fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-09-22

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[10:36:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> hi jgarciavila
[10:36:16 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Sorry about the audio difficulties.
[10:36:17 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> hi
[10:36:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This is always a good place to chat, ask questions, etc.
[10:36:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> colinclark: I was wondering if you'd created the JIRA for jgarciavila to work on
[10:36:26 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> no problem
[10:36:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> There's also the mailing lists, as michelled mentioned.
[10:36:41 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> yeah
[10:36:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We don't have a Web-based forum, but the IRC room is logged to the wiki.
[10:36:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled: I haven't yet created a JIRA. Shall I do that now?
[10:37:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ya, I think so.
[10:37:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Ok
[10:37:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: Hang on and I'll create a new JIRA for your work.
[10:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> thanks.
[10:37:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In the meantime, michelled, can you introduce jgarciavila to fj4000, who is also working on the demo portal?
[10:38:07 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> fj4000: jgarciavila is going to add keyboard support and ARIA to the demo portal
[10:38:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> cool
[10:38:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Specifically the tabs we've got for the code view.
[10:38:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> fj4000: Do you have a JIRA issue you're working from for the demo portal?
[10:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yup.... let me get it
[10:38:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> parent ticket: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3150
[10:38:54 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jgarciavila: fj4000 (also known as jacob) created the demo portal so he's a good person to ask questions to about it
[10:39:06 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> ok
[10:39:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> jgarciavila: looking forward to it
[10:39:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So jgarciavila, the JIRA ticket fj4000 sent along is what we call an "umbrella" issue.
[10:39:50 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> ok
[10:39:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If you look at it, you'll notice we've filed a number of subtasks within it.
[10:39:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So I'm going to file a new one for the accessibility work.
[10:40:18 EDT(-0400)] * Topic is 'Bug Parade Infusion 1.1.2 & Engage 0.1: http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&requestId=10128' set by justin_o on 2009-09-22 10:40:18 EDT(-0400)
[10:40:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> fj4000: justin_o and I just noticed that we don't have any bug parade issues for the demos and the portal.
[10:40:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> !
[10:40:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Can you work with him to identify the necessary tasks?
[10:40:40 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> want any help with that?
[10:40:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: Do you know what our "bug parade" is?
[10:41:01 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> fj4000 and if there are anything that needs to be done for mobile FSS as well
[10:41:02 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> no
[10:41:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Ok
[10:41:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: Meet justin_o, our QA lead.
[10:41:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He can explain the bug parade.
[10:41:41 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> hi justin
[10:41:45 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> hi jacob
[10:41:53 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> hello!
[10:42:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> hello
[10:43:14 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> what is the "bug parade" and how it works ?
[10:43:22 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> jgarciavila: justin_o has created a page that explains bug parade: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Bug+Parade
[10:43:28 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> ok
[10:43:32 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> jgarciavila: in short the bug parade is our time for a focused bug fixes. In general there are no new features added at this time... although this release is slightly different because of the 0.1 for Engage.
[10:44:06 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> i understand
[10:44:17 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> essentially, it is the period of time before qa for a release where we stop working on new features and instead fix bugs in existing features
[10:44:17 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> There are some restrictions for bug parade including a stipulation that only issues that are listed on the bug parade can be committed against
[10:44:31 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> there should be more detail in the link that michelled passed along though
[10:44:33 EDT(-0400)] * michelled should be quiet and let justin_o talk
[10:44:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: (smile) thanks for the help
[10:45:06 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> you don't need to be quiet (smile)
[10:45:12 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> (smile)
[10:46:18 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> i assigned myself to the jira "umbrella" 3150, is this correct?
[10:46:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: Here's the JIRA I filed for you: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3197
[10:46:55 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the umbrella issue should remain as is, i think
[10:47:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Unfortunately in JIRA there is no way to have multiple assignees, so it doesn't really matter who is assigned to the umbrella item/.
[10:47:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's something that you, fj4000, and James (one of our designers) are all working on together.
