fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-09-28

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[08:28:32 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o, laurel: looks like the wiki is getting spammed again (sad)
[08:28:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> we might need to turn on the captcha
[08:28:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11501976
[08:29:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: i was looking at that a bit.... do we usually delete just the page or the user as well
[08:29:45 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think we'd best delete both
[08:29:57 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> not that they won't just sign up again
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[08:30:24 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> are you going to delete it or should I?
[08:30:38 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled... i was just going to ask you that... (smile) up to you
[08:32:02 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> you go ahead then - thanks!
[08:33:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> okay
[08:34:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: all done
[08:35:06 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thx
[08:41:51 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> Justin_o: I'm still able to get at the page but not the user - did you delete the page too?
[08:42:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> hmm... i thought so
[08:42:40 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> can you see this? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=11501976
[08:42:52 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> maybe it was in multiple spots... i just deleted that one
[08:42:59 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> can you see it anymore
[08:43:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> i can still see it (sad)
[08:44:08 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> (sad)
[08:44:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> now I tried to delete it too
[08:44:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> let me check again
[08:44:49 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think because it's 'news' instead of a basic page. I'm not sure how to get rid of it
[08:45:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> i'm not sure why it isn't going away
[08:47:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> michelled: please try again now
[08:47:34 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think it's gone now
[08:47:41 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> how'd you manage it?
[08:47:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> that's good... i removed it from the trash
[08:48:00 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> which is located under "Space Admin"
[08:48:19 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> You can get there under the Browse Space section of the left nav bar
[08:48:30 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Purging+Deleted+Pages
[08:48:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> ok, good to know
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[09:29:18 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> good morning yura
[09:29:29 EDT(-0400)] <yura> hi michelled
[09:29:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> is this the correct url to load the artifact?
[09:29:38 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> artifact?mmi&canada
[09:29:49 EDT(-0400)] <yura> yes
[09:30:03 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> cool - I'm making progress but not quite there yet
[09:30:45 EDT(-0400)] <yura> great, i really want to make mccord data load the same way as mmi's (smile)
[09:31:04 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> that would be great (smile)
[09:37:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yura: any idea how I authenticate myself if I'm trying to replicate the couchdb databases on the server to my couchdb?
[09:37:43 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it doesn't promt me - just gives me an error
[09:37:59 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: ping
[09:38:10 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: hello
[09:38:53 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> hey, i'm wondering if you have notes from Friday listing which bugs we're decommissioning for release so i can send out an update
[09:39:46 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> ah no formal notes but I think I still remember them all... Is that okay... I can write it up here or in an e-mail
[09:40:16 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> either way – if you want to do the next update email and then I"ll take it from there?
[09:40:27 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> sure... i can do that too
[09:41:01 EDT(-0400)] <yura> michelled: hmm, i think the link from build server is to the database on the virtual machine
[09:41:25 EDT(-0400)] <yura> if you go to titan.atrc.utoronto.ca:5984, i think you should be able to do it without any problem ]
[09:41:31 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> thanks
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[09:43:39 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: does that make sense as a way to document it or would you rather write something up and i'l do the update?
[09:44:36 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: it makes sense... i've already started so I should be sending it out shortly
[09:50:29 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: just sent out the update
[09:50:40 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: thanks for getting me back on track!
[09:51:20 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> (smile) np
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[10:48:01 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> anyone working on FLUID-3194 (the DOS line ending issue)?
[11:01:30 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> anastasiac, colinclark, Justin_o, laurel: are we meeting now? dev meeting
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[11:01:42 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> sure...where?
[11:01:53 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> here or breeze?
[11:02:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> what ever people want
[11:02:03 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> hey all
[11:02:08 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> don't forget standup at 11:30
[11:02:11 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yep
[11:02:15 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> (wink)
[11:02:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think the first thing we need to do at the dev meeting is pick a new time jessm
[11:03:04 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> michelled: makes sense
[11:03:11 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> sorry for all the back and forth of meeting times
[11:03:26 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i'm in breeze - justin_o and colinclark chatting...will be free in a mo
[11:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> it's no trouble. I get the feeling that the devs never really got used to this meeting time anyway (wink)
[11:04:25 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> oh good!
[11:07:29 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> yura, want to join us in breeze?
[11:07:55 EDT(-0400)] <yura> yep
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[11:56:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ok, so
[11:56:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel and anastasiac have taken off
[11:56:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> but yura and Justin_o, any updates you want to share with us
[11:56:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> on artifact or browse
[11:56:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> or was standup enough?
