fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-06-24

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[07:43:38 CDT(-0500)] <yura__> Justin_o: hi
[07:52:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura__: hello
[07:52:47 CDT(-0500)] <yura__> Justin_o: hi, sorry I found the answer to what I wanted to ask you (smile)
[07:53:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura__: okay (smile)
[08:25:20 CDT(-0500)] <clown> huslage:  just wanted to touch base, and thank you for you help re:  my sshd problems yesterday
[08:25:46 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> no problem clown you figure out a fix?
[08:27:19 CDT(-0500)] <clown> it seems to have fixed itself. the last thing I did was find a gui app (can't remember the name) that showed which port were open. the "ssh" port was checked but nothing worked until I hit that gui's "apply" button.
[08:28:04 CDT(-0500)] <clown> at the moment, the status of the iptables service is listed as "active (exited)". as far as you know, does that mean the fire wall is up?
[08:28:13 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> funky
[08:28:21 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yes that means it's up
[08:28:25 CDT(-0500)] <clown> cool, thanks.
[08:28:28 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> sure
[08:28:30 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> (smile)
[08:32:18 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: Justin_o, i'm done with extending ui options template loader to include toc component. Holding off the pull request since it needs to work with the new toc component. Anything in particular you want me to work on or help with for the next? Otherwise, i will just go through the bug parade list for ui options.
[08:33:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: could you start with taking a quick look at the bug parade and seeing if there is anything else that is high priority... there maybe something else i'd need you too look at too, but not sure yet
[08:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure, Justin_o
[08:37:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o we should decide about linearizing components soon! i'll have time to work on stuff today too... that could be a lot of work.
[08:43:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes i think we should.. this is actually something that I was thinking cindyli might be able to help look at
[08:43:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o yeah, okay cool i will work on that too... i wonder if we should make a jira for each component that has issues
[08:44:06 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi: let me know how i can help with
[08:44:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> has to be done eventually, might as well be now, and it'll help find any holes in our linear fss styles
[08:44:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli check out that email i sent to the list on wed about linearizing components... maybe pick a component you wnt to look at, make a jira for its issues, and work on that
[08:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi, cindyli: i was actually thinking that cindyli you might be able to experiment with hiding the linearization feature from UIO
[08:45:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> we're thinking that it might be as simple as removing it from the template...
[08:45:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but not sure that is enough
[08:46:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o ah, you want to go that route?
[08:47:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i guess it depends.. if we can get all of the components properly linearized quickly then it should be okay..
[08:47:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but i take it, that is a lot of work..
[08:47:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o define quickly (wink)
[08:47:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> (smile)
[08:48:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I think we could probably double up on getting the consistent styling across components work and the linearization done at the same time.. since i think we really need to design for the linearized appearance of all our components
[08:49:45 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: i also think "it might be as simple as removing it from the template", i can give a quick try. if it works, can help heidi with linearization afterwards if you guys came up with a decision (wink)
[08:49:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: sure.. thanks
[08:50:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np
[08:50:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o that sounds like a 1.5 thing... none of the components are using fss, and we don't have an infusion theme or any mockups
[08:50:30 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> but agreed its tightly linked to this linearization issue
[08:50:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli sounds good
[08:50:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi, cindyli: we should definitely talk about this more though when people start to arrive... and cindyli you can update us on how things are going with that too then
[08:50:54 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> k cool
[08:50:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. 1.5 thing i think
[08:51:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, Justin_o
[08:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm pretty sure jameswy is too swamped at the moment to try to rush through designs (smile)
[08:51:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o did you read the findings of linearizing? some are pretty nasty, but some fine... maybe you can get a sense of the amount of work it could take, but again the fss/theme thing might as well happen at the same time
[08:53:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. i read through that, it was a good list. I guess the hard one will be something like layout reorderer
[08:54:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o i think the setting all divs to 100% is what might be messing up progress.... but again, it's expected that some components will have to over-ride linearizations defaults
[08:54:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yep.. that's true.. forgot about progress
[08:55:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> and uploader is having issues i think cos of the button over-lay
[08:56:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. that seems right.. was it only in IE?
