fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-01-06

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[11:29:50 EST(-0500)] <laurel> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-3414 - resolved
[11:30:02 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> laurel: thanks
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[12:12:40 EST(-0500)] <jamon> michelled: after restarting, there's a bunch of new builds showing up in the log
[12:12:52 EST(-0500)] <michelled> thanks jamon
[12:13:15 EST(-0500)] <michelled> that's more like it!
[12:45:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks to me like, despite it claiming success, the uPortal nightly failed.
[12:45:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Does anyone know about this?
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[13:02:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Someone just committed as me! (smile)
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[13:30:19 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: any idea why folks get digest emails a day after the message is sent?
[13:30:54 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i routinely forget to send out the Monthly Teleconf. email until the afternoon before it, but people don't get that email in digest until the day of the meeting...
[13:32:01 EST(-0500)] <athena> colinclark: anything in particular we can help w/ with the nightly build?
[13:32:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: I'm pretty sure mailman is configured to send out digests daily unless the traffic is high enough to warrant more frequent mails.
[13:32:57 EST(-0500)] <jessm> but daily in the a.m. or p.m.?
[13:33:07 EST(-0500)] <jessm> i guess i should just get my act together on Mondays
[13:33:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: I dunno. Just noticed it was failing, and was hoping someone here might know why. jamon or michelled, anything related to your recent work on the build server? Or something else?
[13:33:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: Not your fault. I should have sent the reminder as soon as I remembered.
[13:33:45 EST(-0500)] <athena> i'm trying to think if there's anything interesting that's changed recently
[13:34:12 EST(-0500)] <athena> probably a fair amount, and eric cut an RC1 of 3.2, so the pom version numbers are probably all updated
[13:34:21 EST(-0500)] <athena> might try a "mvn install", then run the script again
[13:34:46 EST(-0500)] <athena> i assume the script does a clean?
[13:34:56 EST(-0500)] <jamon> idk how mailman decides to send digests jessm
[13:35:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jessm: I don't see any configuration for when a digest is sent. Just
[13:35:09 EST(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: the changes I've been doing shouldn't effect the uportal build
[13:35:10 EST(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: not that i know of, the continuum restart i just did might help
[13:35:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> "daily"
[13:35:24 EST(-0500)] <jessm> jamon: i just put reminders into my calendar until July – let's see how behaviour change goes
[13:35:37 EST(-0500)] <jamon> haha, that's one way to do it jessm (smile)
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[13:37:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: Here's the script that simonwang wrote awhile back. Looks like he does indeed do a clean: http://source.fluidproject.org/svn/fluid/infrastructure/build-scripts/uportal/uportal_update_to_trunk.sh
[13:37:44 EST(-0500)] <athena> that looks like a good script (smile)
[13:38:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> i do remember that i eventually gave up and amended our unicon nightly build to do
[13:38:06 EST(-0500)] <athena> svn update / mvn install / ant clean initportal
[13:38:28 EST(-0500)] <athena> from what i remember, on certain days the "mvn clean" step seemed to fail if there were new maven dependencies that the server hadn't downloaded yet
[13:38:37 EST(-0500)] <athena> doing mvn install first seemed to get the clean to work
[13:39:01 EST(-0500)] <athena> stupid way of fixing the behavior i saw, but i eventually lost interest and decided i didn't care if it took the script a little longer to run at 3am
[13:39:16 EST(-0500)] <athena> so i don't know if that's related
[13:39:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: Makes sense. I'll try to give it a kick in the pants with mvn install and if it works, update the script.
[13:40:06 EST(-0500)] <athena> sounds good
[13:42:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: Did uPortal switch to Java 1.6 only with 3.2?
[13:42:19 EST(-0500)] <athena> oooh
[13:42:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> yes.
[13:42:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> aha!
[13:42:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[13:42:27 EST(-0500)] <athena> are you guys on 1.5 still?
[13:42:34 EST(-0500)] <athena> good catch, i hadn't even thought of that!