[11:57:02 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: it was pretty much what I said in standup
[11:57:12 EDT(-0400)] <yura> yep
[11:57:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> ok
[11:57:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I spent some time this weekend with Kettle
[11:57:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Wrote an app
[11:57:45 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Found it pretty enlightening
[11:57:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> and am starting to peel back some of the issues with how we've structured our code currently
[11:58:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura, I think I have the file mounting issue worked out
[11:58:28 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: that's great news
[11:58:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But I'll need to chat with you sometime today and get you to walk me through some more of your code to be sure i understand it all
[11:58:39 EDT(-0400)] <yura> sure
[11:58:53 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: whatever time works for you
[11:58:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> But I think we may be using fluid.kettle.renderHandler() inappropriately in some cases
[11:59:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Hence the fact that our handlers are outputting nonsensical component trees
[11:59:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:59:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Gimme an hour or so to meet with michelled about build, then we can chat
[11:59:39 EDT(-0400)] <yura> great
[11:59:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll commit my little app to the scratchpad so you can see what I've done
[11:59:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I also filed several Kettle bugs based on the exercise
[12:00:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm now convinced, for example, that the includes support is just plain broken
[12:00:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Lemme dig up those bugs so you can see
[12:00:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This one was interesting: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-101
[12:01:05 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I wonder if you and yura should meet first colinclark. It sounds like what you two decide will change how I need to do the build
[12:01:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> This one is tragic: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-98
[12:01:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[12:01:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (yura, I'm assuming you maybe encountered some of these in the past)
[12:01:37 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> actually, I'd love to listen in
[12:02:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> For some reason, JIRA file this one twice: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-100
[12:02:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sorry, Justin_o
[12:02:14 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I guess it must have resubmitted a POST
[12:02:15 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I think I've seen 101 - this morning in fact
[12:02:28 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: yes, the only way i figured that out was a misspelling in the error message (smile)
[12:02:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[12:02:44 EDT(-0400)] <yura> i was looking for errour (smile)
[12:02:51 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[12:02:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yeah, i saw that one
[12:03:12 EDT(-0400)] <yura> it would've been a pain without it (smile)
[12:03:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Anyway let's maybe hop on breeze again and i can ask you some questions, yura
[12:03:20 EDT(-0400)] <yura> sure
[12:03:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled and Justin_o, you're welcome to listen in
[12:03:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I might even share my screen
[12:06:01 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: I've deleted ENGAGE-99
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[13:19:11 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> jessm: thoughts on bug parade further work for me?
[14:00:37 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: I'm looking at the bug parade list right now
[14:00:41 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok
[14:00:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o is going to take 3149 off the bug parade since it is an umbrella issue.
[14:01:21 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And is going to add 3201, since we do want some error handling there
[14:01:41 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i would like that.
[14:02:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> And then there are several issues in the General section that are looking prime, especially since we haven't yet named a release manager.
[14:02:37 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> colinclark: I'm going to look for the other umbrella issues that are in bug parade and remove those as well
[14:02:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 3192: Licenses & copyright check
[14:03:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 2724: Verify component dependencies for Infusion
[14:03:18 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Small tasks, but totally critical for a successful release
[14:03:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We talked on Friday about the issue of copyrights
[14:03:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I think we've had a couple of cases in the past where we have just copy-pasted copyrights from other files
[14:04:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> In short, a copyright declaration in our files should only contain the institutions who actually contributed code specifically to that file.
[14:04:15 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> yes...i made that mistake originally
[14:04:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So, for example, the Builder should only be Copyright 2009 University of Toronto
[14:04:23 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> since no one else worked on it
[14:04:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So that's one to look out for
[14:04:29 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> yup
[14:05:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> also keep an eye out in Engage for new files that have comments like "this code is derived from [someone else's code]"
[14:05:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> those files should be examined by jessm or me before getting a license and copyright statement
[14:06:14 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> laurel: i know i already asked about this but what about FLUID-3149 – what's happening there?
[14:06:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm: we just talked about that
[14:06:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> see above (wink)
[14:06:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> oh way
[14:06:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> wait
[14:06:34 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> no
[14:06:35 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> oops (sad)
[14:06:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sorry
[14:06:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> my bad
[14:06:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> no wait
[14:06:49 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> i'm really confused
[14:06:52 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> we did just talk about that
[14:06:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jira numbers are all blurring together
[14:07:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[14:07:14 EDT(-0400)] * jessm is shamed – the real King just texted me the changes
[14:07:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> in short, 3149 is an umbrella, and we are in the business of punting umbrellas so that bug parade is easier to read as a "dashboard"
[14:07:38 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> right
[14:07:45 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> and folks are helping with checking copyright?
