fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-02-27

[09:08:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> alexn1, cindyli: I just pushed alexn1's FLUID-4619 branch into demo - it changes the markup so you will want to update

[09:13:00 CST(-0600)] <jessm> michelled: jameswy: I'm typing in two windows

[09:13:02 CST(-0600)] <jessm> consolidating here

[09:13:12 CST(-0600)] <michelled>

[09:13:19 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: michelled says we can maybe have cindyli help with getting the wiki together today

[09:13:38 CST(-0600)] <jessm> or wait until tomorrow for AC and maybe get some of greggy if he's around

[09:13:40 CST(-0600)] <jessm> what do you think?

[09:15:16 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: I'm looking into the branch FLUID-4616 which is going to be merged into the demo branch and I see that all files are of a format Filename.fr.json NOT Filename.transcripts.fr.json is it OK ?

[09:15:40 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: ^

[09:16:25 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: I think we can wait for AC, and get her started on it in the early morning. The only thing we need to do is have the following prepared:

[09:17:48 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> 1) Content (text, links, images), 2) Structure (title, headings, summary card/sections, etc.), 3) Links out to articles from the homepage, and 4) Decision on the left-hand TOC (if we're keeping that at all).

[09:25:41 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, alexn1, i can convert them into transcript files after the merge.

[09:32:23 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: I pushed new French files.

[09:32:31 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> thanks, alexn1

[09:37:33 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: i'm going to use that list as my guide today

[09:39:22 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark is bringing up a good point

[09:39:29 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> oh hi

[09:39:40 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Here I was, talking off channel

[09:39:50 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy, jessm: I worry about technical snags

[09:39:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: michelled: colinclark: and cindyli let's get the wiki workin' today

[09:39:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> with the ILDH

[09:39:58 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> best to experience them today rather than tomorrow

[09:40:30 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> alexn1, michelled, colinclark, i just pushed into demo branch that simply renames the caption json files to transcript files.

[09:40:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Much as it kills me to distract from other work, I was thinking perhaps cindyli could help with any ILDH tweaks that need to be done. She spins PHP in her sleep.

[09:41:05 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> lol

[09:41:45 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> not a problem, let me know what i can help with

[09:42:58 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: we need to be able to add content

[09:43:04 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: that's priority #1

[09:43:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and as jameswy said above, we might need to adjust the left nav

[09:43:28 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: Can you not add content now?

[09:43:29 CST(-0600)] <jessm> this is our playbook: jameswy: 1) Content (text, links, images), 2) Structure (title, headings, summary card/sections, etc.), 3) Links out to articles from the homepage, and 4) Decision on the left-hand TOC (if we're keeping that at all).

[09:43:32 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: no

[09:43:39 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Can you elaborate, jessm?

[09:43:41 CST(-0600)] <jessm> not new pages

[09:44:01 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: i believe that jameswy and i both have accts. that allow us to edit existing pages, but not create new ones

[09:44:05 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> hmm

[09:44:06 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> odd

[09:44:07 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: We can create new ones.

[09:44:21 CST(-0600)] <jessm> well, i'm just plain wrong then

[09:44:24 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> It's a bit gimmicky, but essentially:

[09:45:07 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> 1) From an existing page, create a link to a new page. Save page. Click on link. Brings you to a new editable page. OR 2) Just go to the address of the would-be page, and edit away.

[09:45:37 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> But, we have no means of editing the left-hand TOC (it's hard-coded, which is why we need to do it last, or whenever we've decided what our final content is going to be).

[09:45:55 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> That's gimmicky? Isn't that how boring old wikis work?

[09:45:58 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> And, we have no means of changing page titles (which is why I've been waiting to the very end to populate the wiki).

[09:46:15 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> colinclark: Haha, maybe... I rather like Confluence's affordance of "add page".

[09:46:18 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Maybe I'm just spoiled.

[09:46:24 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> No

[09:46:29 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Boring old wikis suck

[09:47:17 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I imagine the only thing we might need cindyli for is the hard-coded PHP for the navigation

[09:47:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> the table of contents or whatever it is

[09:47:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I remember Heidi couldn't figure out any way to dynamically generate a table of contents like this

[09:47:40 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> so she whipped up some PHP

[09:47:50 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> which wiki r u talking about? wiki.fluidproject.org?