[10:47:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> I'll re-assign it back to me for accountability, if thats ok
[10:47:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> fj4000: (tongue)
[10:47:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I don't mind either way.
[10:47:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[10:47:53 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> i'm sorry,
[10:47:54 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> colinclark, jgarciavila: I've added FLUID-3197 to bug parade
[10:48:05 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> so mine is 3197
[10:48:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: No worries at all.
[10:48:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Jess, our project manager, always talks about how we emphasize "leadership, not ownership." No one really owns the code or the associated JIRA tasks.
[10:48:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We just have assignees to help keep track of things while they're being worked on.
[10:50:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ya, it's really a way to communicate to everyone that a specific person is working on a specific thing.
[10:50:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> justin_o, could we add : FLUID-3151 and FLUID-3179 to the parade?
[10:50:17 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> i see. so should i assign to me the task 3197? (smile)
[10:50:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: I think I already assigned it to you, but if I didn't, yes go ahead and assign it to yourself.
[10:51:02 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> ok
[10:51:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: It's really great to have you working on the project.
[10:51:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Welcome!
[10:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> thanks.
[10:51:53 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> fj4000: FLUID-3151 and FLUID-3179 have been added
[10:52:33 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and justin_o should probably assign ENGAGE-64 back to himself
[10:54:32 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: good point.. i'll do that
[10:55:38 EDT(-0400)] <jgarciavila> so ... many thanks you all for pointing me the right direction to start walking.
[10:56:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I have added FLUID 3150 and all of it's sub jiras to bug parade
[10:57:20 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> Added FLUID-3198 to bug parade as well
[10:59:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jgarciavila: No problem at all!
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[13:21:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o: do you have a few minutes?
[13:21:37 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure
[13:22:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> James just gave us a heads up on the new designs for tags
[13:22:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> because of changes in design that are coming down the pipe, I want to remove the tag issues related to editing
[13:22:48 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay
[13:22:50 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and add ones related to viewing McCord data
[13:22:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure
[13:23:01 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Yura, needs to make some changes to kettle for this
[13:23:03 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and the importer
[13:23:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> he'll send you the JIRAs that need to be added
[13:23:16 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thanks...
[13:23:21 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> and I'll probably close the ones I want removed
[13:23:40 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thank you... can you remove the bug parade comment from it before you close them
[13:30:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> sure
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[14:45:18 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> justin_o: you there?
[14:45:26 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel: hello
[14:45:35 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> hey - just found a rather critical bug
[14:45:47 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> can I post it and then send you the jira #?
[14:46:15 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel what do you mean by post it?
[14:46:24 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> on jira
[14:46:29 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> sure
[14:46:43 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> you might call this a blocker for the infusion builder
[14:46:49 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> but I'll let you decide
[14:47:13 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... thanks
[14:54:30 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3199
[14:54:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel: thanks... i'll take a look
[14:56:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> justin_o: Sure looks like a blocker to me, assuming it causes the build to produce an invalid product.
[14:57:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel, colinclark: i'm just adding it to the bug parade now...
[14:58:05 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i'll be sending out an update to the bug parade in a minute or two as well
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[15:20:37 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> fj4000: are we dropping the bSpace and Sakai announcements demos of inline edit?
[15:27:18 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> justin_o: never actually been on bug parade...I've committed a fix to a blocker...do I resolve the jira or not?
[15:28:08 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel: yes, please resolve it if it is fixed, then you will need to get it code reviewed and tested before it can be closed
[15:29:51 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> hey...i already have to get it code reviewed before it can be closed...so that's pretty normal <grin>
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[15:34:55 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> justin_o: ok resoved two...do you need the #'s or can you figure that out.
[15:38:44 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> probably be easier if you send me the numbers (smile) oh and you should also request here or on list for a code review as well
[15:43:16 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> laurel: ^
[15:43:32 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 3189, 3149
[15:45:26 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> oops 3189 not 3149 - there are way to many 9s going on
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