[08:57:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o FF and likely others
[08:57:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: heidi, tried with hiding linearization setting. it IS as simple as removing the markup from the template
[08:58:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> good to know - and that makes sense that users can add/remove controls as they see fit
[09:01:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o any guesses as to why our theme files would have so many empty {} styles ? i'm guessing they're left over placeholders that should be removed
[09:02:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: sounds likely.. we should put a template up on the wiki or something for people to download as a starter, then we can put placeholders and such there
[09:02:17 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o that's a good idea
[09:02:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> i'll make a jira for theme clean up, and another for theme template - 1.4 thing? cleanup i think for sure
[09:03:30 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: sure.. i don't think it will take too long anyways.. the template is maybe a docs thing, so we should check in with anastasiac about that.. maybe it can go in the doc sprint
[09:03:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o k
[09:04:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think anastasiac is off to get coffee or something, so we can check back with her in a bit
[09:04:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o how do i add something to bug parade?
[09:06:09 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi: add a comment "Bug Parade Infusion" onto that jira
[09:06:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: set the fix for version to 1.4 and add the comment cindyli just mentioned
[09:06:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> thanks cindyli
[09:06:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> k thanks guys
[09:10:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac just created a new jira for creating a base theme file in wiki: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4304
[09:10:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> fyi
[09:12:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, thanks - taking a look
[09:29:26 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: I'm going to start taking a look at your pull request for FLUID-4230
[09:29:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung awesome, ty
[09:36:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac jhung just lookin at b/y themes... the button images are strange - looks like it's just a border around the button? buttons-titlebar-cap.png , buttons-med-bg.png etc
[09:36:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> any thoughts on why we need imgs for this?
[09:37:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, they're not around buttons - they're around links, to make them look like buttons
[09:37:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac why imgs instead of just css border, you think?
[09:38:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> do all themes have this? Justin_o any guesses as to why imgs for this
[09:38:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm... that's a jacob question (smile) it's a special "sliding panel" technique for buttons. I think all the themes use it
[09:38:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> sliding panel buttons?
[09:39:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> oh like the size of the img changes based on size of text... but still wondering why we're doing this ha
[09:39:39 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heide, right re: size change
[09:39:46 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I had a link to the article; digging...
[09:41:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> oh good, jacob had the reason written down somewhere?
[09:42:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> no, I just found it
[09:42:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> now I've lost it (smile)
[09:43:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi: http://www.filamentgroup.com/lab/update_styling_the_button_element_with_css_sliding_doors_now_with_image_spr/
[09:45:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac i see. this makes way more sense when you have an img that's ...imagey, and not just a black line that can be done w/ a border
[09:45:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, yes, maybe jhung can revise them to make them look a bit more button-y (smile)
[09:45:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> like the mist theme, or the slate one
[09:45:44 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> they need to be monochrome, but maybe at least rounded...
[09:46:20 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: I can do that. Although rounded corners is as buttony as it's going to get.
[09:47:26 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac, heidi: I'll get to that once I had a chance to review the pull request for FLUID-4230.
[09:48:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: do you know if IoC related options get merged or do they get ignored
[09:49:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> meaning like "gradeNames"
[09:49:25 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> gradeNames as options ?
[09:50:21 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> Justin_o: ^
[09:50:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: yes
[09:51:39 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> unfortunately i dont think you can pass gradenames as options
[09:52:16 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> Justin_o: ^
[09:52:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: don't think so as meaning it's unsafe to, or that it won't do anything?
[09:52:31 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> it won't happen i think
[09:52:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> gradeNames is a special "options" similar to mergePolicy
[09:52:55 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> you cant really pass it
[09:52:59 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> it's only a default
[09:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: okay.. so if i was to pass it in, it would have no effect?
[09:53:26 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> i dont think it will or it will fail
[09:53:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: i was wondering which of those two it would do (smile)
[09:53:50 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> i asked Antranig this question some time ago and he said i m crazy (smile)
[09:53:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> haha
[09:54:57 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> sorry it might have been "lunatic"
[09:55:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o_> yura__1: yes.. i think i've heard that one before too (smile)
[09:55:21 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> (smile)
[09:56:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac the 'draggable widget' in demos/fss/themes/html/themes.html for y/b b/y doesn't seem to be using the draggable icon
[09:56:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, is the html missing the class?