[09:48:08 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: http://handbook.floeproject.org

[09:48:21 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ah. cool

[09:50:12 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli, alexn1: the french transcripts appear to be the old translation

[09:50:22 CST(-0600)] <michelled> from before charly fixed them

[09:50:43 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I just rebuilt the build and you'll notice that the french captions and transcripts don't match

[09:51:44 CST(-0600)] <michelled> an easy way to check is the use of the word 'backbone'. Charly changed it to 'colonne vertebrale'

[09:53:29 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> looking into it

[09:53:47 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thanks

[09:54:04 CST(-0600)] * jessm has a new, clearer understanding of our wiki woes – just old style

[09:55:59 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> michelled: Where can I see the current build?

[09:56:13 CST(-0600)] <michelled> http://build.fluidproject.org/videodemo/videoPlayer/demos/Mammals.html

[09:57:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy: This seems to be the key http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Moving_a_page

[09:58:03 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: Cindy could you please take a look into the issue michelled pointed out? It looks like Mammals.fr.json and Mammals.fr.vtt have the latest translation but the file Mammals.transcripts.fr.json has old text for some reason.

[09:58:34 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy: Please don't cringe too much at the captions/transcripts buttons. They suck and I'm working on 'em as we speak.

[09:58:51 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy: I haven't quite hit pixel perfection, but I do have some really hot linear gradients and inner glows

[09:59:06 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> alexn1: yes, i'm comparing the files but the new transcript file appears to have the new content

[09:59:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy: GRADIENTS

[09:59:23 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: do we need Mammals.fr.json at all if we are using Mammals.transcripts.fr.json? Maybe we could remove the first one and keep the latter, after the changing to the new translations of course

[09:59:47 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Haha, awesome.

[10:00:01 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ah, i didn't really push. what the ...

[10:00:16 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sorry, my fault. one sec

[10:01:23 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: no worries. big thanks michelled for finding this!

[10:01:24 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok, pushed. michelled, can you try again? sorry

[10:02:07 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> So jessm: We have page renames (roughly) figured out, if you follow that tutorial I pasted in

[10:02:17 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Beyond that, if cindyli is will she can help with any really technical stuff

[10:02:29 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> My humble advice is to start getting new content in right away

[10:02:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> since it will help Jutta see where we're going more concretely

[10:02:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and will allow us to address potential technical issues early

[10:03:02 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: ^

[10:03:16 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Yep.

[10:03:26 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: how can i help?

[10:04:14 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Either by writing content, or starting to populate the wiki with what we have.

[10:04:21 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok, jameswy & jessm, can someone create me an account on wiki and point me to the source code?

[10:04:34 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> avtar?

[10:04:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I believe any administrator can do it, cindyli

[10:05:01 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> cool

[10:05:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm and jameswy and I are admins

[10:05:05 CST(-0600)] <alexn1> cindyli: I skimmed through the transcripts and translations. It looks that captions and transcripts should be in sync now.

[10:05:12 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: i'm not sure i am

[10:05:36 CST(-0600)] <michelled> looks good cindyli

[10:05:42 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> okay, jessm and jameswy and cindyli

[10:05:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> lets get this figured out

[10:05:47 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> once sec

[10:06:11 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: Do me a quick favour: log in and go to "My Preferences"

[10:06:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and tell me if you're part of the Administrators group

[10:06:49 CST(-0600)] <jessm> um, yes i am

[10:06:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> okay

[10:07:01 CST(-0600)] <jessm> i was sure i wasn't because i just created my acct. – sorry

[10:07:02 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> let's figure out how to grant permissions in mediawiki

[10:07:16 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> in the meantime, cindyli, can you sign up for an account?

[10:07:26 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sure

[10:08:53 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It looks like doing anything interesting with user permissions may involve adjusting config files

[10:09:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Can I just say that I think I hate MediaWiki, and get that part over with?

[10:09:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: Just to put it on your radar, we've got this instance of MediaWiki http://handbook.floeproject.org

[10:09:51 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> And it's going to feature hugely in a presentation to Hewlett later this week

[10:09:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> cindyli might need a hand from you at some point

[10:10:25 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok, i've signed up

[10:10:27 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> cindyli: The source code lives here: https://github.com/fluid-project/handbook.floeproject.org

[10:10:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> This may or may not have been set up fully as one of our Git-backed websites

[10:11:02 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> cool. what the first thing to tackle? adding content or table of content?

[10:11:39 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> and i do need more details on what the problem was and what your guys want.

[10:12:06 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> cindyli: When they need specific help, I think jameswy and jessm will get in touch

[10:12:14 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think they're still just getting ready to put in content

[10:12:16 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i just signed up for an account

[10:12:22 CST(-0600)] <avtar> could someone please make me an admin?

