fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-05-04

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[12:24:44 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: Are you still looking for PWDs to do user testing?
[12:25:06 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> Can anyone point me to a document explaining the reasons for the Fluid licensing choices?
[12:25:09 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> Yes I am.
[12:25:27 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> So far I've got two JAWS users lined up, on this week and one next.
[12:25:49 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> everettz: the choice of license or the license itself?
[12:26:10 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: I may be free to do Voiceover / JAWS testing tomorrow around noon, or anytime Wed. morning if you're interested.
[12:26:46 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> jessm: The choice of the license, why were the current licenses selected? Q comes from a ottawa drupal developer.
[12:28:19 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> everettz: i think the choice comes from the grant, written by the members of Fluid Academic – a number of academic community source apps use the ECL. Otherwise, I think it's safe to say we wanted a license that was less restrictive
[12:28:34 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> and more compatible with others' licenses
[12:28:39 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> everettz: HOw about Wednesday morning? .
[12:28:44 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> since implementation is our big concern
[12:29:13 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> everettz: do you have your own computer w/ JAWS installed?
[12:29:16 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> jessm: Thanks, that's what I told him the answer would likely be.
[12:29:32 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: I have a macbook with Voiceover and Windows / JAWS running in a VM.
[12:30:01 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: Wed. morning at ATRC (ground floor) would be a good place for me to meet up with you.
[12:30:31 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> everettz: around what time? I just need find a note-taker volunteer..
[12:31:09 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> The earlier the better for me, as I am heading to Cambridge in the afternoon. Pick the time and e-mail me at everett@zufelt.ca , and we can work out the details.
[12:32:14 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: I would imagine the user experience to be frustrating at best with Voiceove and Safari 4beta, but it will be useful feedback if you're interested. Otherwise, I can use FF3 and JAWS10.
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[12:34:17 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> everettz: I would use the environment you're most comfortable with - this way when you come across usabiliy issues you can be more certain that they are related to the component and not your screenreader/browswer combination ... what do you think?
[12:35:20 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: I'm comfortable wih each, Safari, the most popular OSX browser for Voiceover users, does have poor ARIA support.
[12:35:55 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: We can decide on Wed morning, I'll have access to each.
[12:48:54 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: something strange happened to my connection there. I can use either Voiceover or JAWS, shoot me an e-mail and we can work out the details for Wed. morning.
[12:49:03 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> everettz: I'll get back to you in a bit about the time Wed morning. I'm just going to email Pat to make sure we can use the space.
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[15:31:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurelw: One quick clarification about your changes to the dependency declaration JSON files...
[15:31:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> When you say in your emails that you've "rewritten" the JSON, it's unclear what aspects have changed.
[15:32:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Superficially, it seems like you've basically added name and description and the list of CSS files.
[15:32:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> If you do find yourself changing anything that was there, it's worth highlighting that in your email.
[15:32:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That'll be clearer when you have a patch, for sure.
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[15:48:09 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> colinclark: I'm free all Wed. Morning, currently planning on user testing with Alison 10-11am, but would like the project to make the best use of my skills for the few hours I'm available.
[15:48:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> everettz: Great!
[15:48:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let me check my calendar for Wednesday.
[15:53:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> everettz: Shall we meet up after your meeting with Alison?
[15:54:14 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> colinclark: Sounds good, I'm likely available until around 1pm.
[15:54:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> everettz: Okay, great.
[15:54:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> alisonbenjamin, does that work for you?
[15:55:10 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> yes it does.
[15:56:00 EDT(-0400)] <everettz> alisonbenjamin: Alright, I'll meet you Wed, just before 10am at the front door of the library, and then we can find Colin after.
[15:56:20 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> Looking forward to it!
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[17:02:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> justin_o: are you there?
[17:02:37 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> hello
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[17:02:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> i'm here
[17:03:05 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: ^
[17:03:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm wondering about the 'fluidRegExp' property in the ant script
[17:03:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> what is it used for?
[17:04:15 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> that one is used to find fluid.js and it's path so that it can be replaced by the single js file
[17:04:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ah, makes sense. thanks
[17:04:42 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> for example if the path is ../../../framework/core/js/Fluid.js it will become ../../../InfusionAll.js
[17:05:16 EDT(-0400)] * michelled realizes that if she'd read justin_o's comments she wouldn't have to ask him. doh
[17:05:33 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> (smile)
[17:06:25 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> your commit looks good
[17:06:27 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> you can close that bug
[17:07:38 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: thanks
[17:07:46 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> np.
[17:07:56 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> also, I'm wondering about FLUID-2482
[17:08:16 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I fixed 2425 and I wonder if I can close 2482 now
[17:08:39 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: i'll take a look
[17:08:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thx
[17:09:40 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: has that been committed already
[17:11:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes
[17:11:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it was only a change to the sakai example
[17:11:40 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... i'll rebuild the daily build site...
[17:11:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> there is no dialog in the template of course
[17:12:10 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> michelled: hmm... i'm thinking then that FLUID-2482 will still be an issue when there is no dialog present
[17:15:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> interesting justin_o. But I wonder what we'd do in the no dialog case.
[17:16:32 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> I think Antranig made the suggestion of changing reset to be called "defaults" what do you think of that?
[17:17:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm not sure about it. Does it sound a bit techy?
[17:18:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Gary had been fairly outspoken about avoiding the word "default," wasn't he?
[17:19:23 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yes, he was.
[17:19:32 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yup
[17:19:41 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> we've spoken about this a great deal, I think
[17:19:55 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay... i'm not sure at the moment of a better way.... i'll try to think about it though
[17:20:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks. I'll leave the issue alone for now.
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[17:21:07 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> okay
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