[09:58:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I was having trouble with some of the grippers not showing up - couldn't figure out why. firebug said they were there, but you couldn't see them
[09:58:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac i'm not sure
[09:59:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, I'm on a call right now. I can have a look after I'm off
[10:03:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac ill just make some comments to the pull req
[10:03:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks, heidi
[10:09:00 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: I'm reviewing 3878 finally and I was wondering why flash10SetupDOM changed - it looks like maybe there was a progress bar bug that got addressed in this pull request too?
[10:09:13 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> this line of code was added: progressBar.append(flashContainer);
[10:11:05 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: I'm not sure about that one. I wasn't aware of any progress bar bug
[10:11:24 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> ok, thanks
[10:11:32 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np.
[10:14:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac UIO in manual-tests/html/SomeKindOfNews.html has incorrect styling... has this been fixed elsewhere? manual-tests/html/SomeKindOfNews.html
[10:14:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> (unrelated to 4218, just looking)
[10:14:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, what do you mean by incorrect styling?
[10:15:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac bg and text colour
[10:15:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> making it illegible
[10:15:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, that file uses the default uio styling, it just happens to be used on a page that has a dark background. Should integrators provide custom stylesheets if their background is not white?
[10:16:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac yeah, i think it's a UIO css thing i'll need to fix
[10:19:28 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, I wondered about that
[10:42:03 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: in the ErrorPanel, why do you define functions on that in preInit instead of using invokers?
[10:42:20 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: can i have ur branch link for live preview, the one u mentioned in the dev meeting
[10:42:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Can you send me some lines of code?
[10:42:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Are you asking why I define methods on the errorPanel?
[10:43:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> no, I'm asking why you define them in the preInit function instead of defining them in the invokers block in defaults
[10:43:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> lines 141- 183
[10:44:25 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: I'm trying to figure out the benefits of each strategy
[10:44:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Well, an invoker is a very specific sort of thing
[10:45:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And despite yura__1's love for them, I think they're probably only necessary for specific problems
[10:45:24 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> (smile)
[10:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> For starters, they are IoC resolved every time they are invoked
[10:47:06 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> right, that gives users an opportunity to change the implementation
[10:47:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Yep, that's right
[10:47:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> They're quite cool
[10:48:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but most of the time I think the same job can be accomplished better using more small components
[10:48:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> rather than invokers
[10:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm sure yura__1 has experienced that process...
[10:48:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> where you make an invoker
[10:48:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and it's great
[10:48:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> until your requirements change
[10:48:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and ultimately I find myself ending up creating a new component for it anyway
[10:49:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It seems to me that most of the code in errorPanel.section is destined to be removed once the Renderer is up to the job
[10:49:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The way I see it, that code is just rerendering based on state changes
[10:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I dunno
[10:51:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yura__1, do you have any perspectives on the motivations for invokers vs. methods vs. components in your own designs?
[10:53:29 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> well a clear advantage of using an invoker over a method is when it needs to do something different in different contexts. For example, I have local and production contexts and some methods need to do different things in order for the app to continue running smoothly
[11:39:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, I've pushes some changes to my 4218-yellow/black icons branch in response to your comments. I've fixed the HTML so that the gripper images are supposed to be showing in the grabbable widget headers, but they're still not showing. Firebug claims that the css is there and the image is there, but can't see it. I can't figure out why they're not showing. Could you have a go at it?
[11:40:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac sure i'll take a look
[11:45:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: anyone want to talk about code freeze for end of day today
[11:45:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: the pull request for 4299 - should it be put into the project repo directly or into the 4207 branch?
[11:45:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: tee hee
[11:45:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:45:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: How's freeze looking for you and mlam?
[11:46:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jhung: did you get a chance to look at heidi's pull request for 4230?
[11:46:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> michelled he has and i have some fixes to do
[11:46:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: well.. there's probably some stuff we'd like to fix up like sharing the store, and improving the lag of the panel on load a bit more, but the functionality is all there.. the code however wouldn't pass code review yet and there aren't any tests
[11:46:58 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> heidi: so the pull request is not ready yet?
[11:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: That seals the deal then
[11:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> to go in? no, not yet
[11:47:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I mean, I'm in the same boat
[11:47:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have several outstanding code reviews
[11:47:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and UIO !important is still a twinkle in my eye at this point
[11:47:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[11:47:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: for FLUID-4299 i think the previous changes to the cookieStore are already in master so it could go there too
[11:48:02 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I need to do an inspection of the UIO API changes too
[11:48:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o are we removing linearizing from UIO?
