[08:40:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> anastasiac: from the iteration plan, seems the focus of this week is IDI website. I wonder how far you get with the institution page. shall I carry on with it?
[08:40:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, thanks. I think the institution page is pretty much done now (except for the creation of actual content, which is waiting on the partners
[08:41:18 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we have a number of small styling bugs listed on the iteration plan. James has ranked them in order of importance
[08:41:49 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> One of the important ones, cindyli, is testing with screen readers
[08:41:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> do you think you could start on that
[08:41:54 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ?
[08:41:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure, anastasiac
[08:42:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> great, thanks
[08:42:08 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np
[09:05:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: hello.. i see you pushed up some changes.. haven't had a chance to look at them yet though.. but will do that now..
[09:06:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: is that all of your changes or is there more to come?
[09:07:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, cindyli, I make a small update to the dev site over the weekend, so please update from github
[09:07:35 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, anastasiac
[09:08:30 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> ok, thx
[09:10:08 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn1: is today a cspace day for you?
[09:10:38 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jvass: ping
[09:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <alexn1> michelled: This week should be 50/50 cspace with Floe. I can do either of those 2. What do you suggest me to focus on ?
[09:11:41 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> jessm: yes?
[09:12:01 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jvass: how are things going with coordinating the presos for the launch?
[09:14:45 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: I think you should stick to the 50/50
[09:16:01 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> jessm: good, we have a rough animation and are going to fill in all the details this week. I talked to Bert on friday, but he said he doesn't have access to 49 McCaul yet. I'm going to check with him again today.
[09:19:18 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jvass: you've got the IDI-general preso going, but what about the project-specific one? and did you get in touch with jan and greggy1?
[09:22:27 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> jessm: no, I haven't, I'll start gathering all the project material as well today
[09:22:54 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> jvass: great, so two presos
[09:23:44 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> jessm: yes 
[09:23:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> cool
[09:38:28 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, cindyli, alexn: I reorganized the list of tasks on the wiki planning page
[09:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[09:38:49 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> can you edit the page to say what you're working on?
[09:39:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, thanks for organizing that - much easier to process
[09:39:24 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yeah
[09:39:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> after stand up jvass is going to look at all our completed tasks and tell us whether we have actually completed them
[10:36:20 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled, jvass, anastasiac: where are you going to check up on the website?
[10:37:39 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> hey everyone: looks like standup is already over… I'm doing c4a org. today and i'm also touching base with a number of you re: IDI launch needs, etc.
[10:50:21 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: do you have time this aft. to go through some content together?
[11:05:44 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, yes, let's go through content this afternoon - any time after 1pm?
[11:19:15 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'll ping you
[11:19:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> k
[11:22:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled: https://github.com/inclusive-design/idi-theme/pull/26
[12:48:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: should the download link be called "Download" or "Download Link"?
[12:53:19 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Should say: "Download PDF"
[12:54:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. i'll file that one
[13:07:49 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> alexn and cindyli: I just pushed some tweaks from michelled up to the idi-theme development branch; feel free to update
[13:08:06 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[13:10:26 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> ok thx
[13:11:44 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, I'm ready to talk content any time you are
[13:11:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. i've filed 6 liras so far against Decapod
[13:12:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Blockers:
[13:12:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-244
[13:12:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-247
[13:12:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Critical:
[13:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-245
[13:12:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-249
[13:12:24 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Major:
[13:12:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-246
[13:12:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-248
[13:12:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: let me know if you agree on the prioritization of those.. i figure that anything below a blocker will not get done for this release
[13:22:43 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> That looks about right Justin_o
[13:22:56 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Maybe you can tackle DECA-247?
[13:23:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sure.. can do
[13:23:07 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'm working on Deca-244 right now.
[13:23:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: sounds good
[13:24:56 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> for DECA-246, we may be able to fix it by simply giving it an alpha blend. Not sure if it'll look okay since the icon is green, but perhaps it may be enough?
[13:29:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: cool.. i guess we can check that out next.. imagine the the 'browse files/add more' would have the same problem
[13:32:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o yes it would.
[13:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: DECA-247 has been resolved
[13:58:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: another issue http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-251
[13:58:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> that's going to be annoying because debugging doesn't work very well in FF for those unit tests 
[14:00:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: have you noticed that when IoC is used a lot.. unit tests will run super slow with firebug open. I think it's because of all the console logging.
[14:00:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> although those are needed when debugging
[14:00:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - this issue is resolved in the latest "alpha" of Firebug
[14:00:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> See if it goes away when you upgrade
[14:01:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: oh good to know.. is that version available for FF 12 or 13?
[14:01:19 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> Hey Bosmon
[14:01:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hey travis_84!