[13:42:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah, we are
[13:42:44 EST(-0500)] <athena> i think that got enforced in the pom as of maybe a month ago?
[13:42:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> should be relatively easy to fix
[13:43:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> hope it won't be too much of a pain for you guys to upgrade
[13:43:00 EST(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[13:43:08 EST(-0500)] <athena> by the way, do you have a sakai build still?
[13:43:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jamon: do you see any reason why we can't upgrade to java 1.6 on the build server
[13:43:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: We don't maintain it anymore, no
[13:43:21 EST(-0500)] <athena> ah ok
[13:43:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It was just too much to deal with
[13:43:27 EST(-0500)] <athena> is that gallery tool project still alive?
[13:43:33 EST(-0500)] <athena> yeah . . . not surprising (smile)
[13:43:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (wink)
[13:43:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We don't maintain the gallery tool either
[13:43:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Though there are bits of legacy stuff floating around for it
[13:44:05 EST(-0500)] <athena> when i looked at it it sort of looked like it was in a state of not-really-done-ness
[13:44:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> There is a "Gallery 2" sketch that we maintain for testing the Uploader
[13:44:20 EST(-0500)] <athena> but that hasn't turned into usable code yet i take it?
[13:44:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena: Yeah, UCB abandoned that project
[13:44:26 EST(-0500)] <athena> ah ok
[13:44:31 EST(-0500)] <athena> so it's a sad little dead project then (smile)
[13:44:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Both versions, in fact. (tongue)
[13:44:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> sad, yes
[13:44:36 EST(-0500)] <athena> lol
[13:44:39 EST(-0500)] <athena> well, that's good to know
[13:44:41 EST(-0500)] <athena> thanks for the info
[13:44:46 EST(-0500)] <athena> i was afraid that might be the case
[13:44:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon even had it at a point where the original code base ran both as a sakai tool and as a 168 portlet
[13:45:01 EST(-0500)] <athena> course, the good thing about open source is that dead project bits can always be canabilized
[13:45:09 EST(-0500)] <athena> awww that's so cool
[13:45:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But that was way back in days of Jasig Denver
[13:45:15 EST(-0500)] * athena <3s portlets
[13:45:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[13:45:38 EST(-0500)] <athena> you should drag him to jasig san diego
[13:45:41 EST(-0500)] <athena> not so far
[13:46:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> travel budget is always tough
[13:46:04 EST(-0500)] <athena> yeah
[13:46:06 EST(-0500)] <athena> understandable
[13:46:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> speaking of travel, are gary or matt going to be in san diego?
[13:46:21 EST(-0500)] <athena> good question
[13:46:38 EST(-0500)] <athena> i assume gary will be - matt has yet to attend a jasig conference, though he's been interested in going
[13:46:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o and I were hoping to recruit one or both of them to do a section on the FSS as part of our Cooking with Infusion session
[13:46:55 EST(-0500)] <athena> i'm not really sure who's scheduled to go this year
[13:46:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll ping Gary about it
[13:47:06 EST(-0500)] <athena> sounds good (smile)
[13:47:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> jamon: Do you see any reason why we shouldn't update our daily build server to use Java 1.6?
[13:50:49 EST(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: ah, yes
[13:51:04 EST(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: the forge.fluidproject.org server is a new continuum, already using java 1.6 (smile)
[13:51:15 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome!
[13:51:36 EST(-0500)] <jamon> that being said, maybe migrating things in 2 steps would be a good idea
[13:51:57 EST(-0500)] <jamon> e.g. upgrade to 1.6 on titan, then gradually move things over to forge once the builds are using ant/mvn instead of bash scripts
[13:51:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> the two steps being: 1 upgrade 1.6 on titan, then 2. consolidate?
[13:52:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[13:52:06 EST(-0500)] <jamon> you got it (wink)
[13:52:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> great minds... (wink)
[13:52:12 EST(-0500)] <jamon> fools seldom..
