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[09:10:42 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: any issues with me giving FLUID-2650 a try?
[09:11:58 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 looks up 2650
[09:12:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sure, give it a shot!
[09:12:52 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> do you think it is a css issue or a code issue?
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[10:00:27 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: got a moment to discuss the sakai example with me?
[10:00:40 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[10:01:04 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> so in the initDialog function there are two "positionings" of the dialog
[10:01:24 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yup
[10:01:43 EDT(-0400)]

<laurel> 1) $('#dialog_container').css(

Unknown macro: {left}

);


[10:02:00 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 2) dialog_container.dialog('option', 'position', 'center');
[10:02:27 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> can you quickly go over the impact of these two settings
[10:02:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> which 2?
[10:03:12 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 1 and 2
[10:03:34 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> mentioned above?
[10:03:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok, so their function calls, essentially - each setting position data for the dialog
[10:03:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> one does it after load, one before
[10:04:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> we need both because the dialog is centered once when its displayed, then recentererd based on the content dimensions
[10:04:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> which is dynamic and always changing
[10:04:47 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...so which one is the dynamic one?
[10:05:02 EDT(-0400)] * fj4000 cracks open the code
[10:05:52 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> is the css one, the one that is supposed to reposition each time?
[10:06:02 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> or the jquery one?
[10:07:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> there is no repositioning each time - these #s are only established once
[10:07:35 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> so why do we position with css and then with jquery .dialog
[10:07:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> its only on before and after the ajax call (which only happens once) that both of these are needed
[10:07:55 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> oh, ok, i get it
[10:08:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i think
[10:08:24 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> can we skype for a sec?
[10:08:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> once the ajax call is complete and the dialog is shown for the first time, the jquery dialog then finds the best numbers for each subsequent "opening"
[10:08:46 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so thats something jquery ui takes care of after that
[10:13:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> laurel: yknow, now that im looking at it
[10:13:14 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: nope
[10:13:23 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i wonder if you could get away without the css() call
[10:13:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> and just use the dialog(option, position, center) thing
[10:13:58 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> well thats what I was wondering...if it had any impact. I'm just not seeing any change when I remove it or change the left and top elements
[10:14:06 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yeah....
[10:14:11 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> grin
[10:14:12 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i think its a remnant
[10:14:25 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> before this code flowed the way it does now
[10:14:27 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...well I will play some more then
[10:14:39 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
[10:31:08 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> laurel: you might want to update your codebase
[10:31:23 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i just commited some stuff for the sakai demo, which may/may not affect you
[10:32:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> speaking of which, could someone take a peak at my commit for FLUID-2380?
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[10:39:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: Morning.
[10:45:40 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> hi
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[10:46:39 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: So our UI Options infinite recursion problem.
[10:46:43 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> yes
[10:47:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We're sort of stuck between two events with this particular implementation, so fixes can be awkward.
[10:47:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have a couple of strategies for you to try out.
[10:48:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Ultimately, UI Options itself probably needs to have its cancel() API broken out into a second public method: something that would allow you to throw away state while closing the dialog without going through it all.
[10:48:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Anyway, that'll be for post-1.1.
[10:48:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In the meantime, a strategy that will undoubtedly do the trick:
[10:49:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Bind your dialog.close() handlers to the Save and Cancel buttons themselves, rather than to UI Option's own onSave and onCancel events.
[10:49:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, let's assume you've already got an instance of UI options assigned to the variable uiOptions.
[10:49:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> You can do something like this:
[10:50:00 EDT(-0400)]

<colinclark> uiOptions.locate("cancel").click(function ()

Unknown macro: { dialog.close() }

);


[10:50:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> and similarly for the save button, which is called "save," if I remember correctly.
[10:50:45 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> makes sense
[10:50:49 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> will give it a go
[10:57:27 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: hello, do you have some time to talk about your patch
[10:58:23 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: hi Justin_o, yes, I just installed win in vertualbox and setup aptana and all and I was looking at the IE error you mentioned yesterday
[10:59:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: hello... i think I've figured that one out... it was the <dd> tags that you used... I think you may need to wrap them in <dl>'s first.... I just switched them to <p> instead
[11:00:11 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: really and it solved the issue?
[11:00:26 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yes.. i believe so... let me go try it again to make sure
[11:01:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: yes, it solves the problem
[11:01:36 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: great (smile), so I ll fix it and resubmit the patch then
[11:01:57 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: yep there were a couple of other things as well...
[11:02:53 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> 1) it is still calling in jquery.selectbox-0.5.js I think this was only used for the dropdown inline edit
[11:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> 2) instead of creating a new directory and files for the example, you can probably just replace the ones that we were going to remove from the quick start example
[11:04:09 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> 3) you can probably remove the .combination-table from the css file since it isn't setting anything
[11:05:24 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: this is smth Jacob suggested to make the text in table columns top-vertical aligned, so it looks nicer when cells are expanded by the editors
[11:06:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> 4) you may want to think about refactoring the js file a bit... currently you have a demo.initInlineEdit which defines inlineEditSetup and then calls it right away... what you could do is have two init functions one for simple text, and one for rich text... then just call these functions in the demo.initInlineEdit function
[11:07:10 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: sounds good
[11:07:24 EDT(-0400)]

