fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-02-29

[08:33:20 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: we at it again today? what's the scoop on the ILDH?

[08:35:15 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> definitely at it again. I just got in, so scanning email. I was going to check in with jameswy as well, regarding status of pages, as well as styling, since we have a bit of time. avtar was working last night on the upgrade, which wasn't making nice with UIO at the time I headed out

[08:35:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm: ^

[08:35:39 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> upgrade really helped with image thumbnails

[08:36:01 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i noticed the upgrade also added something to each page

[08:36:07 CST(-0600)] <jessm> the table of contents feature

[08:36:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> what feature is, that, jessm?

[08:37:24 CST(-0600)] <jessm> look here: http://handbook.floeproject.org/index.php/Authoring_of_content

[08:37:28 CST(-0600)] <jessm> at the "on this page"

[08:41:17 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> oh, that was there before, but it doesn't necessarily show up atuomatically

[08:41:23 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> you can remove it by adding _NOTOC_ to the page

[08:41:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> ah, gotcha

[08:41:56 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm still working on the accessibility page

[08:42:05 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and the inclusive learning needs some formatting

[09:02:55 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, I'll have a look at the formatting on inclusive learning and check in with avtar on the status of the upgrade

[09:03:58 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: thanks

[09:04:56 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: i went through the upgraded mediawiki installation but i'm not clear as to why infusion isn't working

[09:05:20 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i see it being included here http://ec2-23-20-112-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php/Introduction

[09:05:28 CST(-0600)] <avtar> <script src="/extensions/infusion/MyInfusion.js?303"></script>

[09:05:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yeah, I saw that

[09:06:05 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> not sure about the ?303, though

[09:06:11 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> do you know what that is, avtar?

[09:07:32 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, the problem might be that the include is occurring after the script at the top. On the current site, it's properly before

[09:07:51 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> so something is different in when those includes get rendered

[09:12:22 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: i don't the number is an issue, mediawiki 1.16 includes javascript files like that as well

[09:12:33 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> k

[09:13:04 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i'll take a look at the order in which the script is being included

[09:13:19 CST(-0600)] <avtar> any idea if infusion has been tested with recent versions of mediawiki?

[09:15:06 CST(-0600)] <jessm> avtar: pretty sure it has not been

[09:15:08 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> michelled, jameswy, jessm: do we want to give some thought to improving the styling of the handbook, now that we've got a little bit more time?

[09:15:43 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i think we're still working on getting basic formatting done, no? if you've found you're finishing that up, then yes, let's do some styling

[09:15:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> but getting things in and working is the top priority

[09:16:21 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> I think a lot of the basic formatting and basic styling are pretty interrelated. But yeah, once we have all the semantics in, let's hit styling up.

[09:16:44 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok. Jessm, did you have any specific changes you wanted to the inclusive learning page, other than styling changes?

[09:17:03 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm desperate for that slideshare image to be the size of the other images

[09:17:16 CST(-0600)] <jessm> desperate sounds pretty dramatic

[09:17:26 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, I can hack it for now.

[09:20:13 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, let me know if the new image is too small

[09:20:31 CST(-0600)] <avtar> jessm: ok

[09:21:01 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac, jessm: I'm confused... why is that slideshare image an image?

[09:21:07 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Why aren't we just embedding it?

[09:23:20 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: we should be embedding it

[09:23:28 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: do you know how to?

[09:23:34 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: by the way, the size is good

[09:24:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, no, I don't. There seem to be extensions that can be used for that. I'll investigate whether or not any of the existing extensions can do it, and if not, talk to avtar about installing one that will

[09:24:56 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: it's clearly the better solution since then folks won't leave the page to see the slides

[09:28:04 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac: Can't we just use the embed code?

