fluid-work IRC Logs-2009-02-12

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[09:44:16 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Could someone pls have a look at my patch for fluid-2024?
[09:44:16 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2024
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[10:15:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Do you want me to take a look at your FLUID-2024 patch?
[10:16:10 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> pls!
[10:16:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Sure, no problem.
[10:19:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: I'm just applying your patch.
[10:19:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> You've checked that all the unit tests are still passing?
[10:20:07 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> yes
[10:26:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: I'm just wondering about these "return false" lines in the undo/redo click handlers.
[10:26:25 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> thats what I was most concerened with too
[10:26:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> You often have to think really carefully through what the consequences of swallowing events will have on users.
[10:26:45 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> it would make sense to have an override
[10:26:52 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> and the default would be return false
[10:27:17 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> but the other solution of "#_bottom" works too, if you want to ditch it
[10:27:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: I'm confused. You've got both #_bottom and the changes to the event handlers in this patch.
[10:28:06 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> yes
[10:28:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But are you saying that it would work with only the #_bottom?
[10:28:34 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> no, im saying both solve this particular problem in 2024
[10:28:40 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> but they do it differently
[10:28:49 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> so you could get rid of one, if you didnt like it
[10:29:03 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> but they both have pro and cons
[10:29:43 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Tell me more.
[10:29:57 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> the problem is in the fragment "#" being nameless
[10:30:12 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> the default behaviour for a page it to try to find that fragment
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[10:30:23 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> starting at the top of the page, hence the jumping issue
[10:30:42 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> to stop that, you could do any of 2 things
[10:31:02 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> stop the default anchor behaviour (which is the return false) or
[10:31:19 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> rewrite the fragment to "#_bottom", which also works
[10:31:40 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> they are mutually exclusive
[10:31:49 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> but
[10:32:09 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> I've noticed in the sample demos the default html is overwritten, so
[10:32:51 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> if you get rid of the return false part, the implementor must be made aware that their code will jump around the page
[10:33:22 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> since "#" was the fragment used in those examples
[10:34:02 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Or...if you keep the return false part, you are going down a path that you were warning about earlier, abotu swallowing events
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[10:50:34 EST(-0500)] <michelled> fj4000: you're going to come to the release process meeting today, right? it's after stand up.
[10:50:47 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> sure
[10:50:59 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> in the same breeze space?
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[11:12:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> so fj4000, i'm completely behind on your code review
[11:12:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but i will get it
[11:13:34 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> (tongue) Im having some bad problems with 2121 anyways, so np
[11:24:13 EST(-0500)] <athena7_> out of curiosity, what's the current release schedule for fluid infusion 0.8 looking like?
[11:24:42 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7_: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+0.8+Release+Status
[11:24:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Code freeze on Tuesday, release on Thursday.
[11:25:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Assuming all goes swimmingly.
[11:25:09 EST(-0500)] <athena7_> oh wow, that's quite soon (smile)
[11:25:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: Yep, we're all squashing bugs like mad at the moment.
[11:25:57 EST(-0500)] <athena7> woooo
[11:25:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And Justin_o is King with his Bug Parade.
[11:26:11 EST(-0500)] * athena7 offers Justin_o a crown
[11:26:49 EST(-0500)] <athena7> sounds like 0.8 should certainly be available for uPortal 3.1rc1
[11:27:09 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i'd like to try and find time to include a little demo or two of other fluid components in the portal
[11:27:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: That'd be really cool.
[11:27:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:28:19 EST(-0500)] <athena7> maybe use the cool little pager widget to present the list of deployers, or something like that
[11:28:32 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: That'd be great.
[11:28:36 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Pager's coming along pretty nicely.
[11:28:42 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah it looks nice (smile)
[11:28:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Though I gather Bosmon has some blockers to fix.
[11:28:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Rumor has it that it is a bit borked today.
[11:28:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[11:29:00 EST(-0500)] <athena7> lol
[11:29:02 EST(-0500)] <athena7> well, that's ok
[11:29:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> but you guys have some neat stuff and it'd be nice to show it off
[11:29:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That'd be really great.
[11:29:28 EST(-0500)] <athena7> cool
[11:29:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Which actually reminds me...
[11:29:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Jess, Bosmon, and I are doing a few presentations at the JASIG conference.