<Justin_o> for point 3, I don't mean you should remove the class, just that you don't need to mention it in the css file... because i imagine you are doing the work in the combination-table td

Unknown macro: {...}

statement


[11:09:03 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: does that all make sense? I am not necessarily correct in all those suggestions... so feel free to argue any of your reasons
[11:09:08 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yeah, .combination-table {} itself didnt do anything, if I remember
[11:09:26 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it was the .combination-table TD {} part that set the style
[11:10:27 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: yes it makes sense (smile)
[11:11:42 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: okay... let me know if you have any questions
[11:11:50 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: ok
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[11:33:55 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: did you make recent changes to css for sakai demo? suddenly the dialog title is translucent.
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[11:36:22 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: and wow - it's back again...i think i'm losing my mind
[11:43:03 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> alisonbenjamin: you can see if these sliders are screen reader accessiblehttp://dojotoolkit.org/book/dojo-book-0-9/part-2-dijit/form-validation-specialized-input/slider
[11:43:30 EDT(-0400)] <alisonbenjamin> cool. I'll fire up Jaws..
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[12:04:19 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: hey Justin , could you please review my patch I just posted for http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-1945
[12:05:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: sure thanks, will do (I have a some other stuff to get to as well, so sorry if it ends up taking a bit of time, but I'll do it as soon as I can)
[12:06:09 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: no problem at all (smile), I ll start working on other issues
[12:06:34 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: thanks... oh there was one that i was talking with bosmon about, regarding pager and sorting
[12:07:14 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2637
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[12:47:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> laurel: did you do a full update?
[12:47:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> there was a lot of jquery stuff to take care of all the colors
[12:47:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> without it, i think you would have a very weird dialog
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[13:01:08 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: no worries
[13:01:19 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: do you use ie8?
[13:01:28 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> no
[13:01:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> but i test in it
[13:01:46 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> it is grumbling about letting me look at a localhost web page
[13:01:50 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> and won't let me
[13:08:58 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ever tried?
[13:11:49 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...found the solution: tools, options, connections, lan settings, check automatically detect settings. yeesh
[13:18:44 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> Justin_o: just uploaded a patch for 2650
[13:19:23 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> laurel: thanks
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[14:20:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: hello
[14:20:53 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: hey Justin_o
[14:23:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> hi Yura, I can only see 1 thing that you could change... you don't have to nest all of the code in the demo.initInlineEdit function... only two lines need to go in there inlineSimpleEditSetup(); and inlineRichTextEditSetup();
[14:24:16 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: the clickToDegrade functionality that Colin and I added is very cool, but there is something that's bugging me about it
[14:24:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> also have you run this through jslint.org yet... don't know if it needs it or not
[14:24:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> elicochran: okay
[14:25:05 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> since it injects the enhance/deenhance element into the DOM from code, it makes it rather DOM specific
[14:25:19 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> I think that it should be refactored to use DOM that is already there
[14:25:25 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> for the link
[14:25:48 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> letting the developer decide where and how they want to render the click link
[14:25:55 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> what do you think?
[14:26:21 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> the links can be part of our template so that we'll have an example of how to do it
[14:26:40 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i see... the actual link that you click to change the state of the component degraded/enhanced is added programattically
[14:27:12 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> instead of being attached to a DOM element specified by a selector
[14:27:16 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> yes
[14:27:39 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> your arguement would seem to make sense to me.
[14:27:42 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> and it's hard coded DOM in a hard coded position
[14:27:54 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> it's making me grumpy (tongue)
[14:28:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> (smile)
[14:28:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> is that a component in itself or is it something else?
[14:28:54 EDT(-0400)] <hydee> jamon : has anything changed on redmine that would affect logging in? i tried the pwsd reminder and it doesn't recognize my email anymore... thoughts?
[14:29:47 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: it's not really a component... more of simple decorator
[14:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> so it is more like undo
[14:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> yes
[14:30:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay
[14:30:37 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> it doesn't really make sense as written to be a component on it's own
[14:30:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i see
[14:31:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> do you know if undo injects a DOM element for the button?
[14:31:09 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> in much the same way that the progressiveEnhancable code is specific to Uploader at this time but should be abstracted
[14:31:19 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> Justin_o: yes it does
[14:31:32 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> I can't remember what choices you have
[14:31:35 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> as a developer
[14:31:41 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> I'll go look
[14:32:43 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> I wonder then if this is a larger more general issue... i.e. decorators should be more like components in how they attach to the DOM
[14:32:46 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> ah yes, there you have a "defaultRenderer"
[14:32:56 EDT(-0400)] <elicochran> that you can override
[14:33:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> oh right ... you can change the renderer used
[14:33:17 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> so something like that would work here i guess
[14:36:53 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: I uploaded the patch with final refactoring (smile)
[14:37:06 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> yura: thanks... i'll take a look at it
