fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-06-02

[08:11:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: about to push in the implementation of ur image gallery design. should i use the same jira 4274 or create another one for implementation?
[08:35:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: sorry I didn't see your message.
[08:35:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> feel free to use the same jira.
[08:39:29 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thx, jhung. pushed into colin's branch: https://github.com/colinbdclark/image-gallery
[09:02:24 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: can u add this jira for ui options asynchronous template loading issue, http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4277, into bug parade? thx
[09:05:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: what is the issue here exactly.. it sort of sounds like something heidi and i are looking at right now
[09:06:44 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: when running ui options unit tests, u will get js error "Error during rendering - component with id textSize which has a queued decorator was not found in the output markup"
[09:07:34 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> it doesn't happen in demo tho, at least from my try
[09:23:19 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli. This looks great!
[09:23:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> cool thx, jhung
[09:23:45 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli, do you see the uploader blinking when you change the file types? Can this be avoided?
[09:25:28 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: that's from the destroy and re-instantiation of the uploader. not easy to aviod
[09:26:26 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> hmmm... that's problematic. The queue also resets when you change the file types.
[09:35:26 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: yes, as the previous uploader is destroyed and the old data is lost
[09:37:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli. ok. I'll file a jira for this. I'll be pushing out a change to the Error message display. I may need your help to get the error messages cleared.
[09:37:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure, jhung
[09:42:18 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anyone here want to walk me through my first git push?
[09:44:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: how are you doing?
[09:45:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: not bad. Just don't want to mess things up.
[09:46:19 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> so i have a clone of Colin's branch in my local repo.
[09:46:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> so I would do git add -u, then commit, then push. Correct?
[09:47:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: yes
[09:47:46 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> k thanks. Justin_o. I'll post here if I muck it up.
[09:48:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay good luck
[09:51:52 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: commit messages start with "JIRA-#: message", right?
[09:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: yes.. so FLUID-####: message
[10:30:35 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: are you busy?
[10:31:00 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: what's up?
[10:31:33 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I made a comment on harriswong's pull request assuming that the change to the API was something I had done
[10:31:42 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> michelled: i have replied.
[10:31:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> he pointed me to a commit that is actually from you, so it makes sense to talk to you about it
[10:32:03 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> https://github.com/harriswong/infusion/commit/282ff955ee98a85b63b102852352e3c68d06407b
[10:32:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I'm wondering why you removed the updateModel API from UIEnhancer?
[10:54:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: heidi and I were looking at amalgamating resources and stuff for the templates
[10:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> not sure if that would solve your issues
[10:55:14 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: really, great.any luck?
[10:55:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: i think we have something working.. i guess we could try the unit tests as wel
[10:55:45 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> perfect
[11:01:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: since I don
[11:02:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> 't have write access to colinclark's branch, would I fork his branch, push to my remote repo, then do a pull request?
[11:21:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung_afk: yes.. that sounds correct
[11:21:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> you could also ask colinclark to grant you push access to his repo
[11:21:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but the first method is more traditional i guess
[11:25:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> greggy1: ping
[11:27:27 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> jessm: hey
[11:27:39 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> can we skype quickly greggy1 ?
[11:28:38 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> no
[11:28:45 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> jess. let me restart
[11:28:56 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> ok
[12:26:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: I have pushed changes to the image gallery to my fork. https://github.com/jhung/image-gallery
[12:26:50 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, jhung
[12:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: I find that if errors occur, the message don't disappear. So the page just gets longer and longer.
[12:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli, is there any way to change that so errors automatically disappear when user presses either Browse or Upload buttons?
[12:29:53 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: what about the uploaded images displayed in the image view? should they disappear too?
[12:30:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: no. Just the error messages. We don't want to reset the whole demo.
[12:30:49 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ic. let me find out, jhung
[12:31:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> thanks!
[13:00:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, I hear you're going to be helping me out with more icons for the yellow/black themes
[13:00:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: Yeah.
[13:01:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm just planning out my upcoming days: any eta on that?
[13:01:35 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: done with clearing error div. should i push to colin's branch together with all your changes?
[13:01:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huslage: Here's a link to the Mailman signup page for the fluid-work mailing list...
[13:01:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://fluidproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fluid-work
[13:02:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: Let me check it out first.
[13:06:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: u wanna checkout my changes? the change is at my local, nowhere yet u can check
[13:07:41 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Can you push to my fork cindyli?
[13:08:04 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> can u grant me collaborator of ur github, jhung, for me to push
[13:08:46 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: done.
[13:08:57 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks!
[13:13:59 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: pushed
[13:15:06 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: got it. Looking at it now...
[13:15:11 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thx
[13:17:23 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: looks good. I think I'm going to fix the size of the uploader panel so when it resets it won't be as bad.
[13:17:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> awesome. thanks, jhung
[13:35:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli michelled Justin_o pushed fat panel/tabs to 4267
[13:35:36 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ill update jira.
[13:35:41 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx heidi_
[13:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: do you know if it's possiblie to increase the vertical size of the uploader in its default / empty state?