[09:28:05 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> <div style="width:425px" id="__ss_11784497"> <strong style="display:block;margin:12px 0 4px"><a href="http://www.slideshare.net/jesshmitchell/floe-project" title="Floe Project" target="_blank">Floe Project</a></strong> <iframe src="http://www.slideshare.net/slideshow/embed_code/11784497" width="425" height="355" frameborder="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0" scrolling="no"></iframe> <div style="padding:5px 0 12px"> View more <a

[09:28:05 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> href="http://www.slideshare.net/" target="_blank">presentations</a> from <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/jesshmitchell" target="_blank">Jess Mitchell</a> </div> </div>

[09:28:36 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, I'll give it a try

[09:28:46 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Great,

[09:33:51 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, you can't just embed random HTML into a mediawiki page (for security reasons), so this embed code won't work

[09:34:03 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Dang.

[09:34:16 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> not to worry, there are extensions for slideshare

[09:35:18 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: do you know if it is valid for a listener to be defined like this

[09:35:19 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> listeners: {

[09:35:19 CST(-0600)]

[09:35:19 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> },

[09:35:49 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> basically the parent component is using the function of one of it's sub components

[09:36:04 CST(-0600)] <yura> oh controls is a subcomponent?

[09:36:31 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: yes.. and the listener is defined in the parent components defaults

[09:38:41 CST(-0600)] <yura> Justin_o: i m afraid not, since listeners are registered before subcomponents are initialzied

[09:38:58 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: hmm.. so maybe that's the problem.. okay.. thanks.. what's the best way around this..

[09:40:14 CST(-0600)] <yura> well if your listener is handled by subcomponents method i think you should propagate the event, maybe ? and have that listener defined in the subcomponent ?

[09:40:47 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: okay.. so use event injection? is there a way to get it to just listen to the parent's event without having to inject it?

[09:43:02 CST(-0600)] <yura> Justin_o: i think this is what you need: https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/blob/master/src/webapp/tests/framework-tests/core/js/FluidIoCTests.js#L466-468

[09:43:20 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: it works by manually inserting MyInfusion.js as the first script element, instead of letting the initPage method do it

[09:43:23 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura: thanks.. i'll check that out

[09:44:22 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, sorry, I'm not clear: Are you saying that if you change mediaWiki to manually insert Infusion, then it will work?

[09:45:06 CST(-0600)] <avtar> yes, it should work for the purpose of this demo but perhaps we should look into a permanent fix for infusion/mediawiki 1.18.1

[09:45:28 CST(-0600)] <avtar> http://ec2-23-20-112-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php/Introduction

[09:45:48 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yes, there's probably a better way, but at least we have a way of making it work

[09:45:52 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> looks good!

[09:46:38 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, avtar, I'll continue to hack a bit on your test site, to see if I can find anything else not working

[09:46:55 CST(-0600)] <avtar> let me know if you need ssh access at any point

[09:46:59 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> In the meantime, do you have a minute to investigate an extension for embedding SlideShare presentations?

[09:47:29 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> There seem to be a couple, at least, one of which claims to work in 1.18+ (but is very new), avtar

[09:47:43 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I was going to test it in my local instance

[09:48:36 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i have to head to drop by the ocad purchasing agent's office and then the data centre, but i can take a look at that when i get to the office

[09:49:26 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm having trouble with something stupid

[09:49:29 CST(-0600)] <jessm> an internal link

[09:49:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> on the accessibility page to the authoring page

[09:49:47 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> thanks, avtar

[09:49:52 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, I'll have a look

[09:53:49 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, fixed. two problems: a) you were missing one of the opening [, and 2) the "page name" should be exactly as it is, no underscores, correct capitalization

[09:54:02 CST(-0600)] <jessm> bah, i had it that way at first

[09:54:05 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: thanks1

[09:54:06 CST(-0600)] <jessm> !

[10:08:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, how did you get that embed code for the slideshow?

[10:09:00 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac: I clicked on "Embed" on the Slideshare.

