fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-11-17

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[09:59:58 EST(-0500)] <clown> qwak!
[10:00:35 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> clown: I didn't know clown's quakked
[10:00:55 EST(-0500)] <clown> Justin_o: only if they have a harpo horn.
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[12:33:48 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> could anyone explain if use a CAPTION tag or a SCOPE attribute on a table fragment works as intended?
[12:34:13 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> sorry - I meant to say will using those things work as intended
[12:35:02 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> jacobfarber, by "work as intended", do you mean with respect to screen readers?
[12:35:39 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> yes
[12:35:46 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> i wouldnt think so
[12:36:00 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm... perhaps that's a question for Justin_o?
[12:36:04 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> I would think I need a caption per table
[12:36:25 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, I see what you were asking now
[12:36:36 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'd go by the spec for that tag
[12:36:46 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> is caption legal on a fragment?
[12:37:00 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> im having a hard time finding that out
[12:37:06 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> same thing for scope
[12:37:18 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> if its a fragment, then scope would break, right?
[12:37:50 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I don't know anything about scope!
[12:38:21 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> neither do i....Im just going according to this http://www.unc.edu/webaccess/training/tables/
[12:39:11 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> but nowhere does it say what happens when your trying to scope to column headers that are defined outside the current <table>
[12:39:22 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm
[12:39:29 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> I would think it useless, and therefore a waste
[12:39:36 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> but I dont know (tongue)
[12:39:37 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> perhaps some testing is in order? (wink)
[12:39:54 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> I will ask Justin_o when he comes back
[12:40:18 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> or I could fire up firevox and see what it does
[12:40:48 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> unfortunately, firevox doesn't tell you what JAWS would do (sad)
[12:41:10 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I think the source you've got is a reasonable one
[12:41:23 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> if it looks like it wouldn't work, it likely wouldn't work
[12:41:34 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> testing with JAWS is the only way to really be sure
[12:41:42 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> thanks!
[12:41:45 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> np
[12:44:16 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> ok, so acc. to the spec, when dancing around multiple fragments of tables its prolly best to use header="IDref"
[12:44:22 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> instead of "scope"
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[14:01:43 EST(-0500)] <jacobfarber> is there any major value in using a <button> instead of an <input type="button"> ?
[14:27:38 EST(-0500)] <jessm> anyone know who Tjhien Liao is?
[14:31:28 EST(-0500)] <jessm> from CARET it seems
[14:55:15 EST(-0500)] <sgithens342f> basman says he's cool
[14:55:29 EST(-0500)] <jessm> we like cool
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[16:02:47 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, you there?
[16:06:11 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: hello
[16:06:24 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> hi - are you heading out soon?
[16:06:36 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> do you have a few minutes to double-check something for me?
[16:06:41 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sur
[16:06:42 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> sure
[16:06:46 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://build.fluidproject.org/fluid/sample-code/inline-edit/announcements/announcements.html
[16:06:57 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> in FF3, does editing something cause any error?
[16:07:22 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> do i need to rebuild the site first?
[16:07:25 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> no
[16:07:42 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I don't know if my browser is screwy, or the code
[16:07:52 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled couldn't reproduce the error I'm getting
[16:07:58 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> so I want to know if it's just me
[16:08:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> seems fine
[16:08:51 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, that's good to know, at least
[16:08:57 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I guess I'm just special (smile)
[16:09:07 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> haha...
[16:09:17 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> yes, that's it - laugh
[16:09:24 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> (smile)
[16:09:38 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> we can check again tomorrow to verify (tongue)
[16:09:48 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> actually i may want to incase something is wrong with the buid
[16:10:16 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> k
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