[14:08:08 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> and laurel is all over that and im' just behind
[14:08:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel's got that one now
[14:08:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> we're just talking about it
[14:08:23 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> doh! sorry
[14:08:32 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> so can you clarify how to check that copyright issue on other items other than the builder
[14:08:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> no worries
[14:08:38 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> colinclark: are you also talking about readme?
[14:08:41 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> i'm pretty clear on how to do it in the builder
[14:08:54 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> or is it too early?
[14:09:01 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: the easiest way, though most time consuming, is to check the svn history
[14:09:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> you should recognize every contributor's name
[14:09:15 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> FLUID-3181 is also a good one for more eyes
[14:09:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> but i think i would only inspect individual files if you're suspicious
[14:09:44 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm: Early README work makes sense now
[14:09:53 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> yeah, drafty
[14:10:22 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> jessm, are you thinking that laurel could help with the README?
[14:10:27 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> yeah
[14:10:32 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: Yes, 3181 would be another good one to look at
[14:10:33 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> as well as FLUID-3181
[14:10:38 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> (tongue)
[14:10:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We'll probably have to make the README task a bit more concrete
[14:11:00 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok...so here is the list I have right now:
[14:11:02 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 3201
[14:11:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 33192
[14:11:10 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 3192
[14:11:15 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 2724
[14:11:19 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 3181
[14:11:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> big list (smile)
[14:11:33 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> (that's four)
[14:11:46 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> it is rather big
[14:11:53 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> but I'll do my best
[14:12:05 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> let's start them in that order.
[14:12:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> so, to summarize:
[14:12:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel, you'll do the following:
[14:12:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 1. FLUID-3201: Builder error handling
[14:12:46 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> and 3194 which I grabbed earlier today (dos line endings)
[14:12:55 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 2. FLUID-3192: Check copyright and licensing
[14:13:13 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let's take 2724 off your list for now, since it's probably best done by each component lead.
[14:13:22 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> ok
[14:13:36 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> 3. FLUID-3194 with Jacob tomorrow
[14:13:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Let's keep your list to three for now
[14:14:27 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> also I'm expecting fixes with the code reviews, so hopefully there will be time for them this week too.
[14:16:33 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: I've added a update the readme file jira to bug parade FLUID-3211
[14:16:46 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: do you have a moment for one more kettle - artifact demo question?
[14:16:51 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> Justin_o: great, thanks
[14:18:44 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> is 3201 in review? and does it live under builder?
[14:18:56 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> laurel: You'll see some code reviews tomorrow for sure.
[14:18:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: yes, for sure
[14:19:37 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> jessm: I don't think 3201 is done yet...
[14:19:47 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> k
[14:19:56 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> 3201 has not been started
[14:20:05 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> but shouldn't take too long to do
[14:21:29 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: you know how we try to separate artifact ui part from database handling part, so all artifact gets from the server is the structure for renderer; in case when i need to pass data down to subcomonents and it differs from depending on the database, where should the handling be: artifact, couch application, somewhere else
[14:22:19 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: for example Description, currently artifact knows that it is in that.model.toRender.Description, but for mccord it would be in that.model.toRender.Descriptions.musem
[14:23:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: just reading
[14:23:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> this is a good question
[14:23:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> and a big one
[14:23:48 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lemme think about it for a sec
[14:23:52 EDT(-0400)] <yura> sure
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[14:24:11 EDT(-0400)] <laurel> colinclark, justin_o: I didn't put the copyrights in the builder js files - assumed that justin worked with antranig, explaining the U Cambridge credit - can you clarify?
[14:26:18 EDT(-0400)] <Justin_o> laurel: I believe that I just talked with antranig about some issues
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[14:28:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We are laughing with anastasiac right now
[14:28:42 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> She's slapping her own wrist
[14:28:51 EDT(-0400)] * anastasiac slaps herself on the back of the hand
[14:33:50 EDT(-0400)] <athena> demo'd the experimental fluid-based iphone theme at the jasig unconference
[14:34:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: Wicked!
[14:34:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> if anyone's interested in discussion that came out of that, there are some notes here: http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JCON/Fall+2009+Day+1+-+Mobile+Technologies
[14:34:08 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah (smile)
[14:34:08 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> woo hoo!
[14:34:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> How did it go?
[14:34:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> people seem interested
[14:34:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> definitely needs some cleanup still
[14:35:11 EDT(-0400)] <athena> the fluid mobile theme snapshot it's based on is a couple months old now probably
[14:36:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> athena: You're probably right. The good news is that the iPhone theme is mostly pretty stable now
[14:36:25 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So it probably hasn't changed a lot
[14:36:55 EDT(-0400)] <athena> is that getting released soon?