[11:48:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay so lets press on then
[11:48:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: we should confirm that today i guess
[11:48:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: you might be interested in that ^
[11:48:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think we should disable linearization in the Infusion 1.4 release, yes
[11:48:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: tried removing it from the template today and it seemed okay
[11:49:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Where disable is defined as not rendering the control for it
[11:49:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Does that seem reasonable, Justin_o and heidi?
[11:49:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yep.. and cindyli has already experimented with it this morning
[11:49:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> sure yeah
[11:50:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli should send a pull request for that then?
[11:50:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi, cindyli : i suppose we need a jira for that still
[11:50:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o and mlam: I was just chatting with michelled and anastasiac over here on the other side of the room
[11:50:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Wondering about trying to get your branch in early...
[11:50:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: do you know when bosmon will be back.. i chatted with him a bit this morning while he was at the airport..
[11:51:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and filing blocker bugs related to the issues you're aware of in the code
[11:51:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: we could do that i guess
[11:51:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: If he was at the airport, I wouldn't expect to see him before you leave today
[11:51:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> He said he'd be back at DIA by about 4 pm Mountain time
[11:51:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which is, what 6 pm EDT?
[11:51:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And I can imagine he'll be pretty tired
[11:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay.. i think we're still waiting on him for stuff for ToC, maybe yura__1 can take a quick look to see if the prototree looks okay
[11:52:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yura__1: Can you spare the time? ^
[11:52:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: I thought you meant the museum in Detroit for a second and got all confused (smile)
[11:52:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> sorry
[11:52:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think DIA is the Denver airport code
[11:52:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> if I remember correctly
[11:52:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> ah
[11:52:57 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> Justin_o: where can i look and at what (smile) ?
[11:53:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura__1: i'll send you a link to the branch.. 1 second
[11:54:44 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> thanks
[11:55:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: "you guess"
[11:55:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> regarding the question about whether we should try to get your stuff in sooner rather than later
[11:55:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> tell me more about your thoughts on this
[11:55:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm flexible
[11:55:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was just thinking it might get us a little closer to the point of freezing
[11:56:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm assuming that by the time your branch, heidi's branch, and my imaginary !important inject code is in, we're down to tweaks and polish
[11:56:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura__1: could you look at the ToC stuff in this branch https://github.com/harriswong/infusion/tree/FLUID-4209 you can run the demo to see that we are getting a duplicate of at the end of the ToC. I think it's related to the rendering.. there should be tests as well
[11:56:30 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: heidi, colinclark, so i'll create a blocker jira of disabling linearization and work on that, hopefully, send the pull request soon
[11:56:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cindyli: Thanks!
[11:56:46 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np
[11:56:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: that's great, thanks
[11:56:57 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np. (smile)
[11:57:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i see how it would probably be easier to get it in early.. more a question of procedure i guess... do we really want to keep putting in code we don't really want in the project repo
[11:57:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess it's up to you to decide
[11:57:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> How bad is the code? (tongue)
[11:58:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i mean i know we've done it already so maybe it doesn't matter for this release, but i guess we should be careful going forward
[11:58:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: considering what we're doing, it's probably not terrible and we've already done a bunch of refactoring
[11:58:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Why do we need to be careful?
[11:58:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Or maybe, what do we need to be careful of?
[11:59:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey jhung, have you made a pull request for your Uploader changes yet? I'm so forgetful
[11:59:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: I figure the project repo should be a reflection of our more or less finished work.. with other branches being our in progress stuff
[12:00:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[12:00:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll leave it to you to know when it should go in
[12:00:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Colinclark: I have not. I still need to test it on IE. It's close though.
[12:00:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool, thanks jhung
[12:01:11 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: I'll try to get to it this afternoon.
[12:01:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: One of my goals is to reduce the number of concurrent branches we have, and to make sure people can see and use your work easily
[12:01:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I envision, perhaps, a world where it's really easy to register a new build
[12:01:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have sort of been talking with huslage about this idea
[12:01:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> My experience with no.de hosting from Joyent was pretty interesting...