[10:12:31 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: If I can figure out how

[10:12:47 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: I think cindyli will need ssh access to that server if that's okay

[10:13:05 CST(-0600)] <avtar> yup that should be fine

[10:13:15 CST(-0600)] <avtar> cindyli: please email me your ssh public key

[10:13:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: Can I have shell access too, just in case?

[10:13:37 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok, avtar

[10:13:38 CST(-0600)] <avtar> sure

[10:13:42 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i think i have your key

[10:13:56 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> avtar: you have my key too

[10:13:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: Yep, you should

[10:14:01 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> thanks so much

[10:14:03 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Do you think http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Considerations+for+using+and+designing+inclusive+technologies+for+the+educational+setting and http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/General+principles+and+guidelines+for+designing+for+teachers+as+consumers+and+producers+of+OER are pluggable into the ILDH?

[10:14:15 CST(-0600)] <michelled> colinclark: https://github.com/fluid-project/handbook.floeproject.org

[10:14:51 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: yes

[10:14:56 CST(-0600)] <jessm> we can do some editing as needed

[10:17:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> eek, avtar, Administrators clearly aren't Sysops in MediaWiki

[10:18:14 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm, colinclark, michelled: "Fluid video player" or "Floe video player"?

[10:18:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Let's go with the latter

[10:20:07 CST(-0600)] <avtar> colinclark: i currently don't have permissions for this page http://handbook.floeproject.org/index.php/Special:UserRights

[10:20:14 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar: Yes, exactly

[10:20:17 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Neither do I!

[10:20:19 CST(-0600)] <avtar> ah

[10:20:20 CST(-0600)] <avtar> ok

[10:20:20 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> eek

[10:20:32 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i can make the required changes in the database then

[10:20:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> We need to be "Bureaucrats," apparently

[10:20:57 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> colinclark, avtar: I have access to it.

[10:21:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy: YAY

[10:21:06 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> What do you do you need done?

[10:21:09 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Can you make me a bureaucrat?

[10:21:16 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and then I'll add everyone else?

[10:22:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> cindyli: You're Cindy on the Handbook wiki, I guess?

[10:22:28 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> To ask the obvious question

[10:22:31 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, colinclark

[10:22:58 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> great, you're now a Bureaucrat as well

[10:23:04 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: What's your account name?

[10:23:22 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> thanks

[10:23:38 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: username is jessmitchell

[10:23:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: You already were a bureaucrat

[10:23:56 CST(-0600)] <jessm> real name: jess mitchell

[10:23:56 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> no work required

[10:24:12 CST(-0600)] <jessm> roger that

[10:24:12 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Apparently AC made you one on Valentine's Day

[10:24:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> because she loves you

[10:24:20 CST(-0600)] <jessm> that's lovely

[10:24:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Okay, so, best as I can tell...

[10:24:51 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> avtar, jessm, cindyli, jameswy, me, and anastasiac are all Bureaucrats and can do lots of stuff

[10:25:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and now I added michelled, just for fun

[10:25:44 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: Do you have everything you need for now to get started?

[10:25:51 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: i think i do, eys

[10:25:52 CST(-0600)] <jessm> yes

[10:26:18 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: no worries now about renaming pages too, right

[10:26:23 CST(-0600)] <jessm> that link you sent solves the day?

[10:26:29 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: Yep, just follow that link

[10:26:36 CST(-0600)] <jessm> k, got it

[10:26:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm not 100% sure that it will change inbound links automatically

[10:26:43 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> So keep an eye on that.

[10:26:53 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It will create a redirect page, which is great for external links

[10:27:08 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but I hope it will change any references to that page within the wiki itself. We'll see.

[10:27:26 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: I'm going to dive in and create pages for the existing google docs – you ok with that?

[10:27:42 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: fingers crossed – it could be a mess otherwise

[10:28:19 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: I think so. If you give me a few minutes, I'm almost done with the biggest one (Video content & learning).

[10:28:37 CST(-0600)] <jessm> ok, jameswy i'll do it after standup

[10:28:48 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: actually why don't' i do it after lunch if you're still puttering

[10:29:15 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Let's coordinate tightly, otherwise the content won't be in sync (and I'll forget which ones I'm still working on but aren't up, which ones are currently up, etc.)

[10:29:20 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Sounds good.

[10:29:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> yes, this is why after lunch is a good idea methinks

[11:35:13 CST(-0600)] <michelled> alexn1, Bosmon, cindyli, colinclark: I updated our plan page on the wiki: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Floe+Demo+Plan

[11:35:20 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled: Awesome!

