fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-09-01

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[10:25:30 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> laurel: hi, can you point me toward the customBuild demo
[10:32:56 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> alisonbenjamin: sorry - i dont' get any signal so I never see these notes unless I'm really paying attention
[10:33:12 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> laurel: good morning.
[10:33:16 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> I emailed you the URL - want to keep it a bit under wraps right now
[10:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> working but not load tested
[10:34:03 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> laurel: ok, thanks.
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[11:14:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is Bosmo1 still on vacation?
[11:14:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think i've found a fluid pager issue or two
[11:15:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: He's back this week, but off to the train station at the moment.
[11:15:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, thanks colinclark (smile)
[11:15:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This week and next are the Weeks of Pager for him, though. (tongue)
[11:15:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> excellent
[11:15:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> What'd you find?
[11:16:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> some selectors that work in jQuery don't seem to be working in fluid, at least as the container element for the pager
[11:16:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hmm, that's interesting!
[11:16:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'd talked to him about that before, but i actually have a simple test case that demos it now, if someone wants that
[11:16:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ah, yes
[11:16:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That'd be awesome.
[11:16:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the other issue is that the previous model-clearing code doesn't work in the pager in 1.1.1
[11:17:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Do you know if there's a JIRA ticket for the selector issue, or should I create one and then you can upload your test case?
[11:17:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i don't think there is one yet - i'd wanted to make a simple test case to make sure it wasn't something else random in the code
[11:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> appears not to be though
[11:17:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for the other issue, it looks like sorting is being accomplished by some sort of storing an index as a "permutation"
[11:18:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> our existing pager model refresh code doesn't take that into account, so the permutation array winds up holding invalid data
[11:18:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for the time being i've tried just setting pager.permutation = undefined, but that doesn't completely fix the problem
[11:19:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm not sure if that's behavior that you guys would expect and that we just need to update our refresh code, or if it's a genuine issue
[11:19:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> by the way, i don't know if you guys have any 1.2-focused documentation lying around yet, but if you'd like, we can try and do some testing in uportal before your release
[11:32:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> interesting
[11:32:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That's awesome. I think we're a little behind on documentation for 1.2 at the moment, but we're going to make a real push soon.
[11:32:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sure
[11:32:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sounds good colinclark (smile)
[11:33:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> will you ping me at some point when you think there's enough updated that we could take a stab at testing in uportal?
[11:33:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> For sure.
[11:33:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So you're thinking documentation for Pager, in particular?
[11:33:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:34:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> since from what i hear that's changing significantly
[11:34:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> presumably we'll also want to test drag and drop, but i don't know if that's going to be much different
[11:34:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it sounds like you'r changing the image reorderer - i wasn't sure if that would affect the layout reorderer too
[11:36:59 EDT(-0400)] <athena> anyway, colinclark, did you create a jira for that selector issue or would you like me to?
[11:37:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Sorry, super distracted.
[11:37:25 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol it's ok
[11:37:32 EDT(-0400)] * athena feels like she's permanently distracted
[11:37:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:37:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I can relate.
[11:37:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have done a major overhal of Image Reorderer for Infusion 1.2, but backwards compatibility was the primary goal.
[11:38:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> excellent
[11:38:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And, in fact, it was really just updating the documentation, sample code, and default implementation to be up-to-date with the Layout Reorderer style.
[11:38:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and from what you said on-list it sounds like a huge improvement
[11:38:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'll have to try and make a little demo of the image reorderer in the portal's js demo channel
[11:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it was too hard before because of the ID stuff
[11:38:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Yeah, totally.
[11:38:53 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, it wasn't that hard, but hard enough not to have done it, i suppose
[11:39:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> To be honest, athena, I was pretty embarrassed about that.
[11:39:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The old ID style was just a hangover from the old days, and it slipped under our radar
[11:39:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hey, there's always more releases to fix things (smile)
[11:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:39:46 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think we tend to notice ID dependencies in particular because of their interaction with portlets
[11:39:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Nothing was preventing anyone from using the much cooler, DOM-binder driven style with the Image Reorderer, it was just that the documentation and example didn't explain how that could be done.
[11:40:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:40:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm really looking forward to the shiny awesome revamped demo pages
[11:40:36 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> Justin_o: can we jump on Skype & chat about the manual tests quickly..
[11:40:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> as a proud member of lazy and impatient developers everywhere, i think that'll be really helpful
[11:40:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[11:41:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Jacob has done an awesome job with those.
[11:41:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Expect a working preview by the end of this week. (wink)
[11:41:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He's on vacation, so I can get away with saying that while he's not around. (tongue)
[11:42:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[11:42:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, those look really nice
[11:42:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and i think it'll really help with fluid adoption
[11:42:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's much easier to immediately see the value of a component, plus figure out how to really use it
[11:42:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think that's something that jquery ui has done well
[11:43:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I hope so. I'm giving this presentation about Infusion at the Ajax Experience in a couple of weeks, so we're bracing for a lot of curious newcomers to the community.
[11:43:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Yeah, jQuery's documentation wiki, with inline examples, are really great.
[11:44:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> neat (smile) hope you pick up lots of interest
[11:44:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think there are a bunch of people at unicon using the pager in particular right now
[11:44:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> oh, that's awesome
[11:44:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> please assure them that it will genuinely rock soon enough
[11:44:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (wink)
[11:44:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> in fact, i think drew wills is giving an internal talk on it today, which i'll miss
[11:44:45 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol i will
[11:44:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> wow
[11:44:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> that's very cool
[11:45:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, lots of interest (smile)
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[12:27:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I'm doing some planning for the screencasts for the Fluid Academic final report website.
[12:27:26 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> How does this look for Progress? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Academic+Final+Report+Website+Planning
[12:31:26 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I think that looks good
[12:31:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: ^
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[12:35:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> cool, thanks
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[13:46:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Does this seem like a reasonable outline for the Inline Edit screencast? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Academic+Final+Report+Website+Planning
[13:48:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> colinclark, this looks good to me
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[14:46:50 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark, and others: I was looking into the reason why our tasklists weren't behaving... it looks like they are only partially supported in confluence 3.0 https://plugins.atlassian.com/plugin/details/160
[14:48:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I'm looking to see if there is another plugin for us to use instead... are there anything else that anyone might want for confluence
[14:50:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Subcomponents
[15:20:21 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yura, here's the URL the CollectionSpace UI code in svn: https://source.collectionspace.org/collection-space/src/ui/trunk/src/
[15:20:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the code is all in 'main'
[15:20:41 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> main/webapp
[15:20:52 EDT(-0400)] <yura> thanks anastasiac
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