[11:30:01 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh, excellent
[11:30:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Jess is doing one on "What's new with Fluid?" and Bosmon is leading one on programming with Infusion.
[11:30:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking we might do a little Infusion users showcase.
[11:30:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> oh that's awesome
[11:30:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Not sure in which one, but would you be willing to come up and show Infusion in uPortal?
[11:30:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Nico will be there show Sakai 3's use of Infusion.
[11:30:53 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i need to take a look at the conference schedule
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[11:31:20 EST(-0500)] <athena7> make sure it's not one of the 3 slots i'm already presenting in
[11:32:20 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ok, yes, looks like i'm free that slot
[11:32:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: Great, cool.
[11:32:43 EST(-0500)] <athena7> gary and i are presenting on the fluid reorderer work in uportal as well
[11:32:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That's great.
[11:32:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> If there's anything you guys need, lemme know.
[11:33:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm pretty excited about the conference.
[11:33:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Got to figure out what's cool about Dallas. Never been.
[11:33:23 EST(-0500)] <athena7> thanks (smile)
[11:33:38 EST(-0500)] <athena7> yeah i haven't either - or at least not been at an age which i'd remember
[11:34:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[11:35:14 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it'll be nice to see you guys
[11:54:59 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, and maybe athena7: do either of you know if the JASIG sessions will be podcast, or otherwise recorded?
[11:55:27 EST(-0500)] <athena7> i don't know - i don't think that they've done audio recordings in the past
[11:55:44 EST(-0500)] <athena7> generally people post their powerpoints to confluence, but i think that's pretty much the extent of it
[11:55:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Are you interested in any particular sessions?
[11:55:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I could try to record them.
[11:56:01 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> I put a new patch for http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2024, uses only return false, in case anyones interested
[11:56:10 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'd love to see Bosmon's "programming wiht Infusion" talk (smile)
[11:56:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We'll record it.
[11:56:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It will be a co-presentation between me and Bosmon.
[11:56:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I've got several other talks, so he "owns" this one. (tongue)
[11:58:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Can you take a look at fj4000's new patch?
[11:58:28 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi
[11:58:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Can you take a look at fj4000's new patch?
[11:59:37 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Is it on the JIRA?
[11:59:55 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> I find this new patch wholly admirable
[12:00:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[12:01:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: Can you make note of your review on the JIRA?
[12:01:17 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: That's a +1 from both Bosmon and I for FLUD-2024.
[12:01:35 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: thanks
[12:01:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So one thing to mention to everyone here...
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[12:01:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe this is better on the list
[12:02:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> There is a bug with a funny title, FLUID-2165.
[12:02:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's actually a pretty easy one to fix.
[12:02:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's just a matter of switching our ARIA code to use the functions in ui.core.js instead of jARIA.
[12:03:03 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Another thing I noticed
[12:03:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So if you're looking for a relatively easy and entertaining bug to pick up, that'd be a high one on my list.
[12:03:08 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Whilst we are sort of on this topic...
[12:03:19 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> I notice that this new jQuery is starting to have keycode defs
[12:03:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Aha
[12:03:25 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Like the ones we have in keyboard-a11y
[12:03:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Interesting.
[12:03:55 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking we wouldn't move our tabindex and other related keyboard code over to the new stuff in jQuery until 1.0.
[12:04:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But how comprehensive are these key codes?
[12:04:03 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> I don't know
[12:04:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And are they in jQuery or UI?
[12:04:11 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon, colinclark: has anyone committed the patch for 2024
[12:04:23 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000 can have the honour if he wants.
[12:04:39 EST(-0500)] <athena7> it looks like some of FLUID-2165 has already been fixed?
[12:05:05 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Justin_o: so its been reviewed?
[12:05:16 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: reviewed it
[12:05:19 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> great
[12:05:29 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> if it hasnt been already, I will commit it
[12:05:37 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> fj4000: it hasn't yet
[12:05:41 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i don't think
[12:06:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: Most of it has, yep.
[12:06:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> The last occurrence of "jQuery" is in some code in jARIA.
[12:06:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> The :role and :state pseudo selectors.
[12:06:51 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> FLUID-2165... I checked the Uploader code last week for stray jQuery s
[12:07:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Cool. I had combed through all of trunk last week, hoovering up stray jQuery references, too.