[11:35:23 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> thanks, michelled

[11:35:26 CST(-0600)] <michelled> np

[11:35:48 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled: I'd say hang out with alexn1 for fullscreen and then pair with me on the buttons

[11:35:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> since, as you say, they're pretty critical

[12:28:05 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelle, alexn1, colinclark, I did a push into demo branch to fix the issue that closing the transcript leaves a grey background behind.

[12:28:34 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cindyli - that's great

[12:28:42 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Does the video now expand back into the vacated space?

[12:29:40 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> expand? no, the video only adjusts its position to fill up the vacated space.

[12:29:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Yes

[12:29:51 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> That is what I meant

[12:29:56 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> cool

[12:58:27 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: We've been talking privately, but I thought it was worth surfacing publicly

[12:58:34 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Okay, so...

[12:58:43 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I came to realize two problematic things:

[12:58:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> 1. Despite giving them patches several years ago, the release version of the jQuery UI Slider doesn't include its own ARIA

[12:59:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> 2. We appear to have handled the addition of the necessary ARIA in an ad-hoc way

[12:59:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Meaning, UIO's TextFieldSlider did it by itself

[12:59:29 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> The VideoPlayer, equally, does it by itself

[12:59:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> in two separate places

[13:00:01 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> You mentioned that your UIO refactoring yesterday included the addition of ARIA directly to the Slider component used by the TextFieldSlider

[13:00:08 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> So that's awesome

[13:00:31 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Do you see any reason why I can't make an Infusion build off your branch and commit it to the Video Player demo branch?

[13:00:49 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and then start using your Slider component in both the Scrubber and volume buttons for the Video Player?

[13:03:44 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> colinclark - that's fine

[13:03:56 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> There are many aspects of this branch that are not suitable to go back into the core framework

[13:04:01 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But I expect that the slider work is fine

[13:04:18 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> As long as your use of it for the time being is scoped to the demo branch, it should be good

[13:04:33 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Yep

[13:05:56 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> We could do with some better tests for the TextfieldSlider... they still pass, but are incredibly thin

[13:06:04 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> For example, they don't actually test the ARIA functionality

[13:06:17 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Oh wait, they do

[13:06:35 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Still, there could be more of them...

[13:16:16 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura, Bosmon: in the proto style, how do you use messagekey for a link.. when I use it messagekey, the target isn't applied.. if i use linktext instead, the target works, but the text isn't correct

[13:17:13 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - messagekey needs to be nested inside text

[13:18:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Take a look at renderer test cases, line 427

[13:18:17 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: thanks

[13:24:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jessm: have you ever heard the expression "Chatty Cathy?"

[13:24:27 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: oh yes

[13:24:34 CST(-0600)] <jessm> colinclark: cousin to Nosey Parker

[13:24:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> lol

[13:24:46 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: So, apparently it is a New World expression

[13:24:50 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> not strictly Canadian

[13:25:02 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatty_Cathy

[13:25:55 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> "My name is Talky Tina, and I'm going to kill you."

[13:32:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> hey Bosmon

[13:32:37 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I thought you had mentioned something about splitting off the CSS for the media panel into a separate file

[13:32:39 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Is that correct?

[13:32:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Which one is it? https://github.com/michelled/infusion/tree/FLUID-4607/src/webapp/components/uiOptions/css

[13:33:37 CST(-0600)] <athena1> i vouch for that as a common american phrase, too

[13:33:51 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> lol

[13:38:07 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: ping

[13:38:16 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, jessm

[13:38:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: i'm wondering if you can help with the hard coded php navigation in the ILDH wiki we pointed to earlier?

[13:38:48 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sure, jessm

[13:38:57 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> more detail pls

[13:39:41 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: we'd like to remove "who is this for?" and "techniques" from the navigation

[13:39:47 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and we'd like to add the following...

[13:40:11 CST(-0600)] <jessm> ILDH/Home

[13:40:12 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Introduction

[13:40:12 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Why is this important?

[13:40:12 CST(-0600)] <jessm> What is the approach?

[13:40:13 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Body/techniques/something?