[14:37:06 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Code freeze is Friday
[14:37:07 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i need to take a look at the transitions, etc.
[14:37:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> ah, ok, cool (smile)
[14:37:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> wasn't sure if that stuff was part of your in-progress release
[14:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> It'll ship in Infusion 1.1.2. It's not comprehensive yet, but what's there will be ready and stable.
[14:37:27 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yep
[14:37:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> The release formerly known as 1.2
[14:37:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> (smile)
[14:37:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I have actually been meaning to ping you about that.
[14:37:53 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Pager and the new IoC container are gonna need to bake a bit longer.
[14:38:02 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah, i heard that from antranig
[14:38:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Cool
[14:38:10 EDT(-0400)] <athena> although there's a bug right now that's kind of painful
[14:38:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> he confirmed that it really was a bug - i'll make sure there's a jira for it
[14:38:33 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'll see if he has some cycles to fix the short-term pain
[14:38:38 EDT(-0400)] <athena> thanks (smile)
[14:38:41 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> thank you!
[14:38:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> we're not likely to have a release super soon though, so in all honesty, there's no reason to panic
[14:39:08 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> we try not to panic
[14:39:10 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sometimes it's hard (tongue)
[14:39:12 EDT(-0400)] <athena> but some non-uportal projects might run into it
[14:39:12 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> athena: what's your timeline like?
[14:39:23 EDT(-0400)] <athena> andy once told someone "no, it's never time to panic"
[14:39:31 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> lol
[14:39:33 EDT(-0400)] <athena> dunno, not imminent
[14:39:38 EDT(-0400)] <jessm> k
[14:39:56 EDT(-0400)] <athena> i would not be surprised if you released 1.2 first (smile)
[14:40:07 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> We're aiming for November for 1.2
[14:40:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Which, when you think about it, is pretty soon. (smile)
[14:40:21 EDT(-0400)] <athena> yeah (smile)
[14:40:58 EDT(-0400)] <athena> there are still some major components that aren't done, so we'll see
[14:41:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: Haven't forgotten about your question, btw
[14:41:38 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: (smile)
[14:45:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Been doing some interesting things in this regard.
[14:45:18 EDT(-0400)] * colinclark can't type
[14:45:20 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> That is to say...
[14:45:29 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: Justin_o has been doing some interesting this in this regard.
[14:45:50 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He's actually having his server-side generate the options block for subcomponents.
[14:45:57 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> He can probably explain better
[14:46:08 EDT(-0400)] <yura> sure
[14:46:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> I'm having trouble thinking through it clearly, but it seems relatively reasonable
[14:46:40 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> So that, ultimately, the process of switching a tree of components from working on the server to client is just an issue of using a different options block.
[15:05:11 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: You going to hop on this call?
[15:05:34 EDT(-0400)] <yura> is it in skype
[15:05:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> * Dial-in Number: 416-406-5118
[15:05:43 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> * Conference ID: 5220834
[16:03:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: ping
[16:03:39 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark:
[16:04:03 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> Justin_o was thinking he could chat with us on breeze and talk about what he's been doing
[16:04:15 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> in regards to your question earlier in the day
[16:04:38 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> do you have time now?
[16:07:30 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> yura: ^
[16:08:11 EDT(-0400)] <yura> colinclark: sure, i though that wasn't for me (smile)
[16:08:17 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> (smile)
[16:08:19 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> sorry
[16:09:24 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> seems like connect is down
[16:09:35 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> and you don't have skype, right yura?
[16:09:37 EDT(-0400)] <yura> yes, i cant get either
[16:09:58 EDT(-0400)] <yura> well it doesnt work for me, but let me try installing it on computer beside me
[16:10:02 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> should we just walk down there and meet in person?
[16:10:12 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> suddenly it's working
[16:10:16 EDT(-0400)] <yura> oh
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[17:13:59 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled, yura anastasiac: meeting time to talk cspace
[17:14:09 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> tomorrow's clear for me all day
[17:14:26 EDT(-0400)] <anastasiac> I'm booked 9-10am and 12:30-1pm
[17:14:44 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> I'm fine all day
[17:14:47 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> so 2 pm?
[17:14:54 EDT(-0400)] <colinclark> michelled, yura?
[17:15:09 EDT(-0400)] <yura> yes i m in till 3pm
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[17:20:00 EDT(-0400)] <michelled> fine for me
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