[12:07:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: cool,
[12:07:27 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'm a little behind on this thread
[12:07:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> While I don't think we actually use the :role and :state pseudo selectors, I think we should toast that code anywya.
[12:07:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We're actually at a point where the majority of jARIA has been merged into jQuery UI, thanks to michelled.
[12:07:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
[12:08:20 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: "toast" in this context could be clean up or kill
[12:08:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Mmmm, toast.
[12:08:50 EST(-0500)] <athena7> ah ok, thanks colinclark - it seems like things are working tolerably well in uportal now
[12:08:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> athena7: Great news.
[12:09:10 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: when you're free, I'd like to chat about FLUID-2008
[12:12:01 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I've got a question for you on that one too. The bug is about where the focus goes after certain events. I can't decide how configurable that should be... I'm leaning towards pretty configurable but would like your opinion.
[12:14:39 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: hello.. sorry... i may have to step out for a minute soon, but what can I help you with
[12:16:30 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: my question is... did FLUID-2008 ever work the way you expected or is this a new thing?
[12:16:49 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think maybe a while ago
[12:16:53 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I think that it used to work in Uploader 1 but I can't remember
[12:17:05 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> definitely not recently
[12:17:24 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> meaning it wasn't caused by the update to beta 5
[12:18:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: OK, that's enough for me
[12:18:31 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I think it's one of the few things that we missed when we did the Uploader 2 code
[12:18:54 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ah i see... probably.. i can't quite remember now when it stopped working
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[12:21:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thx
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[12:24:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: What kind of configuration are you thinking of?
[12:26:12 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: we already have all the elements in options, but I can add which element should get the focus after which event in options, or I can bake it into the event handler
[12:26:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> did that make sense
[12:26:29 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ?
[12:27:21 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> one sec
[12:28:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Yep, it makes sense. Just thinking about it.
[12:29:59 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> So you're imagining that perhaps someone might extend the UI of Upload a bit, and then want to be able to change which will get focus upon upload start and stop?
[12:30:16 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: exactly
[12:30:40 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> they could always write their own event handlers but then you might have a little battle of focus going on
[12:31:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Yeah, focus battles would suck.
[12:31:57 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> don't actually know that it would happen that way, but it would suck... guess I could test it easily enough
[12:32:06 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> just seems prudent to factor it out
[12:33:08 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I'm going to actually have a use for the onStopUpload event that's in my patch!
[12:33:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome!
[12:33:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll look at your patch, promise
[12:34:27 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I know that you will... I'm not pushing you
[12:34:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Don't feel pushed by you... just by me. (smile)
[12:34:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bug parade is so crazy and fun. IRC, make patches, review patches, over and over again. (smile)
[12:48:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I think if you do make the element to focus configurable, I wouldn't do it by adding new selector names to the selectors: option
[12:48:56 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: nope, wasn't gonna!
[12:48:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but rather to have an option in the main options with the name of the selector to focus
[12:48:58 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> if that makes sense
[12:49:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Cool
[12:49:05 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep
[12:49:49 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> something like focusAfterEventsSelectors: {eventName: selector
[12:49:59 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> sorry, not selector
[12:50:03 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[12:50:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> that would work
[12:50:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> but the selector name from selectors
[12:50:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep i get it
[12:50:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> try it and i'll look at the patch
[12:51:00 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> so we can still use that.locate() and there isn't any real duplication
[12:51:06 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> cool
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[15:11:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark, Justin_o: guys, something I thought of last night but haven't had a chance to bring up is that the Demo and SWF versions of Upload diverge a little with my FLUID-822 patch. The behavior of the Demo is still the old behavior of stopping mid-file-upload
[15:11:27 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I can bring them together but... not sure that we should
[15:11:50 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: colinclark stepped out to get food...
[15:12:18 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think i'd like to have them as similar as possible but you and colinclark probably know better
[15:25:35 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Is this the next gen for the visual jquery docs? http://api.jquery.com/
[15:31:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I have just arrived back from getting lunch...
[15:31:32 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> catching up.
[15:33:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Yep, I think so.
[15:33:09 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> ok
[15:33:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> The older version is different, and got pretty stale.
[15:33:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> This one, I'm not sure how it's built.