[12:02:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes.. that would be really good
[12:02:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> To deploy your application on your server, you just push your code to a git repository
[12:02:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The server is listening to the repo and will run the install script and restart Node
[12:03:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So hopefully you and huslage can, once our infrastructure is a bit more stable, look at how this might be done
[12:03:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure.. that would be great to have
[12:03:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so that anyone could just say "hey, I want to share my build with the community"
[12:03:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Like, say pulkit or charly, too
[12:03:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It decentralizes our builds in two key ways:
[12:04:10 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yep
[12:04:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 1. Central administration isn't required (i.e. you or huslage won't have to ssh to some box and set up an install script, etc. for each new thing we want to build)
[12:04:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 2. Community contributions are on an equal level with "central code" like the Infusion builds
[12:05:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Given that most of our stuff is actually just static resources, I can imagine it should be relatively straightforward, right huslage?
[12:05:36 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yes
[12:05:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[12:05:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The magic of git (smile)
[12:06:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: What do you think?
[12:06:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure.. so we would just have to manage permissions then
[12:06:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> right...
[12:06:56 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac fl-grabble isn't on the fl-widget div , for hc and hci themes as well
[12:07:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> meaning not anyone in the world could push to the daily build git repo, you mean?
[12:07:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes
[12:08:12 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o, mlam: good news, ur iframe version of fat panel does resolve the issue that "make inputs larger" and "emphasize links" settings were not applied to ui options itself at panel re-open. thanks. heidi, fyi too as u r the original who discovered this bug.
[12:08:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> great
[12:08:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: (smile) yeah
[12:08:57 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> (smile)
[12:10:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli, michelled, colinclark, heidi, jameswy : i'm petitioning mlam to let me remove the live preview code from ui options
[12:10:41 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> :o
[12:10:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think it was only meant for fat panel and it didn't work the way we wanted it to anyways... so i don't think we need it anymore
[12:10:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Why are you making this petition?
[12:10:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and what is mlam saying about it?
[12:10:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "NO!"
[12:11:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "STOP, KING!"
[12:11:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ahh, the old live preview component?
[12:11:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. the old one
[12:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> hahaha, no not "NO" .... more like "let's ask the authors of the function (smile)
[12:11:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> makes sense
[12:11:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Removing stuff that isn't needed sounds like a great idea to me (smile)
[12:11:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "GO, KING!"
[12:11:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The iFrame really changed the whole universe
[12:12:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, I fixed that and pushed the changes already
[12:12:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or rather, reminded us that there are multiple universes
[12:12:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Okay, so can we corral the next steps for this release?
[12:12:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi: you've got the awesome master plan
[12:13:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> From the Uploader perspective, I think michelled just pushed harriswong's, mlam's and my changes for the Error Panel
[12:13:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung will have a pull request this afternoon with styling tweaks
[12:13:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm hoping jameswy will take a last glance at the Uploader before we totally freeze it up for 1.4
[12:13:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I've got a framework fix from Boz to review
[12:14:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Probably everything else is UIO, right?
[12:14:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> i feel like we're almosttttt done: live preview, toc, layout ... all almost done being fixed, right?
[12:14:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o how's this one: When using UIO panel layouts, don't apply the "layout & navigation" changes to UIO itself
[12:14:23 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: browser testing done. Nothing major except issues on IE6 which we knew about.
[12:14:25 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark, jhung: Lemme know when it's pulled in, and I'll take a look! (smile)
[12:14:38 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Or rather, can I take a look before it gets pulled in?
[12:14:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung could you make a jira for IE6 issues w/ screenshot if it isn't too much trouble
[12:14:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: that doesn't work and i don't think we'll get to it actually
[12:14:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: sure
[12:15:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: You can probably pull down jhung's branch any time with your shiny Github for Mac client and have a look (smile)
[12:15:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark, huslage: I'm just catching up - do we have an ETA on when we'll have this ability to push to the daily build? I'd really love to see pulkit's work publicly available
[12:15:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Which doesn't work and you won't get to?