[14:01:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Why u no accept me on Skype? : P
[14:01:50 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - I think it works in all the recent Firefoxes yes
[14:02:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: thanks.. i'll see if i can pull it down then
[14:02:08 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> "Firefoxen" as the pretentious would have it : P
[14:02:37 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> oh sorry, I haven't opened it lately
[14:02:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: your ":" and "p" are a bit disconnected.. i'm missing my smilie with the tongue out
[14:03:39 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - Yes, I switched to this form, since as I repeatedly argued before, it isn't actually my intention to express a smily with the tongue hanging out
[14:03:46 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> This way, you see exactly what I see : P
[14:04:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: okay so what does : P represent then?
[14:04:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> hahahaha
[14:04:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That might take longer to figure out
[14:04:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Similarly to "....."
[14:04:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> +1 for cross platform consistency though
[14:05:37 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, we should probably make a Fluidic standard for "non-smilies"
[14:06:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i guess they'd have to be configurable
[14:06:49 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> well we are working with a inclusive organization, so Bosmon is doing his job even in chat 
[14:06:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: by the way, you're right the alpha seems to be working fine. Thanks.. it would have been impossible for me to debug this.
[14:07:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's cool, Justin_o
[14:07:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> The situation got so absurd before I asked on the Firebug forum
[14:07:46 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Since it seemed only capable of spewing out about 10 logging messages per second
[14:08:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: that's a bit ridiculous
[14:08:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But as far as I can see, it is back up to full speed again with this alpha
[14:09:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: yes..looks pretty good.. it used to take me about an hour or so to get it all through.. now it's flying along
[14:09:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ouch.....
[14:11:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> How's it going, travis_84?
[14:11:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Need any help/pointers?
[14:11:59 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We should have a call this week with michelled
[14:12:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> In the meantime, here is a picture of a CATT
[14:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/36b709/
[14:13:35 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> Bosmon: is michelleD in this week?
[14:13:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, she is
[14:14:06 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Probably at lunch now
[14:14:26 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> alright, np
[14:14:48 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84_> So about the blog comment...
[14:15:04 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, sure
[14:15:14 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I didn't really mean it to be "normative", just "suggestive" : P
[14:19:03 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: ping
[14:20:18 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> My connection sucks today sorry
[14:20:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: quick question.. if i use a fluid decorator in the renderer.. which creates a fluid component that itself uses the renderer… when the after render from the parent component fires.. will the component created with the decorator be guaranteed to have been created
[14:20:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: not sure that makes sense
[14:20:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o sure, the components are constructed synchronously
[14:20:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jessm: anastasiac is out for coffee at the moment, she should be back shortly though
[14:21:24 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> Justin_o: roger that
[14:21:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: is that still true if the component created by the decorator has a call to fetch resources?
[14:22:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - well, that's your affair : P
[14:22:35 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But in general a component creator with the current framework should not make a call to fetchResources that will be asynchronous
[14:22:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> You should have ensured that the I/O has already been done by the time its creator executes
[14:23:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: i see..so the parent should fetch the resources for all those components anyways
[14:23:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes
[14:23:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I think i've done that in the cases that used component blocks.. just not for the ones created as renderer decorators
[14:24:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I think we had some chats about this before
[14:24:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, you should treat components in renderer decorators just the same as subcomponents
[14:24:17 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> They become subcomponents in any case
[14:24:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: right.. that last statement does sound familiar
[14:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, I'm back now
[14:26:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> travis_84 - you were going to ask about the comment?
[14:35:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> anastasiac, jameswy, jvass: with idi site, i noticed "skip to content" link leads to the full content containing left and right side menus. is that what we expect?
[14:35:44 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: You mean a hidden link?
[14:36:01 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, jameswy, the hidden link at the very top of each page
[14:37:22 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: A skip link to the main content is something we want
[14:38:55 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> certainly, jameswy, but the content it leads to should only contain the main content which is at the centre of the page, or the parts including left side menu + centre content + right side menu?
[14:40:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jameswy: example page - http://dev.inclusivedesign.ca/about/
[14:41:38 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: It should be to the main content, not the side bars.
[14:41:47 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> You're right.
[14:41:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, i see, jameswy
[14:41:52 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks
[14:42:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jvass, jameswy, can you see this page http://172.16.2.80:8888/infrastructure/ and if so, are the column widths and space between the columns ok?
[14:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: skype?
[14:43:13 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, sure
[14:43:17 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> anastasiac: I can't see it
[14:43:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jvass, can you?
[14:43:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> anastasiac: that's ur local URL
[14:43:54 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yes, I know cinsyli, jvass should be able to access it
[14:43:57 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: filed http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-252
[14:47:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks.. i've commented on that
[14:52:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: any idea how to apply focus styling to the uploader button?
[14:52:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: let me take a look
[14:54:31 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: adding focus styles to ds-exporter-uploadBrowse didn't work?
[15:00:57 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> anastasiac: the spacing look right, but i just realized the large heading is a bit too big, I think it should be the same size as the About section heading so that it takes up two lines instead of three
[15:01:49 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> oh also, Facilities doesn't look aligned to Equipment?
[15:02:20 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> just the title
[15:07:44 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> anastasiac: sorry another thing i noticed, the large heading should align with location instead of the location icon
[15:09:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jvass thanks for the feedback, I'll fix it up