[15:33:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe they parse the wiki?
[15:36:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran, Justin_o: As for the demo vs. swf issue.
[15:36:22 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I think for now it's probably something we can live with... that they diverge slightly.
[15:36:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> it is slight
[15:36:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I hear your point, Justin_o, about trying to keep them as similar as possible.
[15:37:19 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I don't think it would be very hard to bring it together
[15:37:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> For 0.8, it's the kind of change that is trivial on the surface, but tough to do in way that is truly modular so we DRY.
[15:37:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> DRY === Don't Repeat Youself
[15:37:45 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Sure, you could, but you'd write the same code twice.
[15:38:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That dependency should be really clear: you only want it in the demo manager if you're using it alongside SWF.
[15:38:43 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: yes
[15:39:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> This late in the game, I don't feel like addressing it for 0.8 if we can avoid it.
[15:39:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Unless the king is adamant
[15:39:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[15:39:30 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> that would be my preference too
[15:40:02 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> we probably have more important things to take care of so I am in agreement with both of you
[15:40:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Thanks, dude.
[15:40:46 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o: thx
[15:41:04 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> Justin_o, colinclark : I'll write up a bug
[15:41:13 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> ecochran: thanks
[15:41:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm on to your patch now.
[15:41:57 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: have you tried deleting files from the file queue with your keyboard
[15:42:04 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> on your macbook
[15:42:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: fairly recently, but not today
[15:42:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> want me to try?
[15:42:41 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> alison tried and it didn't work....
[15:42:46 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> because it's the backspace key
[15:42:50 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i guess
[15:43:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Yeah, MacBook keyboards are funny...
[15:43:15 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> backspace doesn't work, only delete
[15:43:19 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> You need to press fn-delete
[15:43:26 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> thank you... i
[15:43:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> That's "Real Delete"
[15:43:40 EST(-0500)] <Justin_o> i was trying to remember the code.... i tried command delete (sad)
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[15:49:40 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Hey everyone - I'm having a dilemma with fluid-2024 in IE
[15:50:07 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> michelled: specifically, Im hoping maybe you could shed some light on my issue
[15:50:26 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> it has to do with loading UI Options in the sakai demo
[15:51:10 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> is there another reasonable way to load a shared html file into another file?
[15:51:27 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> right now, im using an ajax call to pull it in, but thats choking in IE
[15:51:49 EST(-0500)] <michelled> jacob, is that the correct bug number?
[15:52:15 EST(-0500)] <michelled> what is happening in IE?
[15:52:23 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Yes
[15:52:58 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> in IE, it seems that it is having a hard time loading the remote content into a jquery ui dialog, and instantiating UI Options
[15:53:23 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> it spikes in CPU usage, and locks up
[15:53:27 EST(-0500)] <michelled> is there an inline edit in that example?
[15:53:39 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> no, none that I can see
[15:53:55 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> let me take a look further
[15:53:58 EST(-0500)] <michelled> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2024
[15:54:35 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> ach
[15:54:41 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> my mistake - 2121
[15:54:43 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> (tongue)
[15:55:07 EST(-0500)] <michelled> is the code committed?
[15:55:18 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> for my issue?
[15:56:09 EST(-0500)] <michelled> yes
[15:56:47 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> no, just local stuff...should I put it in a sandbox?
[15:56:58 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> or I could send you a patch?
[15:59:20 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> OK
[15:59:29 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> It may be that fluid.fetchResources does not quite work right in IE....
[15:59:46 EST(-0500)] <michelled> fetchResources isn't being used there
[15:59:49 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ah
[15:59:51 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> perhaps it should be (tongue)
[15:59:58 EST(-0500)] <michelled> ya
[16:00:13 EST(-0500)] <michelled> maybe attach a patch to the bug
[16:00:49 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Bosmon + michelled: are you referring to a different IE issue?
[16:00:54 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> I have no idea
[16:00:58 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> ok
[16:01:04 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Are you actually working on 2024 or 2121? (tongue)
[16:01:08 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I have to get some food, I'll be back in a bit
[16:01:25 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> 2121...the one with UI Options
[16:03:57 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok.... so, let's get this clear... what is the content which you are loading into the ui dialog?
[16:04:25 EST(-0500)] <Bosmon> WHAT DOES IT CONSIST IN!
