fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-06-09

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[11:58:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jamon: hello, just wondering how the upgrading of confluence and jira is going? were you able to get everything you needed to start testing it out?
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[13:21:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hey fluid folks
[13:22:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i think i've discovered a nasty bug w/ fluid.fetchResources
[13:22:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh dear!
[13:22:17 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> do go on...
[13:22:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if you request a page that returns 200 OK with blank content, it loops re-requesting the page forever and ever
[13:22:51 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Ah
[13:22:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> try using it to request a page that you've created by doing just "touch foo.html" or whatever
[13:23:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> How unfortunate
[13:23:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yes (smile)
[13:23:18 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Would you like to JIRA this (tongue)
[13:23:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> sure, i'll do that
[13:23:27 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> I will make a resolution as soon as possible
[13:23:48 EDT(-0400)] <athena> also, it'd be nice if the method maybe let you inject an alternate error-handling method
[13:23:48 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Since we dearly love our users
[13:23:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> We do them all the good we can
[13:24:01 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Yet everybody says I'm such a disagreeable man!
[13:24:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> as it appears that the specified function isn't called on a 404
[13:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <athena> lol
[13:24:06 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> And I can't think why (I can't think why)
[13:24:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i <3 you all
[13:24:14 EDT(-0400)] <athena> you know that
[13:24:15 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> WE CAN'T, THINK, WHYYY!
[13:24:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
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[13:24:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> http://math.boisestate.edu/gas/princess_ida/webop/pi_06.html
[13:24:52 EDT(-0400)] <athena> should i also request an error-handling method, or is that specified method supposed to be called even if the page returns a 404?
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[13:25:12 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Well.... the idea is that "all" resources are fetched
[13:25:13 EDT(-0400)] <athena> nice Bosmo1 (smile)
[13:25:29 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> So you have one "overall" callback, that allows you to check individual error statuses
[13:25:41 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[13:25:42 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> To be honest, I wasn't really sure which style of error handling people would prefer
[13:25:51 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm fine with either way
[13:25:57 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> But I guess it makes sense, that you would want an "error" callback in the case of even a single failure
[13:26:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> so should i also record it as an error that the function isn't called in that case?
[13:26:30 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i'm completely fine w/ having the overall callback called when there's an error
[13:26:31 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> The function?
[13:26:34 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> It isn't called!
[13:26:39 EDT(-0400)] <athena> it doesn't seem to be
[13:26:53 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> sheesh
[13:27:02 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Who wrote this junk (tongue)
[13:27:04 EDT(-0400)] <athena> want me to log those as separate issues (smile)
[13:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <athena> hehe
[13:27:09 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Yes, please do
[13:27:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> no problem
[13:27:22 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks!
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[13:28:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> should these be classified as being in the renderer component?
[13:28:16 EDT(-0400)] <athena> or is there a better match?
[13:28:32 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> I guess this is probably more "framework" than renderer
[13:28:38 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Although it currently does live in the renderer files
[13:28:40 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok
[13:29:20 EDT(-0400)] <zh> Hello I am new to fluid and I have a question regarding the latest release – Adds jQuery UI Themes for working with FSS themes. What does this really mean, I have seen a Jira ticket FLUID-2380 and it was about some conflict... is that what above feature means? or is it more then that. Sorry I haven't tried Fluid yet.
[13:30:13 EDT(-0400)] <jamon> Justin_o: i got a login from michelle, yes
[13:30:38 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> zh: the jquery ui themes are to compliment the existing FSS themes
[13:30:49 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> complement (tongue)
[13:31:20 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> if your using jquery UI and FSS themes, then you dont need to worry about styling their material
[13:31:45 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> "their" being jquery UI components
[13:32:05 EDT(-0400)] <zh> i see. cool. So the best place to start will be the twitter example then?
[13:32:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jamon: good to hear... if you need anything else please let me know and I'll try to track it down for you
[13:32:19 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> im not 100% familiar with the twitter example
[13:32:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ok Bosmo1 - bug #1 (infinite loop) logged at http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2934
[13:32:34 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> zh: i would look more to the sakai integration demo with ui options
[13:32:46 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> zh, where to start probably depends on what you want to do
[13:32:52 EDT(-0400)] <zh> yes i have seen that.
[13:33:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if you're interested in styling, the FSS tutorials are a good place to start
[13:33:43 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> if you're interested in using the components, pick a component and start with its tutorial
[13:33:50 EDT(-0400)] <zh> Well basically I really like some of the demo which I can use for my Software as Service project. i.e. let the customer decide how he wants to design his page.
[13:34:34 EDT(-0400)] <athena> Bosmo1: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2935 for the 404 error
[13:34:47 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> which demos caught your eye, zh?
[13:34:53 EDT(-0400)] <zh> its called the UI option demo.
[13:35:11 EDT(-0400)] <zh> http://fluidproject.org/releases/1.1/components/uiOptions/html/UIOptions.html
[13:35:30 EDT(-0400)] <zh> I see this after the customer have selected the theme he wants then this page..
[13:35:39 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> ah, ok. There is a UI Options tutorial
[13:35:45 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> that might give you some info
[13:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <zh> yes, we are using jQuery UI heavily so I wanted to confirm if there were any conflict before diving in..
[13:36:40 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> also, the uPortal Mock-up has quick-links to switching themes
[13:37:03 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> http://build.fluidproject.org/infusion/integration-demos/uportal/html/portal.html
[13:37:09 EDT(-0400)] <zh> yes i saw that too. may I ask how long is this project is been alive?
[13:37:20 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> the Fluid project started 2 years ago
[13:38:04 EDT(-0400)] <zh> wow.. i just came across it today (smile)
[13:39:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> We just released our 1.0 milestone recently
[13:39:27 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> so we haven't been that public for that long
[13:40:19 EDT(-0400)] <fj4000> zh: just out of curiosity, how did you happen to find Fluid?
[13:40:23 EDT(-0400)] <zh> now i understand. but interestingly i think your niche is what got me hooked
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[13:41:26 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the current uPortal release is using fluid for it's drag-and-drop layout reordering, and will use it more extensively in it's next release
[13:41:32 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> athena: Thanks so much
[13:41:33 EDT(-0400)] <zh> I found through google was looking for usability, user flow and theme..
[13:41:45 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> I will look at it just as soon as I have got some Yoghut
[13:41:51 EDT(-0400)] <Bosmo1> Yghurt
[13:51:42 EDT(-0400)] <zh> Thank you for the answer. I am going to start building a twitter component (smile) Lets see how far I go before I end up here again!
[13:51:44 EDT(-0400)] <zh> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/How+to+Create+a+Fluid+Component
[13:51:54 EDT(-0400)] <zh> bye for now.
[13:52:10 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> zh, any time!
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