[12:15:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i think that one might have to wait for ants or something
[12:15:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o what about this one http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3742
[12:15:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: having options that don't affect ui options itself
[12:16:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Ah, good question... I won't speak for him, but I think huslage is probably pretty heads-down untangling the spaghetti that is the IDRC's main production server
[12:16:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but it's something I'd love to do sooner rather than later
[12:16:22 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> on the phone
[12:16:22 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> sec
[12:16:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i think that's working with the new ToC, cindyli can you confirm
[12:16:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> no worries
[12:16:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: I'm going to create a generic bug for the UIO IE6 issue and we'll need to break it up into tasks once we do a little examination.
[12:16:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> oh right it says in the jira comments Justin_o
[12:17:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: what's the issue?
[12:17:38 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi: what's the issue? u found the answer from jira comment?
[12:18:35 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: UIO fat panel isn't laid out properly in IE6 and IE7.
[12:19:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: ah okay.. a styling issue?
[12:19:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli yeah it's fine!
[12:19:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> updating UIO roadmap
[12:19:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: also happens in other layouts too. Appears the input selector and right icon on the slider float right.
[12:20:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> oh.. strange
[12:21:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o hows this one: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4209
[12:22:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> and http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4003
[12:22:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli are you working on http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4284
[12:23:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: FLUID-4209 is what we need bosmon to look at for a bug where a skipped levels get inserted with the parent info. yura__1 is looking over it now too
[12:23:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: FLUID-4003 was fixed in the FLUID-4209 branch
[12:24:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: oops sorry wrong one
[12:24:11 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi: oh, ya, was working on 4295 which is the duplication of 4284, and it has been done
[12:25:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: that one we probably won't get to, it's basically the same issue as what we talked about early with things that shouldn't affect uio itself. However I think this won't be an issue if we don't use headers in the uio templates
[12:25:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi: i'm holding on 4295 pull request tho because it's dependent on FLUID-4209. 4209 still needs more work.
[12:25:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey Justin_o, I ran across your pull request for FLUID-4299 out of sheer curiosity...
[12:25:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> shall I just go ahead and review it and push it?
[12:25:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> cindyli okay
[12:25:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> your cookie store parameterization
[12:25:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure, please do... let me know if anything needs updating
[12:26:02 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm not sure about the naming for one thing
[12:27:10 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o colinclark http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/UI+Options+1.4+Roadmap updated
[12:27:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: thanks
[12:28:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool, heidi
[12:28:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> you rock
[12:28:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> 8)
[12:30:53 CDT(-0500)] <clown> for anyone interested in html5's cavas and a11y: Rich Schwerdtfeger is making waves: http://t.co/QV9UHdM
[12:32:16 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled, care: clown's link might be of particular interest to our GSOC projects ^
[12:32:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: michelled, heidi, sent a pull request for 4305, disabling linearization from ui options: https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/85
[12:33:04 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> poor linearization
[12:33:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: thanks... heidi we'll hold a vigil for it later
[12:33:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> (smile)
[12:33:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> :-D
[12:35:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "Starting on SVG now is like having a kid who does not want to finish mowing the lawn because they have something more interesting to work on."
[12:37:23 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac hc/hci pull request doesn't look updated - pushed?
[12:37:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> er, branch i mean
[12:37:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, no not hc/hci yet, only 4218
[12:37:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ah ok
[12:41:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> clown: Is there a proposal anywhere for what is required to support hit testing in Canvas?
[12:42:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I gather there's a slippery slope here that people are freaking out about, worrying that we'll completely change the Canvas model by moving it to retained mode
[12:42:07 CDT(-0500)] <clown> colinclark: dunno. in fact, I don't know enough about canvas to even understand the question. (smile)
[12:42:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah
[12:43:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm pinging Rich, we'll see what he's got
[12:43:21 CDT(-0500)] <clown> i'm guessing that rich wants a way to find the object when there is a mouse event on a point in the canvas.
[12:43:40 CDT(-0500)] <clown> let me know...
[12:43:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, I think that's right
[12:44:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and an immediate mode drawing model doesn't really accommodate that kind of "object state" if that makes any sense
[12:44:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm sort of piecing this together, fuzzily
[12:44:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> in an immediate mode there's just pixels...
[12:44:59 CDT(-0500)] <clown> colinclark: I just went up a level in the list archive to see the thread. oh my... (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2011AprJun/)
[12:45:16 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> sorry 'bout that
[12:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> michelled: what do you mean push to daily build? doesn't it just check out all the stuff and build it?