[16:06:29 EST(-0500)] <michelled> it's the html template UIOptions.html
[16:08:37 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> hmmm
[16:08:47 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> now things are especially weird
[16:09:05 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> it works when there is no other markup in the container page....
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[16:23:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Sounds like you're getting warmer
[16:23:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Anything I can help with?
[16:23:20 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> absolutely
[16:23:32 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> can I send you a patch of what i've got?
[16:28:48 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> fj4000: Yep, go for it
[16:37:50 EST(-0500)] * michelled is glad anastasiac is willing to step through the renderer with her
[16:38:03 EST(-0500)] * anastasiac is glad to help!
[16:38:07 EST(-0500)] * anastasiac learns...
[16:39:25 EST(-0500)] * colinclark loves learning.
[16:40:56 EST(-0500)] <michelled> Bosmon, colinclark: what we just learned was that if we want to reRender a tree with an altered model using data binding we have to use a clone of the original tree - not the tree that was used during a previous rendering.
[16:41:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Weird.
[16:41:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon is at the gym, but I'd be curious to hear his explanation.
[16:42:19 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> all (in particular ecochran): I've created JIRA filters for release-process-specific issues:
[16:42:21 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&amp;requestId=10187
[16:42:34 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://issues.fluidproject.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?mode=hide&amp;requestId=10186
[16:42:54 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> these work off the string "0.8-release-process"
[16:43:09 EST(-0500)] <anastasiac> these should help the release manager(s) manage the process is bit more easily
[17:09:17 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> Anyone care to review my patch for 2084?
[17:09:18 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2084
[17:09:25 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> I just removed 2 lines of css
[17:20:30 EST(-0500)] <michelled> fj4000: I just committed a fix for fluid-1941
[17:20:44 EST(-0500)] <michelled> you will need to update if you are working on the sakai example
[17:21:51 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, I totally suck.
[17:22:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Failing Uploader tests. Sorry, guys.
[17:22:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Fixing them now.
[17:22:26 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Any idea how long they've been failing for?
[17:22:36 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> since we added b5
[17:22:57 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I rolled back to that point yesterday after I built the 822 patch
[17:23:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Aha, yep.
[17:23:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I see it, should be easy to fix.
[17:23:19 EST(-0500)] <fj4000> michelled ok
[17:23:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: We should have ran the when we did the upgrade.
[17:23:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We were just so enthusiastic.
[17:23:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[17:23:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's just SWFUpload insisting on having a placeholder element available to it
[17:24:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: that's why I think it's a fairly simple API change
[17:24:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep
[17:24:38 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: I'm feeling just a sheepish about this as you are (wink)
[17:24:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[17:24:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> we totally suck
[17:24:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[17:25:01 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> damn us for making uploader better
[17:25:15 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: the funny part is that we usually keep each other honest, this time we both suck!
[17:25:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yes
[17:25:33 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: but I linted!
[17:25:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> We're both going to have to dodge the laser eyes.
[17:25:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I think I last linted about the same time I last flossed.
[17:25:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Ok, I'm lying.
[17:26:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I flossed this morning.
[17:26:05 EST(-0500)] <michelled> ha
[17:27:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: we have a couple of single line if statements right now in the Uploader, but Antranig put them in and I'll take Bosmon over a Crockford almost any day
[17:27:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ;P{color}
[17:27:17 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ;p
[17:28:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[17:28:37 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon will always lose a code style war with anyone!
[17:28:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (don't tell him I said that)
[17:29:12 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: There was a JIRA for this, right?
[17:29:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yep... I'll look it up
[17:30:09 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> FLUID-2224
[17:31:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Thanks. It was a two-line fix for DemoUploadManager tests.
[17:31:19 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: sweet
[17:31:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> SWFUploadManager tests mostly required removing tests for "features" we no longer require.
[17:31:35 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Such as the hackery on SWFUpload's callFlash() functoin.
[17:32:47 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> FLUID-822 patch has landed
[17:33:02 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[17:33:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> congrats
[17:33:13 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it's huge to fix a 3-digit JIRA issue
[17:35:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: thanks, it wasn't the fix that we would have wanted but it's still a good one
[17:35:22 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> much cleaner and easier than I expected
[17:35:38 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Yeah, it's way better than pausing and then being completely stuck.
