fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-05-26

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[11:04:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Hey
[11:04:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Just a heads up that I responded to athena's rich text question on the list
[11:04:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Looks like there's an API for controlling CKEditor's behaviour
[11:04:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks colinclark (smile)
[11:04:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: (smile)
[11:05:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and that does look like it's probably the right thing
[11:05:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hopefully it works
[11:05:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> somehow the config options seem harder to find in ckeditor than fckeditor
[11:05:27 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i'll try it out
[11:05:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I can only imagine that you are using script tags for good rather than evil in this context
[11:05:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> do you know if there's a list somewhere of stuff that ckeditor takes out?
[11:05:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:05:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so the use case is a CMS portlet for uportal
[11:05:54 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's actually totally working already (smile)
[11:05:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:06:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> aweomse!
[11:06:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> trying to get it all cleaned up and documented
[11:06:03 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah!
[11:06:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> just using the rich text editor in config mode, basically (smile)
[11:06:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, I think that documentation page is probably the best source of all CKEditor's configuration options
[11:06:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> cool, thanks (smile)
[11:06:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so of course we'll ship the portlet w/ things like script, iframe, etc. disabled
[11:06:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Right
[11:06:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That's really exciting
[11:07:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, it's basically a portlet that lets authors edit basic Web content and post it into the portal?
[11:07:19 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but if someone wants to decide that they want to allow javascript in the content, and then locks it down so only admins can use it, i guess that's not totally insane and we should let them do it
[11:07:20 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yep
[11:07:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That's really great
[11:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and now that uportal has some delegated administration and lifecycle management features, i think it'll work out nicely
[11:07:37 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah (smile)
[11:07:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it's really simple right now
[11:07:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Letting them use JavaScript makes a lot of sense
[11:07:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> just persists content to the portlet preferences
[11:07:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Eventually you might even can some common stuff
[11:07:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Add a widget here"
[11:08:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> "Make this draggable"
[11:08:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That kind of thing
[11:08:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But an administrator should be able to inject a script tag without getting slapped on the wrist by CKEditor (wink)
[11:08:42 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah
[11:09:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so ideally we'll set it up so all the allowed tags and attributes are configured in the xml file for OWASP's AntiSamy
[11:09:15 EDT(-0400)] <athena> that way all the HTML sanitization is on the backend, which we want anyway
[11:10:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That makes sense to me
[11:10:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: So you're in Seattle now, eh?
[11:10:43 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes! it is unbelievably fantastic here
[11:10:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Congratulations on the move
[11:10:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> even if i'm a bit damp
[11:10:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> super cool
[11:10:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> for some unknown reason i forgot to bring a raincoat
[11:11:01 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks! i love it here
[11:11:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[11:11:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> i imagine raincoats are essential attire in seattle
[11:11:24 EDT(-0400)] <athena> everything is walkable, and it looks like we're going to have a spectacular view of mt rainier (you know, in a few weeks, when it's actually visible)
[11:11:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena> well, it doesn't actually rain hard
[11:11:49 EDT(-0400)] <athena> wore a light fleece w/ a hood to the coffee shop and that was actually fine
[11:12:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> not like in connecticut where your jeans wind up soaked up to the knee
[11:12:29 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but yeah, it's great here, and if any of you are ever in town for conferences or whatever you should drop me a line
[11:12:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lots of cool tech-y things going on here
[11:12:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and i've put a lake between me and microsoft (wink)
[11:16:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:17:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: I'll definitely drop you a line whenever I finally get to Seattle
[11:17:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It's definitely on my list of places to visit
[11:17:28 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
[11:17:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i can see the ship canal from the gym - it's pretty cool
[11:19:04 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> amazing
[11:21:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: So, Decapod question for you
[11:21:28 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure
[11:23:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So I've got Ubuntu all nicely installed
[11:24:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So is my next step to follow jhung's install "script" on the wiki
[11:25:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes, that will get you a running instance of Decapod 0.3
[11:25:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i've updated it to point at the new google code repo as well
[11:26:34 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> if you want the trunk version though then the installation will be slightly different and I don't think I've documented that yet
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[11:54:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bosmon2, michelled: Was there some thought of having a dev meeting today?
[11:54:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> I remember Seattle
[11:54:22 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> What stands out more in my mind is the pernicious one-way traffic system, than the rain (tongue)
[11:54:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, we were thinking of having a dev meeting
[11:55:08 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> the regular time conflicts with the cspace STIM today
[11:56:28 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> any chance we could meet after the STIM ends? It would be good to have anastasiac at the dev meeting
[11:56:52 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> ok, cool
[11:56:58 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> What/when is STIM?
[11:57:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> STIM = "short technical implementation meeting"
[11:57:15 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's a collectionspace meeting
[11:57:24 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we try to keep them to a half hour, but it could run longer
[11:57:42 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> it's in 3 minutes
[11:58:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled, anastasiac: Name your time
[11:59:39 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> 1:00 Eastern?
[11:59:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ok, works for me
[11:59:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That's 11 am your time, Bosmon2
[12:00:21 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> That's fine - although I will need to shoot off at perhaps 11:40 for lunch
[12:00:40 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> If we want a bit more time, we could edge it backwards a bit... dunno how much we will want to talk
[12:06:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let's hope the STIM ends early and we'll start it then
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[12:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> Bosmon2: The STIM is over, but we think colinclark is in transit. We're expecting he'll probably be here by 1pm ish (i.e. in about 10 minutes) so we're still hoping to have the dev meeting at around that time
[12:56:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> ok, see you shortly
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[13:04:05 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> So
[13:04:07 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> We ready to go?
[13:04:10 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmon2> Are we Breezing It?
[13:07:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> let's do it
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[14:59:35 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> jamon: wanna jump on skype?
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[15:01:49 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> was just moving to do that jessm
[15:02:00 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> excellent
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[15:48:17 EDT(-0400)] <athena> colinclark: so, i'm finding w/ the rich text editor that if i print out the value of "newValue" through an onFinishEdit event handler the javascript is in the string
[15:48:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but then it doesn't ever show up in the div
[15:49:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> and isn't in the textarea field
[15:52:15 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> colinclark, Justin_o: looks like cpan has a module to convert html to various wiki formats: http://search.cpan.org/~diberri/HTML-WikiConverter-0.61/lib/HTML/WikiConverter.pm
[15:53:24 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jamon: so you would export to html and then convert that to the new wiki format?
[15:53:47 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> Justin_o: as a start, then macros
[15:54:17 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i see... guess those would be by hand
[15:54:27 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> let's see, there's a twitter extension for that one, not sure about others
[15:55:03 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> list here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_Matrix/stable
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[16:10:10 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> colinclark, Justin_o, well decapod jira to into redmine works (wink) http://142.150.154.75:3000/projects/deca/issues http://142.150.154.75:3000/projects/deca/repository
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[16:15:34 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> login as admin/admin if you want to play around, not leaving it up long anyways
[16:15:35 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jamon: that was fast
[16:16:04 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> i had it already setup to convert the entire jira, figured to try on a per project basis, at least decapod converted
[16:16:22 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> i want to try engage next Justin_o
[16:16:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay... that makes sense
[16:16:57 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> faster than jira too?
[16:17:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> probably because it doesn't have all that ajax stuff going on
[16:18:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> is there a way to link issues?
[16:19:02 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> yeah, i think #001 etc.
[16:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i see... so you can refer to other issues
[16:20:08 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> revisions too using @, i don't recall the syntax exactly
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[16:30:38 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> thanks Justin_o
[16:30:52 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> r.e. jira to redmine, i think vulab might be the culprit (wink)
[16:31:55 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> really... that's interesting
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