fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-11-25

[12:27:17 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: do you know if you can't use the "{}" for calling listeners in demands

[12:27:43 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> it seems to call a global function but will not attach the listener when i try to specify it like that

[12:29:24 CST(-0600)] <yura> hmm

[13:49:19 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Hey Justin_o, is the new version of VMWare 4 King-approved at this point?

[13:50:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: What version of Node.js do you recommend? Stable or latest?

[13:50:49 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> colinclark: (smile) yes.. i really like vmware fusion 4

[13:51:02 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> there's an update…4.1 or something

[13:51:05 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> it's okay?

[13:51:07 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> it works well with multiple monitors too

[13:51:26 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yep, i'm at 4.1.1

[13:51:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> okay, great

[13:51:32 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> thanks!

[14:02:08 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: working on removing the artefacts for new sessions

[14:02:27 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> so basically on page load it will call the deletion of the book resource

[14:02:33 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> which will clear things out on the server side

[14:02:45 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> is that what you were hoping for

[14:02:50 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: ^

[14:03:48 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> Yes. That works for me justin_o.

[14:04:10 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: thanks.. i'll push that up now

[14:05:09 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> great.

[14:05:19 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> Should I push up changes to genpdf?

[14:05:45 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: it's up

[14:05:49 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: sure i think so

[14:05:56 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> okay.

[14:05:59 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> then we should also push up the changes for the install script too

[14:06:01 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> oh one thing

[14:06:19 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> for the change to setup.py that you had.. can we put all of those extra files into the same list

[14:06:34 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> instead of concatenating list of individual dependency names

[14:07:13 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: ^

[14:08:03 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> sure. justin_o

[14:08:38 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: did you try creating the other types of pdfs

[14:08:40 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> ?

[14:08:51 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> I haven't yet.

[14:09:08 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> Let me pull down your changes....

[14:09:17 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: okay

[14:09:26 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> i'll work on the path for the pdf download now

[14:10:03 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> once we're done we'll have to update the master repo to point to these new versions.

[14:10:06 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> justin_o

[14:23:25 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Hey clown, do you ever do any GNOME development in a virtual machine?

[14:23:38 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> just pushed out changes to genpdf justin_o.

[14:23:51 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> going to pull in your changes now and try type 2 and 3 pdf

[14:24:16 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung2: thanks

[14:26:25 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> justin_o: Can you help me find the jira # for the server not terminating properly? (i.e. you need to kill it using the kill -9 PID command).

[14:26:46 CST(-0600)] <clown> colinclark, rarely. it's the video card problem — GNOME Shell requires 3d graphics, and neither VMWare nor VirutalBox work well.

[14:27:12 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> I'm noticing that, clown (sad)

[14:27:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> People seem to have made it work in VirtualBox, but do you think it's going to be problematic?

[14:27:51 CST(-0600)] <clown> In VMWare, I get "black-on-black" running the shell. Black windows with black borders, and black title bars and black checkboxes. Very difficult to see what's going on, colinclark (smile)

[14:28:00 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> terrible!

[14:28:12 CST(-0600)] <jhung2> justin_o: getting that "Image width is zero in IHDR" error again. Did we commit the changes to the TIFF conversion too?

[14:28:39 CST(-0600)] <clown> I got it working once in VB, but it was verrrry slow. It took seconds for a mouse movement to catch up.

[14:29:27 CST(-0600)] * clown would love to be able to have a virtual GNOME desktop on my laptop to do this development.

[14:30:43 CST(-0600)] <clown> colinclark: a quote from the horse's mouth: "To run GNOME Shell inside a virtual machine would require good 3D support, and we don't know of any virtualization system that can handle it. In particular, problems have been reported with the GNOME Shell and the 3D support in VirtualBox."

[14:31:03 CST(-0600)] <clown> http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/#Building

[14:31:04 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> It's sort of bizarre

[14:31:28 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Since I found another GNOME Shell page, a FAQ answering the question "Why do you require 3D acceleration?"

[14:31:54 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> And the answer included a comment about how many virtual machine systems have "good 3D acceleration, such as VirtualBox, VMWare, and Parallels"

[14:33:04 CST(-0600)] <clown> I wonder if it's worth it to find out who wrote that, and ask them to show us how it's done.

[14:36:02 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: no we didn't

[14:36:12 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: i can add that back in soon

[14:36:39 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: I think it may be causing Type 2 to fail.

[14:37:06 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay..

[14:38:54 CST(-0600)] <clown> while I think of it jhung and Justin_o, have a safe (and comfortable) flight!

[14:41:39 CST(-0600)] <jhung> clown: thanks!

[14:41:54 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> clown: thanks (smile)

[14:42:52 CST(-0600)] <clown> wlcm guys. have fun, too.

[15:08:52 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: I'm going to nuke the VM that's on the Lenovo.

[15:09:03 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Need to box it up sometime. (big grin)

[15:10:23 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. poor vm

[15:11:24 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: it served its purpose. I have a VM set up on my own machine to test 0.5a when it's tagged.

[15:12:14 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: cool

[15:12:18 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> we might be tagging tomorrow

[15:12:47 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Tomorrow? I don't think we'll have time...

[15:13:23 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I guess we can do it from YYZ while we're waiting... justin_o

[15:13:30 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: yep.. that's what i was thinking

[15:14:17 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Realistically we won't be needing Decapod 0.5a until Tuesday the earliest... so we do have a little time.

[15:15:27 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: just pushed changes to the server

[15:15:37 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> i might have pushed something for the ui just before too, can't remember now

[15:15:48 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> anyways.. that should take care of the conversion and the download path

[15:15:55 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> so if everything is working, the we can tag

[15:16:07 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> or move it to googlecode anyways

[15:16:13 CST(-0600)] <jhung> okay

[15:16:26 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I'll test it now justin_o.

[15:16:27 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: did you make the changes to the install scripts already too?

[15:17:01 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Not all.

[15:17:15 CST(-0600)] <jhung> We need to update the URL for iulib.

[15:17:21 CST(-0600)] <jhung> But I think that was it.

[15:18:08 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: is it the one from your e-mail

[15:20:04 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o: yes.

[15:20:39 CST(-0600)] <jhung> did you push everything to default or will I need to pull from your repo too?

[15:20:51 CST(-0600)] <jhung> ^justin_o

[15:21:56 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: i didn't push up the default repo anywhere, i've been committing from there so my should be up to date