[17:35:44 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> And really straightforward code.
[17:35:51 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> bug fixing the last three days has given me a renewed appreciation for our event system
[17:36:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah, it's pretty hot
[17:36:20 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i should show you this mootools code
[17:36:24 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> they have a very similar event system
[17:36:34 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> next week!
[17:36:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> but it takes a big chunk of code to set up each event
[17:36:46 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> whereas we don't write any code to set up an event
[17:36:51 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> so we do it better!
[17:36:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> just write its name down there at the bottom
[17:36:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep
[17:36:58 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> yeah it's nice
[17:40:05 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I've just committed my fix for FLUID-2224.
[17:40:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Unit tests are pretty much free reign during bug parade, but you should probably eyeball them for a sec just to be sure I'm not confused.
[17:40:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> ecochran: I'll take a quicklook at the change and the test results
[17:41:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> colinclark: thanks
[17:41:07 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)
[17:41:16 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> sorry
[17:41:21 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> my brain
[17:41:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: did you ever see that buffy episode where faith turned into buffy?
[17:41:28 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it's like that
[17:41:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> swfUploadLovesDestroyingInnocentDomElements
[17:41:46 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> (smile)
[17:42:00 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: you bad
[17:42:09 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[17:42:10 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> you caught me
[17:42:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> poor helpless <span>s
[17:42:33 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: and yes, I remember that episode
[17:42:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> poor Xander
[17:42:47 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> oh yes, that's right
[17:42:50 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i forgot about that part
[17:42:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> no wait
[17:43:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> it was reily
[17:43:08 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> however you spell his name
[17:43:14 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> your right
[17:43:16 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> the xander incident was several seasons prior
[17:43:26 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> right
[17:43:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> aren't you glad our geekiness is being logged for the world to see?
[17:43:31 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (wink)
[17:43:32 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'm confusingthem
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[17:43:47 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> still poor Xander no matter what episode
[17:43:54 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Quick, talk about Star Trek.
[17:44:07 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> which one?
[17:44:37 EST(-0500)] <michelled> I don't know what you guys are talking about - I'm lost in the delta quadrant
[17:44:44 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> at Apple we used to ask interviewees which episode of Star Trek was their favorite
[17:44:57 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> the only good answer was TOS or NG?
[17:45:04 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> this was before all the others
[17:45:25 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> although the best answer we ever got was "brain and brain, what is brain?"
[17:50:49 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: tests look good
[17:50:57 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: Great, thanks for looking at them.
[17:51:25 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> we still have that one Google test that fails, but that's probably good that it fails
[17:51:29 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: ^
[17:51:53 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> Google test?
[17:52:02 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> demoManager = fluid.demoUploadManager(fluid.gearsUploadManager(events, {
[17:52:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> simulateDelay: false
[17:52:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> }));
[17:52:14 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> hmm
[17:52:18 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> did i miss one?
[17:52:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> oh, oh
[17:52:27 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yes
[17:52:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i'll take it out
[17:52:33 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> still have to make that change
[17:52:33 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> cool
[18:15:12 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: if you have time, I have uploaded a patch of FLUID-2008. If not, no problem, I'm going to work on something else for a while.
[18:15:24 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'll also send something to Fluid-work
[18:15:29 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[18:15:34 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> i've just about got a patch for FLUD-2219
[18:15:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I was hoping you'd look at it
[18:15:45 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> would you like me to review?
[18:15:52 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> yep, thanks
[18:16:03 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> I'll watch for your message
[18:16:06 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> k
[18:19:49 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2219
[18:19:56 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> It's almost ridiculous as a patch.
[18:20:00 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I remove two files, and tweak that one test.
[18:20:04 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> But take a look just in case I'm insane.
[18:21:04 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> colinclark: on it
[18:21:25 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> ecochran: I'm sorry to say I can't reciprocate with your patch.
[18:21:32 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I've got to get on dinner or I'm doomed. (wink)
[18:21:37 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> np, it'll wait
[18:21:39 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll look at it first thing tomorrow.
[18:21:39 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> go cook
[18:21:46 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> enjoy!
[18:21:50 EST(-0500)] <ecochran> love to Darcie!
[18:22:11 EST(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)
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