fluid-work IRC Logs-2008-05-23

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[10:49:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac, michelled: I just got some interesting feedback from someone who was playing around with the Fluid 0.3 beta.
[10:49:13 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> oh? cool! what?
[10:51:11 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> keeping us in suspense, are you, colinclark?
[10:51:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yes, sorry...
[10:51:28 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> still in a meeting, so typing slow. (smile)
[10:52:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> anastasiac, michelled: So they were confused about the download bundle. They went to check out the source code and learn a bit about how it works...
[10:54:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But, not knowing a lot about JavaScript, were super-confused by the minification.
[10:56:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> well, especially because the beta was obfuscated too. I think Jon has removed the obfuscation now.
[10:56:37 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> yes, but it sounds like we need a bit of clarification on the downloads page
[10:56:53 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> loosely quoting Crockford: there are enough bugs in software we don't need to possibly add more by obfuscating.
[10:56:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So do you think we should also ship clear source with the bundle?
[10:57:14 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark thinks quoting Crockford is awesome.
[10:57:16 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> i'd vote two shipments
[10:57:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> phiggins: Thanks. Two separate packages?
[10:58:12 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> we should check just what is in the package now that we're not obfuscating
[10:58:54 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> release and src
[10:58:54 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> if i had a say (wink)
[10:59:02 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> yah.
[10:59:10 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> and make a note at download page:
[10:59:21 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> a) for testing/inspecting/debugging b) for release
[10:59:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> that makes sense to me.
[11:00:06 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> i also had great luck automating jquery code using dojo's build system
[11:00:18 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> i don't know what the state of affairs is there for you all
[11:00:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> phiggins: Cool, thanks for the advice.
[11:01:05 EDT(-0400)] <phiggins> colinclark: yah i meant to say: I've had luck compressing and obfuscating jq plugins much like dojo's layers
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[13:03:08 EDT(-0400)] <RayDavis> colinclark: I checked and an email I sent to fluid-work yesterday never showed up in the archive. Did you get it? (It was a suggestion to rethink "Cancel".)
[13:03:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> RayDavis: I didn't. I got one email yesterday (from Eli).
[13:03:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> From what I hear, the lists are fried.
[13:03:47 EDT(-0400)] <RayDavis> Guess so.
[13:03:47 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark sighs.
[13:04:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> RayDavis: Worse yet, our system administrator is out of touch at the moment. We're working on it.
[13:05:23 EDT(-0400)] <RayDavis> I hate the idea of everyone being deprived of my pearls of wisdom!
[13:05:41 EDT(-0400)] <RayDavis> How will you make through the weekend?
[13:06:16 EDT(-0400)] <RayDavis> Well, we must be brave – I'll just wait to resend till after we hear better news.
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[13:17:00 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> RayDavis: lol
[13:17:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Without your pearls, it will be a difficult weekend. (wink)
[13:17:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Perhaps I'll go sailing.
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