[13:52:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> doh
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[13:54:39 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Hey Jusin_o
[13:54:58 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> I'd like to offer some help with the Infusion testing
[13:55:28 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Lee_Bee: hello, thanks for the help
[13:55:37 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> If you have some time in the next little while, do you mind helping me get started?
[13:55:53 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Lee_Bee: sure... i can help you with that now
[13:55:54 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> I'm a little lost... (sad)
[13:56:02 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Thank you!
[13:56:16 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> I guess the first step is to go to the task page
[13:56:17 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Release+Testing+Tasks
[13:56:55 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> yes, I'm on that page right now...
[13:57:18 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> I don't see any tasks though
[13:57:31 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> great... okay... so on the left column are the list of availble tasks, which you can move to your task list in the right hand column
[13:57:45 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> hmm... if you don't see any tasks at all... try refreshing the page...
[13:58:00 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Oh frig... I'm not signed in that's why
[13:58:14 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> the tasks list in the wiki are quite buggy and will routinely disappear or show an old state... but a page refresh usually clears this up
[13:58:29 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> (smile) that's the other thing you have to do
[13:58:36 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Ok, i can see them now... (smile)
[13:59:34 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay... so this is the harder/annoying part... the easiest way to get a task from the availble list to your own is to edit the wiki markup...
[13:59:52 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> And to add my name to the right hand column, I'll have to edit my name in, correct?
[14:00:11 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes... there may already be one there for you... but i'm not sure
[14:00:27 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> yes... yes there is
[14:00:32 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> sigh
[14:00:41 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> sorry, just bare with me
[14:01:38 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> np... i'd like to simplify this process some day
[14:02:39 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Can I drag the task over to my name?
[14:03:37 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i don't think so... you used to be able to do that, but since we upgraded the wiki a while back i think that is now broken... but if it works please let me know
[14:04:12 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> lol... I don't think it works.
[14:06:17 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yah it's unfortunate... i used to tell people to do it like that instead... although it was really slow so it didn't work that well anyways
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[14:09:27 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> Ok, I think I'm set to go. Now when I go through the tests on this page: http://forge.fluidproject.org/infusionBuilder/html/InfusionBuilder.html, I should be writing down any problems that occur, correct?
[14:10:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Lee_Bee: yes... that's all correct... i'll send you a link to the jira filter for the builder so you can see what others have already filed
[14:10:30 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> thank you
[14:10:53 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&amp;mode=hide&amp;pid=10001&amp;sorter/order=DESC&amp;sorter/field=priority&amp;resolution=-1&amp;component=10120
[14:16:01 EST(-0500)] <Lee_Bee> ok, I have to do a OS update reboot... i'll be back in a little bit.
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[14:41:59 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> Justin_o: Hey Justin, I have mac v. 10.5.8 but the task I'm supposed to be testing is for mac 10.6. Will this still work?
[14:42:44 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> um... it's probably close but just to be safe you could do the safari 4 for 10.5 one instead if you have safari 4
[14:43:06 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> I'll d/l it. (smile)
[14:44:06 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> thanks... safari 4 is actually a nice improvement over 3 so you might like it
[14:44:42 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> I've heard good things too. (smile) O
[14:45:00 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> I'm a firefox user though so I haven't been up to date with Safari
[14:45:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> it's hard to go wrong with firefox
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[15:04:59 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> Justin_o, when test 5 says "Selected modules & their dependencies should be highlighted" ... does this mean that when I click on a particular component module, other "framework modules" and "Third Party modules" should also highlight as well?
[15:05:24 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> lee_bee: yes... that's right
[15:06:14 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> oh! so when I did test 1 "select Infusion Framework Core" and it selected several other third party frameworks, this was supposed to happen?
[15:07:10 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. that was supposed to happen... most of the items in the first two columns will also cause something else to be selected
[15:08:37 EST(-0500)] <lee_bee> Gotcah
[15:08:44 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> unfortunately we don't have something that we can easily show you what those dependencies are... other than this page (sad)
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