fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-05-04

[10:32:07 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Looks like OCAD Adobe connect room is still down. Please use this url instead: http://connect.yorku.ca/fluidwork

[10:51:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: fyi, the construction next door was very noticeable and made it hard to hear people at times. Something to keep in mind when doing meetings next time.

[10:52:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, thanks for the feedback. Perhaps on noisy construction days we'll use another space - though it's pretty noisy everywhere these days

[10:55:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: true.

[10:58:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Bosmon, are you there?

[13:21:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Hello, anastasiac

[13:23:08 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> hey bosmon

[13:23:15 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> travis_84_ (smile)

[13:24:50 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> did you see my msg about the name of the project?

[13:31:14 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> travis_84_ - I think that is an excellent idea

[13:31:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Always splendid to go for the Greek roots

[13:31:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I once was thinking of naming my company "Selagistic Development" : P

[13:31:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> But in the end went for the Latin root instead...

[13:32:49 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> nice

[13:33:10 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/DTk/

[13:33:42 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> it was going to be Hebrew but Chofesh will just get butchered

[13:35:18 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> hahaha

[13:35:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Many Greek words are just grander versions of their English equivalents..... or vice versa.... say anything in Greek and it will sound grand (smile)

[13:35:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> "creation" for example just refers to MEAT....

[13:36:18 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> haha

[13:36:51 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> we are just created meat, good to know

[13:38:06 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> COSMOS just means "world" : P

[13:42:30 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> understandable really, Plato was a real advocate for the belief that the body and the perceivable things were just lesser forms of "ultimate reality". So the words just reflect the attitude

[13:44:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I favour the alternative theory that "everything was smaller in the past" : P

[13:46:01 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> particles are pretty small

[14:19:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hi, Bosmon2, I'm back from my late lunch now - are you there?

[14:59:29 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Hi anastasiac - yes, I am here

[14:59:35 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Thanks for the report on the list

[14:59:48 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Hi, Bosmon2

[14:59:53 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I will start looking at your expander definition shortly

[14:59:57 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Is there anything you'd like to add to it?

[15:00:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> actually, I just realize that I accidentally didn't cc the list on that email - I meant to. If you reply eventually, feel free to cc the list

[15:00:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Bosmon2, the other thing is dealing with arrays

[15:01:00 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> you can see at the bottom of my "samples" in my email that the transformation from UIO to AfA needs to produce an array of things

[15:01:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> it doesn't currently seem to handle that

[15:01:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Yes, that's ok

[15:01:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Array support is my next big target for the rewrite

[15:02:14 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I've puzzled over it for a while since it touches on some quite deep issues relating to how we deal with "schemas" across the framework

[15:02:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> But I think I have come to a reasonably firm conclusion now

[15:02:58 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> So far our only brush with schemas has been a bit "devolved" - yura put together a system (actually two systems) for dealing with them in CSpace

[15:03:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> But with Model transformations going into core for this release, we need to have a core approach to schemas too

[15:26:09 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Bosmon2, I'm not sure when "this release" is going to be, but I do know when the GPII demo is going to be (smile)

[15:32:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> anastasiac - shush (smile)

[15:32:24 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I know it too (smile)