[13:40:13 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Inclusive learning

[13:40:13 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Accessibility principles

[13:40:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Learner needs and preferences SKIP

[13:40:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Video content and learning SKIP

[13:40:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Audio content and learning SKIP

[13:40:15 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Authoring of content

[13:40:15 CST(-0600)] <jessm> Content simplification

[13:40:19 CST(-0600)] <jessm> oh, that might not have pasted well

[13:40:26 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> pretty well

[13:40:43 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cindyli: but Introduction and Body/Techniques/something aren't links

[13:40:46 CST(-0600)] <jessm> they're just headings

[13:40:57 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok

[13:40:59 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and the Introduction page now becomes the ILDH/Home

[13:41:03 CST(-0600)] <jessm> make sense?

[13:41:21 CST(-0600)] <jessm> indents mean sub-pages or at least represented that way

[13:41:32 CST(-0600)] <jessm> i'm on skype if you need to talk through this

[13:42:55 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> understand. the new navigation should be hardcoded as well?

[13:43:05 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> or auto-generated based on something?

[13:43:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> cindyli: It'd be awesome to auto-generate it somehow

[13:43:32 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm not really sure what sort of facility MediaWiki might offer for this

[13:43:37 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Perhaps tags?

[13:44:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think, to start, it might make sense just to hardcode it

[13:44:51 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> and then we can look at the many tagging extension available for MW

[13:44:58 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i guess each link on the navigation is pointing to a individual page, which makes the detection of certain tags perhaps impossible, unless there's an association gets defined somewhere

[13:45:09 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i will look it up in mediaWiki features

[13:45:36 CST(-0600)] <jessm> thanks cindyli!

[13:45:44 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np

[13:46:05 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> colinclark - thefile is called UIOptions-media.css

[13:46:34 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: I don't see it there

[13:46:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Am I crazy?

[13:46:43 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Can you send me a Github link?

[13:47:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Good grief

[13:47:52 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I can't believe I didn't commit it

[13:47:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> What a n00b mistake

[13:48:08 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ah!

[13:48:21 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I did add it

[13:48:26 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> And then I undid my commit

[13:48:31 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> And then forgot to add it the 2nd time....

[13:49:21 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok, it's added now

[13:54:41 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: the demo branch is broken with the merge of 4607

[13:57:50 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: try now - I hadn't modified the js links in the uio i frame

[14:00:48 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> thanks Bosmon

[14:00:52 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok

[14:01:06 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> n00bmon

[14:01:34 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> What merge just happened?

[14:02:11 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: working but with one error: "NetworkError: 404 Not Found - http://localhost/videoPlayer/lib/infusion/components/uiOptions/css/UIOptions-media.css"

[14:02:20 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cindyli - merge again

[14:02:21 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled just added your FLUID-4607 Infusion to the Video Player demo branch, Bosmon

[14:02:33 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> MERGE AGAIN, DICK WHITTINGTON

[14:02:40 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Bosmon: it isn't in the video player repo yet

[14:02:44 CST(-0600)] <michelled> unless you added it?

[14:02:49 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I'm in the midst if you haven't

[14:02:52 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> who me?

[14:02:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> i'm too busy making a mess

[14:04:18 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon, yura: just saw a commit go into infusion that looks like yura committed and merged without review. Apparently Bosmon you looked at it, and commented on the commit, but the comment didn't make it over to our repo with the merge. It's probably best to stick to pull requests for merges to make sure everything is tracked.

[14:04:47 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> THE KING SPEAKS!

[14:04:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> OK King

[14:05:36 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> The King would probably smite us for this Video Player schism

[14:05:51 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I had noticed that comments attached to pull requests had a slightly better treatment

[14:06:47 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> You mean, having a branch of Infusion?

[14:06:51 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Surely that's perfectly acceptable....

[14:06:53 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: it's a shame they aren't all treated alike, but i guess they don't want to bring external comments into another repo.

[14:07:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: I just meant more generally

[14:07:23 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> particularly the chaos of the Video Player demo branch

[14:07:31 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> colinclark: from hearing all the work going on there, i'm afraid to look at it

[14:07:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Well.... it's an EMERGENCY : P

[14:07:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But from what I can see, the chaos is actually pretty orderly

[14:07:57 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> YES!

[14:08:05 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I mean, we remember the UIOptions work prior to the 1.4 release

[14:08:07 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled will undoubtedly disagree

[14:08:09 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I think that was much more chaotic

[14:08:44 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> We had numerous branches that we weren't even quite sure what was in them, or how they related to each other....

[14:09:04 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Anyway, michelled, do let me know when the big merge is done, and I will use it to base my integration work "off of"

[14:09:20 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> GOD I hate saying "off of" so much!

[14:12:11 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It's an especially awesome statement with the added quotes