fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-11-10

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[09:03:51 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> michelled, FYI I'm also looking into "j-media element" as well as the Kaltura player

[09:40:04 CST(-0600)] <michelled> anastasiac: thx - I've created a JIRA on where we can comment on the various players we look into: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4535

[09:40:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> great, thanks michelled

[09:43:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> anastasiac: np - I've also updated the Floe plan page based on our coffee conversation: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Floe+Iteration+Plan

[09:47:39 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> michelled and anastasiac: Do you have a shortlist of interesting video players?

[09:48:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Also, michelled, are you thinking that you'll get in touch with Tona to also define our "minimum viable user experience" for these video delivery components?

[09:48:32 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> colinclark, we're working on coming up with that shortlist right now. so far, we're looking at video js, kaltura and jme.

[09:48:43 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Cool

[09:48:45 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Those are good ones

[09:49:02 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> michelled has stepped away from her desk, but yes, we were talking about defining the minimum viable user experience asap

[09:49:15 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think the Unicon folks know quite a bit about Kaltura

[09:49:37 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think AZ in particular, but maybe also athena

[09:49:54 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> excellent, thanks for the referneces

[09:51:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I guess the interesting thing, when we're reviewing video players, is to see if one will be particularly amenable to wrapping with additional functionality

[09:51:38 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm thinking that we probably don't need (or perhaps want) a video player that has every feature

[09:52:10 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> colinclark, yes, that's what we're focusing on

[09:52:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but more one that will be amenable to wrapping as an Infusion component and then wiring up to other components (borrowed or created) for captions, synchronized transcripts, Universal Subtitles, etc.

[09:52:41 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> right - we're considering things like the community activity, etc

[09:52:42 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> There are lots of bits and pieces that are quite curious, which I haven't quite fully pieced together strategically

[09:53:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Given my experience with how to handle fallbacks, I found this project quite interesting: http://mediaelementjs.com/

[09:53:58 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> This WebVTT caption track polyfill is also curious: https://github.com/cgiffard/Captionator

[09:54:12 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> How all the pieces fit together, with a full-featured video player, I'm not so sure on

[09:54:16 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> but we'll figure it out

[09:54:58 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> We should certainly also consider Charly's video player for its merits, and whether we're better off continuing to grow that

[09:55:08 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> or take pieces from it and wire them up to another player

[09:55:08 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> etc.

[09:55:12 CST(-0600)] <michelled> colinclark: I'm back now

[09:55:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It'll be interesting and fun to figure this one out

[09:55:18 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> hi

[09:55:32 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I actually just sent a message to the list about meeting on Monday to talk about existing players we've looked at

[09:56:20 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I'm hoping through that conversation we can get down to a very short list or perhaps even select the one we want to use

[09:58:00 CST(-0600)] <michelled> colinclark: I also sent a message to jameswy and tona asking them about a minimum viable product. I'm hoping to catch jameswy today to determine when we could discuss that further

[09:58:43 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Cool

[09:59:01 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Minimum Viable User Experience

[09:59:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Beware the P word. (wink)

[10:00:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I remember, once, a table of HTML5 video players

[10:00:36 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> with a comparison of their various features

[10:00:40 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> have you guys run into that before?

[10:03:41 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> colinclark, this one? http://html5video.org/wiki/HTML5_Player_Comparison

[10:04:16 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I think it was the one they cite on this page

[10:04:21 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> This one: http://praegnanz.de/html5video/

[10:04:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> But the more, the better.

[10:35:06 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Audio is just completely dismal on Connect today

[10:35:27 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> My update is this: I'm working on the next draft of our server RFP for the Inclusive Design Institute today

[10:36:08 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> And I look forward to the day when Adobe kills desktop Flash, too, so we won't have to deal with the poor quality of Connect (tongue)