fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-05-16

[08:02:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: good morning..

[08:02:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: here's an update on the blockers for decapod

[08:02:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-244 *** In Progress *** - Jon

[08:02:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-247 *** Needs Commit ***

[08:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-257 *** In Progress *** - Justin

[08:02:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-258

[08:02:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-236

[08:02:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-253

[08:02:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-259

[08:03:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I think that's everything.. please let me know if there is anything missing

[08:06:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: also have you thought of something to change the "Export Progress" to.. maybe "Generating PDF" or something like that

[08:49:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> "It remains an open question whether or not Zuckerberg even wants to be an ad company because they're talking about other things like trying to connect people."

[08:50:06 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Quite ironic that Mark Zuckerberg's biggest perceived problem is that he's not a big enough bastard : P

[08:52:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: "Creating PDF" perhaps.

[08:55:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: I'm doing a little house cleaning on the CSS and then I'm ready to push up.

[09:00:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sounds good thanks.. i'll change it to the "Creating PDF" too.. although i'm noticing some inconsistencies between the local and served versions when displaying the text… not sure why that is

[09:01:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: hmmm. Perhaps there are string still hard coded in the HTML when served locally.

[09:02:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: could be, i'll have to look through the code more closely though.. since on a first pass everything looked the same

[09:26:10 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: just sent an email to the steering committee re: the content list you gave me

[09:26:24 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: the news item announcing the launch has a space before the 'O' in OCAD U

[09:27:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: that news item has a when and where at the end – not clear what they're for

[09:28:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> interesting. good point,jessm. I'll try to make that more clear

[09:28:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> keep me up to date on any responses from the partners

[09:28:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> please

[09:28:39 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> of course

[09:28:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> i said i needed responses by friday

[09:28:59 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> we'll see what that yields

[09:29:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, is the announcement better now?

[09:29:37 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yep

[09:30:19 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: can you check in with jvass and mhairi re: length of the articles on that front page?

[09:30:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> sure, jessm

[09:33:23 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, cindyli, alexn: the content of the IDI site is out of my hands for now, so I'll start working on some of the high-priority styling tasks. I'll start with high-contrast theme issues, unless anyone has another suggestion

[09:35:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: it's for cases like this that I'm glad we switched to a decentralized version control system http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=EL_g0tyaIeE

[09:38:35 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, that's excellent

[09:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Justin_o: I'm going to start looking at DECA-245 and DECA-246 since they're both similar. (re: buttons not looking disabled)

[09:46:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. sounds good

[09:46:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm trying to figure out why these things are working served but not local… are you noticing the same issue by the way?

[09:46:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> you can see if from the download link

[09:47:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> which strings?

[09:49:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: for example "Download Link" vs "Download PDF"

[09:50:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: never mind.. i was running an old version locally.. was in the wrong repo (sad)

[09:50:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> (tongue)

[09:50:48 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ^there's a Jira for that.

[09:51:31 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: (smile)

[09:52:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I should write one. "Ensure you use correct version of Decapod when debugging"

[09:52:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> (big grin)

[09:53:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: by the way did you push up your changes?

[09:54:30 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yep

[09:54:48 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay.. after i get DECA-257 up i'll merge in your changes

[09:54:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok.

[10:04:44 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: ping

[10:05:00 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, pong

[10:05:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> skype

[10:10:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: did you intend to remove the background styling from the export options

[10:10:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: the portion that slides out has the same background as the top portion

[10:11:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> sorry.. not the top protion.. as the background of the rest of the page

[10:11:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: that's a mistake.

[10:11:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'll fix that.

[10:12:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: does it look like that on your too or is it just something with my merge?

[10:12:50 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> No. I accidentally cut it and didn't paste it back. (tongue)

[10:15:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'll push up that fix when I push up fixes for DECA 245 and 246

[10:15:34 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> avtar: hi avtar - thanks for switching the server ports

[10:17:07 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> avtar: so my key on the mac got messed up

[10:17:16 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: logo is still chopped off in FF 12

[10:17:28 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> key = ssh key

[10:17:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, thanks for checking. I'll check with other people here in the lab

[10:18:34 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> kasper: do you want me to add a new key?