[12:46:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> huslage: I'm meant for stuff that's not in the main repo like the gsoc projects
[12:48:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> clown: One proposal: "Produce Paths only for drawing objects that are bound to canvas subtree elements that support accessibility. pointer events generate hits in the drawing object and the events are routed by the user agent to the subtree element where keyboard events are processed. Path are retained with a Z index"
[12:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> colinclark: michelled: I've made a pull request for the fat panel work that Justin_o and myself have been working on. https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/86
[12:52:07 CDT(-0500)] <yura__1> so Justin_o i was wondering how well does tree like that work with children in it?, also i noticed you have "items:" in the tree even though you already specify that it's repeating selector in the defaults
[12:52:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> don't you still need to refer to it with the ":"
[12:52:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yura__1: thanks for looking by the way
[12:53:35 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> michelled: i'm not sure what it takes to add something to that. i'm gonna have to look into it
[12:55:29 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> huslage: I'm referring to colinclark's musings at 1:00 today - perhaps I misunderstood
[12:56:15 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> oh that
[12:56:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: i've added a blocker for the unit tests need for fat panel ui options http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4307
[12:56:25 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> colinclark: could you write a spec for what you want?
[12:56:33 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> cool, thanks Justin_o
[13:00:47 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> because irc notes are not good for specs
[13:20:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac the h2's need display:inline, otherwise they will be the width of the titlebar, and go over any bg imgs
[13:20:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah!! heidi, thanks. I probably wouldn't have figured that ou!
[13:20:57 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> np!
[13:51:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: I know you're looking Justin_o and my pull request for UIE and cookie store
[13:51:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: shall I take cindyli and mlam pull requests?
[13:52:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung did you make a jira for ie6 styling
[13:52:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: sure, that'd be great
[13:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi, yes. http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4306
[13:52:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac let me know when you update 4218 and 4287 and i'll take a last look
[13:52:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> will do, heidi
[13:54:48 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: I know you and Justin_o plan to do some clean up of the fat panel work - is that documented somewhere so I know what to ignore in the pull request?
[13:55:19 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> i think we've done a lot of the clean up already
[13:55:26 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> No, it's not documented anywhere
[13:55:39 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> one thing that we did forget to do was to remove the logging
[13:56:13 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, about the h2s needing display:inline ... why is this not required for other themes, like mist and slate?
[13:57:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: what else do you expect to do for fat panel? I think you mentioned tests?
[13:57:18 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: Yes, both unit and integration tests
[13:57:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac good q, looking
[13:58:30 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: I just pushed up the change to remove the logging
[13:59:02 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx mlam
[13:59:15 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np
[13:59:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Do you have time for a quick question about your cookie store changes?
[13:59:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure
[13:59:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So this interests me: https://github.com/jobara/infusion/commit/b0a838b52a2f791a878c64dee4516795b73b9b46#L0R59
[14:00:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You've put the template for the cookie text in the strings bundle
[14:00:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Which isn't necessarily a bad thing
[14:00:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I wonder if the strings bundle has an identity...
[14:00:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> w
[14:00:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "what is it used for?"
[14:01:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: ah okay.. since it's not really a string exactly, not something that will show in the UI
[14:02:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was wondering about that
[14:02:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> not stating it
[14:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I can imagine maybe the strings bundle is for localizable text
[14:03:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Whereas, if you tried to localize this particular string, you'd break everything, I think
[14:03:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes, most likely you would
[14:04:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, I don't know
[14:04:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i wanted it to be in the configuration though so that you could remove portions of it out if you wanted to, but i guess it wouldn't have to be in the strings block for this
[14:04:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> right
[14:04:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it could just float in the options freely
[14:05:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes... as something like cookieTemplate
[14:05:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[14:05:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> inside the cookieOptions
[14:05:40 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: how well did you test 4305 - do I need to retest it?
[14:05:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> one less argument for your save invoker, too
[14:06:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes.. i was actually thinking about putting it there before, but wasn't sure if it would be weird since you pass the options into the fluid.stringTemplate to be used by the template
[14:06:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> although it guess this is safe enough
[14:06:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, I see
[14:06:37 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: i tested all tests and demos in ff on windows. only tested uioptions tests in ie
[14:07:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> the integration demos too?
