:16 EDT(-0400)] <simonwang> ok, let me know when it is ready.
[14:15:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I will!
[14:16:39 EDT(-0400)] <simonwang> micheeled: I changed my local CSS file for fluid-1186 issue, and the "bugs" disappeared. Could you take a look at the comment I added?
[14:21:13 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> colinclark: thks.... I'll be here for another hour
[14:22:35 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> simonwang: I'll take a look soon - thanks for looking into the issue
[14:23:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: Okay, let's play the version game. From your terminal: "svn --version"
[14:23:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I believe 1.4.4 should have shipped with Leopard.
[14:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> svn, version 1.5.1 (r32289)
[14:24:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Aha.
[14:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Looks like you've got a very new version. Subversion 1.5 shipped fairly recently, and has some compatibility changes with previous versions.
[14:24:40 EDT(-0400)] <simonwang> micheeled: you're welcome. By the way, could you help to see if justin has any other issues for me before the server is ready?
[14:24:55 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> do I need to somehow "roll back"....
[14:25:12 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> as I said, I was fine until I used the terminal then I was screwed
[14:25:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm assuming you're running subclipse version 1.2.2? Go to Help > Software Updates > Manage Configuration.
[14:26:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Then open the Aptana Studio triangle and you should see your subclipse version.
[14:26:33 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> 1.2.4
[14:26:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> simonwang: justin will be back later this afternoon. Feel free to ask him about other bugs.
[14:26:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> simonwang: this is what justin_o said earlier: For those able to help with testing please visit http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Current+Needs
[14:26:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> [1:15pm] michelled: lessthanzero: I'm here now
[14:26:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> [1:16pm] justin_o_: Currently there are two populated task lists. One is unassigned. If you are can help please let me know which ones you would like to do and I'll create a task list for you or you can create your own and populate it with the tasks you would like to do.
[14:27:13 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> oops - not the second line
[14:27:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[14:27:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> perhaps there is something there you could help out with?
[14:28:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: Let me check to see if there's a version of subclipse that will work with svn 1.5...
[14:30:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: Looks like you might be okay.
[14:30:10 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> listening
[14:30:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> one sec...
[14:30:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm just confirming with my own aptana
[14:31:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: Subclipse 1.4.x is compatible with Subversion 1.5...
[14:31:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But Aptana's upgrade server seems to be set up for the previous version.
[14:32:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, I'll walk you through the process of upgrading.
[14:32:12 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> thks
[14:32:17 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> listening
[14:32:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm not running svn 1.5, so let's keep our fingers crossed.
[14:32:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Go to Help > Software Updates > Find and Install...
[14:32:52 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I can't be any worse off than I am now
[14:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yep
[14:33:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Choose "Search for new features to be install"
[14:33:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Click "New Remote Site..."
[14:33:52 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yep
[14:34:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Call it "Subclipse 1.4.x update site"
[14:34:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> URL is http://subclipse.tigris.org/update_1.4.x
[14:34:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And then choose Finish.
[14:34:29 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ok
[14:34:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I can't follow along from here, but hopefully you'll get pushed Subclipse 1.4.
[14:34:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And hopefully it will replace the older version.
[14:34:58 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And hopefully it will play nice with your repository.
[14:35:26 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> hmm, I get an error in the Updates window...
[14:35:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: What are you seeing?
[14:35:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Should we do iChat screensharing?
[14:36:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I just checked the svn website, and your 1.5 will be happily compatible with our older 1.4 server, which is good.
[14:36:38 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Subclipse Integration for Mylyn 3.x (Optional) (3.0.0) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.core (3.0.0), or compatable.
[14:36:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> urg
[14:36:46 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yes, let's go to iChat
[14:36:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> k
[14:43:32 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> michelled: what can I do to get the Inline Edit demo into builds.fluidproject.org?
[14:43:39 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> it's all checked in
[14:43:57 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> inline-edit/section-info
[15:04:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So just in case anyone was following the thread about Subclipse and svn 1.5, Eli and I managed to get it working by simply turning off the option subclipse integration with Mylyn, since he didn't have it installed.
[15:04:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: I assume it's as simple as seeing if anastasiac feels like rebuilding the daily build.
[15:05:09 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, ecochran: anyone on the team can rebuild the daily build
[15:05:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Ooh!
[15:05:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm not sure I realized that.
[15:05:30 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> though it's polite to double-check with testers, etc to see that it's not being used for testing at the moment
[15:05:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Can ecochran rebuild the daily build?
[15:05:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Or is the password secret?
[15:06:05 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> there is a login with the 'regular' team user id and password that has priviledges to rebuild
[15:06:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I don't suppose we'd want everyone rebuilding our daily build.
[15:06:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> aha
[15:06:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> no, not everyone
[15:06:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if ecochran doesn't know the magic words, I can tell him
[15:06:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So if ecochran is really nice, he might get the super-secret password.
[15:07:35 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ecochran, I'll rebuild it for now, since there's a separate very-super-secret password necessary to put a link onto build.fluidproject.org, and I can't give that one out
[15:09:48 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ecochran, build.fluidproject.org now has a link to the bSpace section info demo
[15:12:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> by the way, ecochran, when I view this demo, there's no hover highlight. Is that intentional??
[15:14:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: I think it's still under development.
[15:15:02 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ok, I suspected that - just thought I'd check
[15:15:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He's working off this wireframe from Allison:
[15:15:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Inline+Edit+Storyboard+-+Allow+user+to+edit+simple+text
[15:22:49 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> anastasiac, colinclark : thank you, thank you...
[15:23:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> and I just fixed the hover, and now I have to run (after I check in the hover)
[15:23:34 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ecochran, let me know if you want the magic word to redeploy the nightly build
[15:23:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: It's coming along nicely. Have a great afternoon with Hannah.
[15:24:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac is the keep of magic words
[15:24:22 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ummm.... the problem with secrets is that one then has responsabilities
[15:24:23 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac is magic...
[15:24:38 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> with great power comes great responsibility...
[15:24:45 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark said a magic word today in a meeting and Jess was taken aback.
[15:24:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark>
[15:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> did you turn Jess into a frog?
[15:25:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> fortunately not
[15:25:53 EDT(-0400)] * jessm listens...
[15:26:54 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> colinclark: did you check out my error dialog with the coolio mozilla rounded corners?
[15:27:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: No! Where is it?
[15:27:25 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> click on any of the links
[15:27:29 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark loves rounded corners.
[15:27:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ooh!
[15:27:57 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Rounded corners rule!' set by colinclark on 2008-08-25 15:27:57 EDT(-0400)
[15:28:07 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> eric meyer taught me how!
[15:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> they don't work in IE
[15:28:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> A thing of beauty.
[15:28:19 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> stupid IE
[15:28:34 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> progressive enhancemenrt
[15:28:38 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> gotta go
[15:46:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jacobfarber: Here's the URL to the Tabs example from Fearless JavaScript:
[15:46:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> https://source.fluidproject.org/svn/sandbox/javascript-workshop/trunk/
[15:46:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> thanks!
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[16:21:16 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> jacobfarber: you riding shotgun today?
[16:21:33 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> if you dont mind, sure!
[16:21:50 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> jacobfarber: my pleasure. my call is over at 4:30... can you join me after that?
[16:21:57 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> absolutely
[16:22:12 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> shibby
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[16:30:27 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> jacobfarber: give me another 10?
[16:30:41 EDT(-0400)] <davidb> sorry all i should take this offline
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