[13:44:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: off the top of my head, increase the vertical size of the holder DIV of the uploader
[13:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli, I've done that, but the uploader doesn't stretch to fill the space.
[13:46:21 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: i don't think the implementor can control that, but mlam would know better
[13:46:34 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I've looked at the API, and there doesn't seem to be anything related.
[13:46:47 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: yes, mlam, any idea?
[13:47:12 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> jhung: cindyli, no , no options to control that
[13:47:50 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> mlam: ah. Okay. I'll request that feature then. It'd be nice to have the Uploader occupy a fixed space.
[13:51:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: I can't seem to be able to upload images. I keep getting Error 403 messages.
[13:51:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: does it work for you?
[13:52:08 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, jhung. did u check the settings
[13:52:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yes all checked.
[13:53:43 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: u cannot upload the image even with the default settings?
[13:54:13 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: yes. I keep getting 403. I'll restart the server again and reboot my browser...
[13:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[13:56:01 CDT(-0500)] * jhung smacks forehead
[13:56:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: I was working in a different branch that didn't have the temp directory created.
[13:56:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> problem solved.
[13:56:39 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> haha, great
[13:56:42 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> congrats
[14:04:35 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: I just pushed my last change. I think we can merge it / pull request into colinclark's branch.
[14:04:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> cool.
[14:05:56 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> not sure if you have push access to colinclark's branch, let me know if any merge or push u want me to do
[14:06:02 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung~
[14:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli, I do not, so you can push the changes.
[14:07:11 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, jhung
[14:10:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jhung: pushed
[14:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> cindyli: thanks!
[14:13:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: colinclark's image gallery branch (https://github.com/colinbdclark/image-gallery/tree/) has the latest newly implemented ui. hopefully we are settled.
[14:14:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Well, it's not perfect cindyli, but I'll make jiras for those issues.
[14:14:37 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> oh, ya. thanks, jhung
[14:15:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: I was looking at FLUID-962. This makes me think ...
[14:15:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-962
[14:16:07 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> it'd be nice if there was a component that is customizable to handle the truncating, shortening, abbreviating of long strings.
[14:16:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> i.e. put an ellipsis in the middle or at the end after x characters.
[14:16:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> put an ellipsis if the container is too small etc.
[14:17:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> and have the string expand / contract if the container is resized.
[14:19:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> jhung - good idea
[14:19:42 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> bosmon: it smells like something that should already exist, so maybe it does? I don't know.
[14:21:10 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> jhung: I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist, else it would've been used in the uploader to smash that JIRA
[14:21:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> mlam: haha
[14:25:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Where should ideas like this be documented? I suppose maybe the first step to send it to the mailing list for input?
[14:26:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: thanks
[14:26:25 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np
[14:27:55 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: FLUID-4109 resolved, I can't reproduce it after ant built.
[14:28:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: with the urls replaced?
[14:29:23 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: The Url replaced? I tried running the demo under build/ from the master. No error was found, and the source code includes the layoutReorderer.js.
[14:30:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: so you need to do a different one
[14:30:40 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o: sure, which one would you like me to do?
[14:30:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: i'll come over
[14:35:15 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: r u there
[14:38:43 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi there cindy
[14:39:03 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: can you comment on the 4267 JIRA with the branch that you merged in?
[14:39:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> jhung, mlam - this kind of thing might exist as a jQuery UI plugin of some variously shady variety
[14:39:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We should certainly look for one before we think of implementing it
[14:40:30 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: Is there a JIRA for UIO unit tests?
[14:41:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: I think there is, but if there isn't there should be one
[14:41:32 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, I see it. It's all on the roadmap
[14:41:56 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> hi, Bosmon, thanks for pointing out that i tested in the wrong direction. i tried more with rich text inline editor, since the simple one does not accept html markup.
[14:42:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: u said that - ensure that a field with an ORIGINAL rich text value can be edited, and immediately saved without triggering change detection
[14:43:00 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> "can be edited" is confirmed. but regarding "immediately saved", all the save in rich text inline editor is via a "save" button
[14:43:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli - by "immediately" I just mean, without making any edits to the value
[14:44:05 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: I'm not working off a specific branch. I'm working directly off of the UIO branch itself. what do you prefer?
[14:46:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli - we used to have a manual demo which had a rich text inline edit control, with an "undo" widget attached to it... do we still have this? I haven't gone to check
[14:46:34 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: given how many people are working on UIO at the moment I think it's better if we all work in branches and then merge in
[14:47:09 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, sure. I made some small changes...i'll push them in when they're ready and then i'll start working off a branch
[14:49:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: i think that's the current rich text inline demo. it has an "undo" link
[14:49:55 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: i tried with "without making any edits to the value", fine
[14:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli - that's cool then - I should merge your pull
[14:50:45 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Unless there is anything else you think it needs?
[14:51:10 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> adding and removing html markup from rich text editor?
[14:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Actually, I'm wondering why we removed the FCKEditor integration in the first place
[14:51:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Was it doing anyone any harm?
[14:51:26 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good mlam
[14:52:22 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: fck is replaced by CK, maybe? Justin_o, do u know?