[14:07:10 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled: yes
[14:07:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think it's probably okay, Justin_o, but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise
[14:07:29 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cool - thx cindyli
[14:07:45 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: I merged your updated branch code for FLUID-3878. I also pulled down the updates to image-gallery. But the uploader inside image gallery doesn't appear to be working. I do not get any errors in Firebug, and my paths seem fine. Does it work for you?
[14:07:46 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> NP
[14:08:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i suppose the only danger would be a naming collision, if someone else wanted to use that name in the template, but i suppose that's highly unlikely and if they did, we couldn't expect it to do anything to useful anyways (smile)
[14:08:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac because these themes set the bg colour of the h2
[14:09:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> not sure if that's necessary
[14:09:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: Yup, it's working
[14:09:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I try not to make pull requests for broken code, as much as I can possibly avoid it (smile)
[14:09:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> though it has been known to happen
[14:09:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled has actually pushed that code into the project repo now, jhung
[14:09:47 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac also noticed this demo files refs ../css/themesDemo.css which doesn't exist
[14:10:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: okay. I'll pull from there.
[14:10:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: What do I need to do to zap the daily build to see those changes in place?
[14:10:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: which changes?
[14:10:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled pushed Uploader changes to the project repo
[14:10:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'd love to try out the image gallery with these changes on the build server
[14:10:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, thanks, I'll have a look
[14:11:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: ah okay.. you could try to just trigger a build for the image gallery
[14:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> assuming it was more than an hour ago, should this one be the real deal? http://build.fluidproject.org/uploader/hourly/image-gallery.php
[14:11:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it's under the nightly build section
[14:11:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: hmm might be
[14:11:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> doesn't seem to
[14:11:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i don't think we'll be freezing today.. so i guess we
[14:11:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> will have to push back doc sprint a bit
[14:12:11 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I figured that, Justin_o
[14:12:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung default style should not underline link tabs - jameswy's mockups have underlining. james change yr mind?
[14:12:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> re: fat panel
[14:12:49 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: I've also pushed the removal of linearizing (cindyli's pull request)
[14:13:01 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks, michelled
[14:13:05 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> np
[14:13:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: thanks
[14:14:02 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: these may still be pointing at your branch.. i'll double check
[14:14:41 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: just to be clear - pushing 3761 will also push Boz's request for 4290, right?
[14:14:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: (sad) the hourly's are all quietly failing
[14:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: yes.. that's correct
[14:15:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o tho we've removed linearizing from UIO, i wonder if we should check out how components do with everything else - text resizing, line spacing, links emphasizing, etc
[14:15:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> similar philosophy
[14:15:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: good idea
[14:15:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> +1 for that!
[14:16:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> k i can work on that monday
[14:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> to test/come up with list/make jiras
[14:17:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> a solid test page will likely happen for that
[14:17:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> a page with UIO and loading in each component
[14:18:20 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: it looks like push 3761 will also push 4207, is that right?
[14:20:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: I'm going to wait on putting 3761 in until 4207 is reviewed and in
[14:20:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[14:24:43 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, I'll hold off on requesting a final looksy on the themes until jhung has the new button outlines ready
[14:26:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> sounds good
[14:38:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung i think most of the things in your pull req style review will be solved once the !importants are back in
[14:39:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: excellent.
[14:39:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung what was the jira # for the IE6 thing
[14:39:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Anastasiac: I don't know if I will get around to those icons today. So if you can go ahead without me...
[14:39:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: 4306 I think.
[14:50:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, ok: other than jhung's revised button out lines, I think those two jiras (4218 and 4287) are ready to go. I've pushed all the changes. Unfortunately, some of the hc/hci fixes are in the y/b black (e.g. changes to the demo file)
[14:51:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> okay i'll take a look
[15:03:59 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung i think we can review this style list once colin's !importants are in - good to have this, but we can pull in what's there i think - you?
[15:04:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> also the browser bits should be sep jiras after this goes in. cool?
[15:04:53 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi: sure. Let's get it into the master.
[15:06:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> jhung awesome. michelled are you free to do that? pulling 4203 into master
[15:06:07 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> er, 4230
[16:19:37 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> heidi: and that pull request also finished up 4229 and 4228 right?
[16:19:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> yep
[16:19:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cool (smile)