fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-02-17

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[08:59:19 CST(-0600)] <jhung> colinclark: will you be joining us on Skype re: decapod?

[09:14:32 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: do you have a JIRA for the transcript work yet?

[09:24:57 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, 4610, michelled

[09:25:35 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx cindyli

[09:25:38 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np

[09:30:19 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli, anastasiac: can you check the iteration plan page and make sure any JIRA you think should be completed by end of the month are on there?

[09:30:36 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sure, michelled

[09:30:57 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I think there are a couple on there at the moment that are lower priority but I think we all know what our priorities are so I'm not going to worry about it

[11:18:44 CST(-0600)] <michelled> anastasiac: are you expecting to merge both your current pull requests into the new uber pull?

[11:19:18 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> michelled, no, I was not expecting to include the "high-fidelity" layout change one

[14:12:25 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: Bosmon is looking at my pull request and was wondering about why we added the wrapper around video

[14:12:39 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> https://github.com/fluid-project/videoPlayer/pull/24/files

[14:12:51 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> This one, and looking at the change of "container" to "videoContainer"

[14:14:38 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, while i'm experimenting more with the transcript UI, also realized videoContainer may not be necessary

[14:15:07 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> EricDalquist - I wonder if there is a chance we could impose on your huge generosity, and have the JASIGLogBot come into a new channel?

[14:15:10 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> It is called #fluid-tech....

[14:15:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> sure, just a minute

[14:15:32 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> That's really marvellous, thanks (smile)

[14:16:32 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> logging to the fluid wiki?

[14:16:42 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Yes, perfect

[14:16:53 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Do we need to create any new pages there to make it happen, or can the bot just figure it out?

[14:17:09 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> https://gist.github.com/1855212

[14:17:20 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> I need you to tell me the list of pageNames

[14:17:24 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> and the notification message

[14:17:34 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> the bot will create the pages (as long as it has permissions)

[14:17:39 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> oh and the spaceKey

[14:17:49 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok

[14:17:58 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> if I had time I'd steal some code from the jboss bot

[14:18:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Everything should be identical to what is there, just with "work" swapped out for "tech"

[14:18:15 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But should alert avtar to this too....

[14:18:15 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> they have one that is hooked into jira and github

[14:18:33 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> so if you mention a jira issue id or a git commit it dumps a summary into the channel

[14:18:42 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cool : P

[14:19:06 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> just updated: https://gist.github.com/1855212

[14:19:10 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> does that look right?

[14:19:32 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Yep - I guess you need to change the "bean name" too : P

[14:19:47 CST(-0600)] <EricDalquist> right (smile)

[14:20:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> OHHHH how I remember BEANS!

[14:20:04 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> How we loved them!

[14:21:10 CST(-0600)] * Topic is 'This channel is logged – for details see: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/IRC+Channel' set by jessm on 07:30:00 CST(-0600)

[14:25:47 CST(-0600)] <michelled> so, cindyli do you think we can get rid of the videoContainer wrapper? I know you said you introduced it for a reason but I don't remember what you said

[14:26:19 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i introduced it intending to ensure captions get displayed on top of the video

[14:27:12 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> let me get rid of it and make a push, michelled

[14:31:33 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jvass, avtar, alexn: would you like to try a typing test http://www.typingtest.com/

[14:31:44 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> a while back a bunch of us tried it and compared scores

[14:33:07 CST(-0600)] <avtar> sure

[14:34:24 CST(-0600)] <alexn> I got 49

[14:34:49 CST(-0600)] <alexn> I never was a fast typer though

[14:35:34 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i "accidentally" hit backspace once the test was done which took me back to the previous page

[14:35:38 CST(-0600)] <avtar> fail (sad)

[14:35:56 CST(-0600)] <alexn> (big grin)

[14:36:09 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Well, we compared scores, and found that Justin_o is the fastest (smile)

[14:36:40 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: i wish i was the tastes.. jameswy was the standout (smile)

[14:36:51 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> alexn: thanks for your score

[14:37:10 CST(-0600)] <avtar> 64 wpm

[14:37:23 CST(-0600)] <jhung> :O

[14:37:42 CST(-0600)] <jvass> I'm too embarrassed to say my score..

[14:37:47 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I'm chicken pecking.

[14:38:04 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> avtar: thanks..

[14:38:19 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jvass: no worries you can keep it a secret, but no need to feel embarrassed

[14:39:21 CST(-0600)] <avtar> Justin_o: i used their software to learn touch typing years ago (tongue)

[14:39:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> jameswy is just so unbelievably elite at typing

[14:39:36 CST(-0600)] <avtar> it's neat that they have a web version now

[14:39:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think the previous ranking was something like jameswy way above and beyond, followed by Bosmon

[14:39:57 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> colinclark: actually you were tied for 2nd

[14:40:00 CST(-0600)] <jhung> colinclark: I think it was all those years jameswy spent playing MUDs.

