fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-08-01

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[09:19:21 EDT(-0400)] * Bosmon (n=Antranig@ginger.caret.cam.ac.uk) has joined #fluid-work
[09:19:36 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ping
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[10:33:37 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> FELDERCARB!
[10:33:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> First draft of "Fluid Component API" is up here:
[10:33:56 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Component+API
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[10:59:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> colinclark: Isn't there an option in Firebug to "break on all errors"?
[11:00:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I don't seem to find it any more...
[11:02:46 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: there is, yes.
[11:02:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have to admit I can't remember.
[11:03:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jacobfarber: Do you remember how to turn this feature on in FireBug?
[11:03:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac showed me how once, but she's busy buying a house right now. (smile)
[11:03:43 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> not sure....let me take a peek
[11:03:49 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok
[11:03:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> so go into the script tab
[11:04:02 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> on the options, 1st one
[11:04:07 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> should be break on all errors
[11:04:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon: ^
[11:05:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Somehow it is not there
[11:05:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> You mean the "Options" dropdown at the far right?
[11:05:29 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> which v of firebug do you have?
[11:05:35 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> oh no...not that one
[11:05:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> ????/
[11:05:54 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> where you have the core tabs (console, net, etc)
[11:05:58 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> there is the script one
[11:06:02 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> immediately in that pane
[11:06:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> aaah
[11:06:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> The 2nd options tab
[11:06:10 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> there is a options droplist on the right
[11:06:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I see it now
[11:06:16 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Thanks jacobfarber
[11:06:17 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> (smile)
[11:06:23 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> maybe diff. versions
[11:06:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Hmm
[11:06:33 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> i have 1.2.0b7
[11:06:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Infuriatingly it doesn't seem to stop in jqunit....
[11:06:54 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok, michelle and i saw this
[11:06:58 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> are you usng windows?
[11:07:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> yes
[11:07:03 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok
[11:07:06 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> me too, same error
[11:07:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Could you resolve it?
[11:07:14 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> go to your script tab again
[11:07:48 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> near "inspect" + "all" at the top
[11:07:54 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> there is another link
[11:08:06 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> which, when clicked, displays all loaded scripts in the page
[11:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Yes
[11:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> do yo usee it?
[11:08:12 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok
[11:08:13 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I do
[11:08:15 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> if yo uclick it
[11:08:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> do you see a few duplicates?
[11:08:41 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> when I clicked it on the tests pages
[11:08:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> No
[11:08:48 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> i saw 2 of every script
[11:08:56 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> I see just one of everything...
[11:09:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> What i get is this stupid explosion from inside jQuery
[11:09:20 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> "Could not convert JavaScript argument arg 0 [nsIDOMViewCSS.getComputedStyle]"
[11:09:25 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> "NS_ERROR_XPC_BAD_CONVERT_JS"
[11:09:27 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ew
[11:10:21 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> sounds like those xul errors js throws when there is a syntax problem or a type conversion problem
[11:11:44 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> I dont think there is a way to break o nthose errors other than to play through the debugger line by line until boom
[11:12:35 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Indeed....
[11:24:55 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> OK
[11:24:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> For future reference
[11:25:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> This fucking idiocy is caused by the default JQuery "behaviour" when returns the bloody document node for a search which returns nothing
[11:25:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> Who knows in HELL why they decided on this policy....
[11:25:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> If you attempt to evalute a CSS property on this node, you get this explosion
[11:27:45 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> Bosmon: b/c your operating on nothing?
[11:27:56 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon> No, because you are operating on the bloody document!
[11:28:24 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ech
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[11:38:39 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ecochran: pls dont let me forget our meet. At the moment, I have no calendar software, so I have no reminders
[11:39:35 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> jacobfarber: we had said 1pm your time, if I remember, but now we have the retrospective so I think that we'll have to go later
[11:40:06 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> shall we meet right after the Retrospective?
[11:40:24 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> sounds greta
[11:40:25 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Should be 10:30 PST, 1:30 your time
[11:40:28 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> *great
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[11:40:32 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> cool
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[11:40:41 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> 1:30 my time??
[11:41:00 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> is my math wrong?
[11:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> no, your right
[11:41:12 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> my bad
[11:41:19 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> are you on a Mac?
[11:41:33 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> jacobfarber: ^
[11:41:42 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> no (sad)
[11:41:48 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> i have to get skype or someting
[11:42:18 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> we can meet in Breeze
[11:42:39 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok, good idea
[11:43:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jacobfarber, ecochran: I usually check the Fluid Google calendar before scheduling stuff. you could put stuff in there if you want to.
[11:43:52 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I don't think that I have permissions for the Fluid Google calendar, but maybe I do... if so, I've never been told
[11:45:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=u4ts3bmnc6k144uj2oh3aiuumo%40group.calendar.google.com&amp;ctz=America/Toronto
[11:45:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> oh, you should! let me look
[12:03:35 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Release+Notes+for+Fluid+Infusion+0.4
[12:04:37 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> michelled: the question is... do I have access as my Google user, or as eli@media...
[12:07:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> at your google user ecochran
[12:08:07 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> my google user is elicochran
[12:09:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes
[12:17:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Did you ever find that fluid.utils.computeAbsolutePosition() is actually being used by anything?
[12:17:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I remember you were looking at it the other day. We should ask Bosmon about it when he gets back.
[12:18:12 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I was wondering about that too
[12:18:49 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I didn't add it to the Release Notes because I wasn't sure of it's function
[12:18:58 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> or I should say usage
[12:20:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ecochran: It doesn't appear to be used.
[12:20:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I remember michelled was reviewing it for licensing issues.
[12:20:54 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I'm getting that... (smile)
[12:21:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark: I didn't actually review the licensing for it and I didn't check if it was used.
[12:22:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: Aha.
[12:22:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll check with Bosmon, but I'll toast it if he doesn't have a plan for it.
[12:22:20 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok
[14:05:57 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ecochran: can we discuss?
[14:06:14 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> ?
[14:08:04 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> our css/html packaging discussion
[14:08:16 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> yes
[14:08:31 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> sounds like Daphne, Colin and Jess may be taking breeze
[14:08:36 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> they are
[14:08:45 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> so what do you think we should use?
[14:08:48 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> we may need to go to the overflow room
[14:08:58 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> let me see if I can remember the URL
[14:09:34 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> http://breeze.yorku.ca/fluidoverflow?launcher=false
[14:12:07 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> ok
[14:12:22 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> im there....
[14:14:29 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I can't move that pane that is in the middle because I'm not an admin
[14:14:55 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> neither am I (sad)
[14:15:08 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> do you have Skype?
[14:15:20 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> Or I can call you
[14:15:27 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I have Skype out
[14:15:44 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> OK, why don't you get Skype
[14:15:53 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I'll send you my username in a moment
[14:17:35 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> k
[14:21:19 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> username: father_mojo
[14:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> I'll be back in 2 min
[14:21:33 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> just testin gmy mic
[14:21:41 EDT(-0400)] <ecochran> need to take a short walk
[14:22:19 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> sure
[14:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <jacobfarber> by the time you come back, i;ll have skype up and running and waiting
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