[10:18:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. thanks.. good to know.. i'm now sure how you have it looking now.. but i think it might be cool if it looked inset.. as though it were sliding out from under the description

[10:18:57 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> avtar: yeah, that'd be great

[10:19:38 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> avtar: it'll have to be the key of my linux machine, as my mac for some reason wont connect to the internet here at wsis

[10:20:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: also i'm going to start in on DECA-258 now

[10:20:28 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> avtar: could you ping my in a private irc chat – not sure how to do private conversation in this client

[10:20:37 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> sure

[10:23:33 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: it is inset. (big grin)

[10:23:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> it's very subtle.

[10:23:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: cool..

[10:27:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: from our conversation the other day.. i've filed http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4709 about invokers not being available for to listeners.. feel free to update the jira as needed

[10:28:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Thanks

[10:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'll link this to FLUID-4330 as I mentioned

[10:29:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: i've linked it to FLUID-4334

[10:29:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok... they are all linked really

[10:29:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But 4330 should be the "headline issue"

[10:30:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: ah okay.. since it's what's needed to actually fix these?

[11:05:04 CDT(-0500)] <boyan> Bosmon, colinclark, kasper: are you coming for an architecture meeting?

[11:06:28 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> boyan - indeed

[11:08:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> on my way

[11:30:45 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> boyan, Bosmon, colinclark: damn wsis internet is blocking adobe it seems

[11:30:53 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> so cant join architecture call

[11:31:04 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> gave most updates in a private mail yesterday

[11:31:29 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> we just got the phone working and both UIO and preferences server works from here

[11:31:42 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's awesome, kasper

[12:15:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: just about ready to push up fixes for DECA-245/246

[13:12:33 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: ayt?

[13:13:07 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hello there cindyli!

[13:13:20 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> hi

[13:13:35 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> one issue we found with UIO: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4708

[13:13:43 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, I heard about it from michelled

[13:13:46 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> What seems to be the cause?

[13:14:03 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> it's 'cuz the UIO panel hiding is using height: 0 rather than display: none

[13:14:11 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli - I see

[13:14:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's awkward, since that detail was essential to one of the anti-jumping fixes

[13:14:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> i wonder if there's a reason that we cannot have dipsplay:none there

[13:14:29 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ah i see

[13:15:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> what happens if you have both?

[13:15:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> michelled - it was essential that display: none be missing

[13:15:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Since if that is present, the browser refuses to perform any layout for the material

[13:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> with both, i don't see the jumping issue with fat panel demo but i need to test with more other context to make sure the jumping doesn't come back

[13:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And so when it is applied, there was some "jump" at the moment the dimensions were computed

[13:16:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok - that would be great, cindyli

[13:16:32 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok,

[13:17:00 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> from what you described, seems very likely the jumping will come back tho.

[13:17:04 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's possible that a separate piece of the CSS has fixed the issue - I think we've found that the jumping is very sensitive to a number of CSS combinations

[13:17:16 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I remember when michelled first made the IDI site, the jumping reappeared

[13:17:29 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Did you note down what you had to change in order to make it go away?

[13:24:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sorry.. back now

[13:25:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i finished DECA-253 and DECA-258

[13:25:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i've filed a new issue though.. DECA-260 which i'll work on now..

[13:26:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: anyone remote interested in coming todays community meeting.. it'll start at about 2:30 EDT today.. so in about 5 minutes

[13:26:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - I will come.... is it a Skype meeting?

[13:26:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: sure.. we can Skype you in

[13:42:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: last call for any remote participants to today's community meeting

[13:44:16 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> add me justin_o

[13:50:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: the community meeting will be streamed through adobe connect. you can join if you like from http://connect.ocad.ca/fluid-work

[13:50:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> you can just login as a guest

[15:29:06 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> hello all

[15:33:55 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> I need a little help in my web editor app, specifically ensuring I am accounting for all standard things we use in a regular editer like Eclipse.