[14:41:25 CST(-0600)] <avtar> is there a prize for being first?

[14:41:38 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Yes, the prize is that you get to design everything (smile)

[14:41:43 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> :S

[14:42:21 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But I think I should be given a 20% bonus since I type using 20% fewer fingers (smile)

[14:42:48 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> jvass and jhung should also get a corresponding bonus.....

[14:43:38 CST(-0600)] <avtar> this conversation has all the ingredients for a typing battle

[14:43:48 CST(-0600)] * jhung readies Keyboard of Typing +3

[14:44:08 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Actually that's not true... I realise now I do use my small fingers.... just not for the right keys....

[14:44:09 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Bizarre

[14:44:10 CST(-0600)] <avtar> who will have the best technique?

[14:44:17 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok, I forgo my bonus : P

[14:45:32 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: Bosmon, i found the necessarity of having videoContainer which stops the bar for controllers from jumping up and down while the captions are fading in and out. The same issue actually also happens with my transcript UI since I've removed it from there

[14:46:02 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cindyli - can you think of a reason it jumps up and down?

[14:47:00 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> because of the captions div that's above the div for controller bar is shifting up and down

[14:47:34 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> with videoContainer, its size is programmatically restricted to the video height

[14:49:34 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> however, the integration of captionator might help with getting rid of the jumpness since the captions might no longer rolling in the same way

[14:53:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> So, cindyli, are you ok with the contents of the FLUID-4587 branch as it is now?

[14:53:52 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, Bosmon

[14:55:25 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> we should try experimenting with removing videoContainer in the branch that integrates captionator

[14:55:45 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> OK

[14:56:04 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But it sounds like the jumping behaviour is pretty predictable?

[14:56:30 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> pretty predictable with current captions handling?

[14:56:32 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes

[15:15:15 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Bosmon: was there anything else that you saw in the 4587 branch that should be changed or discussed?

[15:25:48 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> michelled

[15:25:52 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I'm testing out the branch now

[15:26:03 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I am noticing a styling issue where the video buttons jump around when they are highlighted

[15:26:18 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Actually only the volume button jumps

[15:26:33 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> More specifically, if I highlight the volume button, the other buttons jump DOWN

[15:26:58 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> This is using Firefox 10

[15:27:23 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Also, I notice that when the page first loads, it jumps to scroll down to the first video player on the page

[15:27:27 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> And then it jumps up to the top again

[15:28:04 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Also, when I press the "captions" button, it destroys the layout of the buttons

[15:28:31 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> The text "Turn Captions Off" juts out to the left of the button

[15:28:37 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Displacing all the buttons to the left

[15:28:54 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Bosmon: I think these are all issues in the current master

[15:28:59 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> ok

[15:29:08 CST(-0600)] <michelled> and I believe they should be fixed by the high fidelity branch anastasiac is working on

[15:29:22 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok

[15:29:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Also, I notice that captions stay on, even if I turn them off

[15:29:34 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Is that also a known issue?

[15:29:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> yes it is - there is a failing test for that and it should be fixed by the uber branch

[15:29:57 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> ok cool

[15:30:00 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I will push your changes then

[15:30:03 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it's currently fixed in anastasiac's part of the uber branch

[15:30:08 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thanks Bosmon!

[15:30:14 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I appreciate the review and testing

[15:31:31 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Urgh

[15:31:37 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Awful file locking issues on Windows

[15:31:44 CST(-0600)] <michelled> (sad)

[15:31:56 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> All the videos I have played have been "grabbed" by Firefox and it won't let them go

[15:32:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Luckily I eventually discovered a 64-bit "file handle nuclear detonation utility"

[15:32:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> You really wonder why the OS won't do it by itself

[15:33:44 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> yay

[15:33:55 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> For anyone who's interested, the utility is "Process Explorer" from Sysinternals

[15:34:06 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> It allows you to search the whole system for file handles by name, and forcibly close them

[15:34:06 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it sound useful

[15:34:19 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I suffered for more than 10 years before this utility (smile)

[15:34:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> In the worst cases, you just have to reboot your system to get them back

[15:34:40 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Now you don't even need to close the app which has them

[15:35:08 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> It turns out that contrary to Microsoft's fears, essentially all recent apps are written well enough not to explode on discovering their file handles are gone....

[15:37:27 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I'm glad I invested in that faster cable connection

[15:37:36 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok, all done

[15:37:40 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thanks!