[14:54:03 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli just talking to jameswy about the text field slider. it would be nice if you tabbed to the textbox for the slider and could use the up and down arrow keys to increase/decrease the number. i think that happens on the web for such things often enough to be expected. i'll add it to the controls jira?
[14:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ya, Bosmon, just asked Justin_o, CK is the goal
[14:55:18 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure, heidi_
[14:56:34 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: probably create a new jira for that? the jira 4216 for new controls has included many things and been growing big
[14:56:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli yeah, agreed. is there a text field slider jira?
[14:57:02 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> no, heidi_
[14:57:04 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k
[14:57:06 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> as i rmb
[14:59:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4282 Justin_o this could wait for 1.5 ?
[14:59:37 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks, heidi_
[15:01:56 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> mlam: For the uploader, is there a way to restrict the filetypes in the system's browse dialog
[15:02:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> fyi mlam the fat panel (pushed to branch) is using autosave - appears to be working so thanks
[15:02:48 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Yes, there is, however, HTML5 browsers have yet to fully implement this functionality ...when they do, things should work automatically
[15:03:24 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> jhung^^. It should work for IE. It's the fileTypes option in the queueSettings
[15:03:33 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ah.
[15:03:34 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> heidi_: coolio
[15:03:43 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> glad it's working
[15:03:58 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> mlam: I see. No wonder I don't see it working for FF. Thanks.
[15:04:09 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np
[15:12:39 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Thanks for the merge, O KINGGG
[15:14:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: you're welcome.. you saw that fast
[15:15:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sorry.. just noticed your comment about FLUID-962, that would be nice to have
[15:16:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Actually, I'm writing an email about that now justin_o.
[15:16:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> we'll discuss it there I guess.
[15:16:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: cool.. i'll check it out there
[15:17:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: i added FLUID-4277 to bug parade
[15:17:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thx, Justin_o
[15:21:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli is there a jira for adding comic sans to fss-text?
[15:22:30 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: what's that?
[15:22:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'll take that as a no we don't have a classname for comic sans in fss yet
[15:23:02 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> haha, thanks
[15:33:05 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli, heidi_, Bosmon: do you want to talk about UI Options for a bit?
[15:33:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure
[15:33:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> sure
[15:33:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> skype?
[15:33:51 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[15:35:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac fat panel working ok for you?
[15:39:31 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, I'm just trying to get it working in the test page I'd created; just figuring out how to write the demands to override the relative paths to the templates
[15:39:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasia you don't have to, just call fluid.fatPanelUIOptions
[15:40:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I tried that, heidi_, but my file is in a different relative location to the templates, so it obviously didn't find them
[15:40:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm calling fatPanelUIOptions, but I have to set the paths first
[15:42:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac ah gotcha
[15:42:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, why would the fat panel be giving me an error that it's can't find the preview template?
[15:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> why would it be trying to create the preview subcomponent?
[15:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> sorry just in call... one sec
[15:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> it uses livepreview
[15:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> gotta go, sorry - I'll pick this up tomorrow
[16:29:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey Bosmon!
[16:29:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'd like to introduce you to huslage
[16:29:46 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> hey Bosmon
[16:29:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> He's our new system administrator
[16:30:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we've spent the day talking through our current infrastructure
[16:30:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> d
[16:30:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> dreaming about the new infrastructure for the Inclusive Design Institute
[16:30:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and so on
[16:30:28 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> mostly not falling asleep. colin is nice though.
[16:30:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> If you have anything on your mind about servers and infrastructure needs, don't hesitate to let him know
[16:30:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> he hangs out here on a regular basis
[16:42:58 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hail huslage
[16:43:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's great to see you here
[16:43:06 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> How can we pronounce this?
[16:43:08 CDT(-0500)] * huslage bows
[16:43:15 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> huh-sledge
[16:43:17 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> like that
[16:43:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> great
[16:43:24 CDT(-0500)] <huslage>
[16:43:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> There was always a slight chance you were some kind of crazed German
[16:43:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> So you will be working mostly remotely?
[16:43:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I notice you slapped a security notice on our JIRA today
[16:45:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> CONDEMNED.... by order, Huslage
[16:45:22 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i did
[16:45:24 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> sorry to say
[16:45:41 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i'm a crazed american with an alsatian name. it's a problem, but we deal
[16:45:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> eek is all I have to say
[16:46:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, it's about time we had our kitchen inspected
[16:46:11 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> There could be any number of crazed critters running around in there
[16:46:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[16:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> oh there goes one now
[16:48:40 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> http://skype-open-source.blogspot.com/2011/06/skype-protocol-reverse-engineered.html
[16:48:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yay!
[16:48:57 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I wouldn't like to try a patent fight against those 2
[16:49:03 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Given they already got the better of their own VCs
[16:49:10 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> PATENT THROW DOWN 2011!!!!
[16:49:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Typically being a VC counts as the definition of having the better lawyers
[16:49:54 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yes
[16:50:05 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> being a VC counts for way too much I think
[16:50:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> You sound like you have had a run-in with a few
[16:50:35 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And are ready for the "quiet life"
[19:47:54 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i like the quiet life of foundation funding
[20:30:05 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> huslage: i'm still crying