fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-09-08

[09:49:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey jameswy
[09:49:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi_ and I were just chatting about the IDI dev site
[09:49:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's shaping up really nicely
[09:50:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like Drupal has an automatic feature where it adds "skip to content" and "skip to navigation" links to the page
[09:50:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Which is really great
[09:50:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But I'm thinking it's the sort of thing that should actually be visible, so that sighted keyboard-only users can take advantage of the feature, too
[09:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Any thoughts for how we could design those features into the page so they're unobtrusive but visible?
[09:50:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi_: Did I describe that right?
[09:51:17 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yep!
[09:51:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> easy to change
[09:51:41 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> just need james's eye on how to put 'em in
[09:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_, colinclark: Normally I would say absolutely, but in the current context for the IDI site right now, I'm not sure how much sense it makes. There's no navigation, and the page starts with content right from the get-go.
[09:54:09 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> It'd almost be adding a skip link that skips to the next line.
[09:54:59 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy: doesn't it depend on the order in which the content appears? Visually it may be first, but tab order or AT processing order may be different.
[09:55:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What about deeper-in pages? Wouldn't they have some navigation, etc?
[09:55:38 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark: right now, there are no deeper-in pages on the IDI site. It's a single page "poster" site.
[09:55:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah true, it's just a one-pager
[09:55:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung: The page order is pretty well analogous to the visual layout
[09:55:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ah, wow
[09:55:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Cool
[09:56:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So there really is no reason for these links at this point
[09:56:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> just good to keep in mind when the page does grow w/ a nav
[09:56:27 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Not right now, but it's excellent to keep it in mind for when the site evolves.
[09:56:31 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Yep.
[09:56:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_>
[09:56:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Cool, thanks
[09:57:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jamon: What happened to our Node.js chat?
[09:57:30 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> colinclark: turned into a drupal chat
[09:57:32 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i'll come over
[09:57:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[10:05:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> colinclark , jamon: what kinda drupal chat
[10:14:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi_: I dunno--he must have been talking to someone else about Drupal
[10:14:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> We were just chatting about the long-term scalability of Node.js
[10:14:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Node.js is the very wicked server-side JavaScript container based on Google's V8 engine
[10:14:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Which we will port our Kettle framework to
[10:14:56 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ah gotcha
[11:39:30 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> heidi_: hello, wondering if you happen to know much about cms made simple
[11:39:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> justin_o ya i really like it
[11:40:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> for its simplicity
[11:40:08 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o>
[11:40:14 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> i'm having a bit of trouble with it actually
[11:40:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and nice community, nice code
[11:40:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> what's up
[11:40:35 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> the news item isn't displaying and i can't remember how to set a redirect
[11:40:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> url?
[11:41:09 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> are those two diff issues, or related?
[11:41:11 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> sending it via IM
[11:41:17 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> um.. two different issues
[11:42:41 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> So i created a new News item... called "FLUID Infusion 1.2.1 and 1.1.3 releases"
[11:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> but it doesn't show up on the actual site
[12:16:29 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> heidi_: thanks for your help, i think it's all working now
[12:16:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool justin
[12:16:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'm still not sure what permission to turn on to allow your user that access (status)
[12:18:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> justin_o : what's the redirect prob?
[12:19:06 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> heidi_: that's okay, i figured it out, now that we have admin access there is another tab that is called option on the page, and that is where the redirect is set
[12:19:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ok cool
[13:16:04 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> greggy , do screen readers still read email addresses as gibberish? is it helpful to do something like general at idrc dot ocad dot ca or "email us" - what do you suggest?
[13:19:08 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> emails read fine with screen readers, but what's more important is hiding them from spam bots
[13:19:36 CDT(-0500)] <greggy> an email us form would work
[14:14:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anyone: is lizna on chat anywhere?
[14:31:21 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jamon: hello, Mike and Golam were trying to sign up to some of our mailing lists and noticed that mailman is down
[14:32:48 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> justin_o: yes i'm looking at that
[14:32:59 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> seems like the power outage/reboot broke it
[14:33:31 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jamon: that's too bad... so i guess all the lists are sending out e-mails then... is that what is wrong with the everyone list too?
[14:33:46 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> not sure justin_o, separate software
[14:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> okay
[14:33:58 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> i'm looking at mailman first justin_o, it's higher priority
[14:34:08 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> thanks... appreciate that...
[14:41:44 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> justin_o: take a look, they should be able to register now
[14:41:49 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> interface is at least back online
[14:47:54 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jamon: thanks... i'll ask them to try again
[15:16:20 CDT(-0500)] <jamon> justin_o: i think golam got registered
[15:16:59 CDT(-0500)] <justin_o> jamon: great, mike's gone home for the day... but if golam's on it should all be fixed... thanks for the help with that