[14:37:14 EDT(-0400)] <yura> Justin_o: thanks
[14:41:36 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> reviewing: 2380
[14:51:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> laurel: thanks
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[15:23:44 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: I'm reviewing 2380 but am still getting translucent dialog title bar, etc.
[15:24:15 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> have you updated recently?
[15:25:37 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> yes...about 10 mins ago
[15:25:48 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> more recently than that?
[15:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> no
[15:26:26 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> can you im me a screenshot?
[15:31:16 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> http://www.fluidproject.org/ui-options/
[15:31:19 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> go there instead
[15:31:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> easier (wink)
[15:35:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> fj4000: do you need that page to stay intact for a bit, or can I keep coding on it?
[15:35:52 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im just seeing it now
[15:36:01 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> lets keep it for a little bit
[15:36:03 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...i'll hold until you are ready
[15:36:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so this has no bg ?
[15:36:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok, i see what you mean
[15:36:49 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> in opera the example is broken
[15:36:53 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> it has bg...its the title bar issue
[15:36:58 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok..that's not good
[15:37:35 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> are you planning on keeping this a jquery dialog?
[15:37:43 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> yes
[15:37:56 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> reason why I wouldn't?
[15:38:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> other than it doesn't quite work yet?
[15:38:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> nope - but then your missig all the jquery ui css
[15:39:15 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> not quite sure what you mean...do you mean I need to style it?
[15:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> no - jquery UI already does this
[15:39:30 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> see the sakai demo
[15:39:42 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> your missing a lot of files
[15:39:56 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> all the stuff found in lib/jquery/ui/css
[15:39:58 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i think
[15:40:17 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...maybe the tutorial missed those files?
[15:40:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i'll check
[15:40:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the tutorial is out of date - those are all new
[15:40:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> for 1.1
[15:41:16 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/UI+Options+and+UI+Enhancer+Tutorial#UIOptionsandUIEnhancerTutorial-step7
[15:42:19 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...well I'm updating the tutorial, so perhaps you could fill me in on what is required to get the dialog styling added..what should i check in the sakai demo, the html page?
[15:42:50 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> sure
[15:43:01 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> look at the <head> tag
[15:43:14 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you should notice several references to jquery
[15:43:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> jquery ui css files with the word "custom" in them
[15:43:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> those are new
[15:44:00 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the lib/jquery/ui/css folder had several folders with all this new data
[15:44:03 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> css + images
[15:44:07 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../../lib/jquery/ui/css/fl-theme-coal/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.css" />
[15:44:07 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../../lib/jquery/ui/css/fl-theme-mist/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.css" />
[15:44:07 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../../lib/jquery/ui/css/fl-theme-slate/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.css" />
[15:44:07 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../../lib/jquery/ui/css/fl-theme-hc/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.css" />
[15:44:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="../../../lib/jquery/ui/css/fl-theme-hci/jquery-ui-1.7.1.custom.css" />
[15:44:13 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 5 files?
[15:44:20 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> yuppers
[15:44:35 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> and do they require me to be using one of the themes?
[15:44:47 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> because on the website, I am not
[15:44:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> dont forget to mention the folders above ^^^
[15:45:16 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you need the images too
[15:45:23 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok.
[15:45:37 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> again though, do I need to be using one of the themes?
[15:46:06 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> if your using jquery ui css already, no
[15:46:28 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i'm not sure what that means
[15:46:33 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> but i dont think you have jquery css in your demo
[15:46:38 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> it means 2 things
[15:47:02 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> IF you use jquery UI stuff (like a dialog) you need one of 2 things
[15:47:40 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> FSS + jQuery UI CSS + images and/or jQuery UI CSS + images
[15:47:47 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> so either way
[15:47:54 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> you cannot use a jquery ui dialog
[15:48:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> without including their CSS + images too
[15:48:11 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> or else you get what you have now
[15:48:14 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i'm not sure if jQuery UI css is a jquery thing or somethign I get from infusion
[15:48:17 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> which is an incomplete dialog
[15:48:27 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im not sure
[15:48:40 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> skype...i'm not sure I
[15:48:46 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> understand you
[15:49:04 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> your right - you need those packages, and i dont know if we offer them ourselves
[15:49:29 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> the only way i know you can get a full jqUI css and image package is to download one from them
[15:49:36 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> from seomthing like themeroller
[15:49:51 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> or, you could use everything i have made for our themes
[15:50:03 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> i pre-built them too
[15:50:21 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> could you skype with me...i'm a bit lost
[15:50:31 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> ok
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[16:49:59 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> yura: just committed your patch for FLUID-1945
[16:50:16 EDT(-0400)] <yura> justin_o: awesome (smile), thanks
[16:50:25 EDT(-0400)] <justin_o> thank you
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