[10:09:11 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> (top bar somewhere)

[10:09:38 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ah, ok, got it. I was looking at Jess's page, and the embed link wasn't there

[11:17:12 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: is this what you were referring to? http://www.mediawikiwidgets.org/SlideShare

[11:18:02 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, actually, I tried a couple of slideshare extensions (neither of which worked properly). I was going to try the widget next (but I have to find the admin password for my local instance)

[11:18:37 CST(-0600)] <avtar> this might work as well http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddHTML

[11:19:04 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> does it look secure enough?

[11:19:55 CST(-0600)] <michelled> jessm: in case you're curious we've updated the video player demo plan:

[11:19:56 CST(-0600)] <michelled> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Floe+Demo+Plan

[11:20:06 CST(-0600)] <michelled> things in red we are going to finish prior to the demo

[11:20:14 CST(-0600)] <michelled> the rest will get done if we have time

[11:20:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm> michelled: cool – did i also hear that Tues is our new day?

[11:20:34 CST(-0600)] <michelled> yep, Tuesday 5:00 Eastern

[11:20:44 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: i think we should be ok as long as we limit the number of pages where this extension can be used

[11:20:56 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, can you do that?

[11:20:59 CST(-0600)] <jessm> michelled: cool

[11:21:23 CST(-0600)] <avtar> yes

[11:21:25 CST(-0600)] <michelled> we are going to freeze the demo video player branch late Monday or early Tuesday

[11:21:31 CST(-0600)] <avtar> but let's test it out first

[11:23:41 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: you should hang out in fluid-tech I miss you there

[11:23:56 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sure, michelled

[11:24:39 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: which page(s) are going to utilize this?

[11:25:56 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> right now, only the "Inclusive learning" page has a slideshow, but jessm might have more plans. It would be good if it's not too hard to modify the page list at a later time

[12:07:35 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, jessm: What can I do to help out with the handbook now?

[12:08:46 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: what's the scoop on the slideshare?

[12:08:57 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm almost finished with accessibility – it could use some formatting love

[12:09:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> also, anastasiac i'm wondering if you can do some rich links to ADOD on the authoring page – jameswy what do you think?

[12:09:44 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar and I are investigating a widget for slideshare. I'm having trouble getting it set up on my local machine

[12:09:59 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> but only because I don't seem to have my perms set up right

[12:10:25 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: what kind of rich links are you thinking of?

[12:10:30 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, I can look at the formatting of the accessibility content

[12:10:39 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm still editing a11y

[12:10:42 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: links

[12:10:48 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> k

[12:11:16 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm, anastasiac: sounds good--+1 for adod links

[12:11:37 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> will do. jessm, let me know when you want me to work on the a11y page

[12:12:09 CST(-0600)] <jessm> roger taht

[12:14:33 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, do you have images you'd like added to the Authoring page?

[12:15:03 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac: yes--i've uploaded them, but have not linked yet

[12:15:21 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I could do that, if that would help. Are you finished with the raw content?

[12:15:30 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac: Yup

[12:15:45 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, I'm on it

[12:15:57 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> thanks!

[12:27:43 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: i ended up using the slideshare widget

[12:27:54 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, does it work ok?

[12:28:03 CST(-0600)] <avtar> this is what i added:

[12:28:04 CST(-0600)] <avtar> {{#widget:SlideShare

[12:28:05 CST(-0600)] <avtar> |doc=idi-120228094608-phpapp01

[12:28:05 CST(-0600)] <avtar> |width=425

[12:28:05 CST(-0600)] <avtar> |height=355

[12:28:05 CST(-0600)] <avtar> }}

[12:28:09 CST(-0600)] <avtar> http://ec2-23-20-112-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com/index.php/Inclusive_learning

[12:28:32 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> beauty! excellent, avtar, thanks!

[12:30:02 CST(-0600)] <avtar> np

[12:31:04 CST(-0600)] <avtar> if you're ok with using 1.18.1 i'll have to make these changes on the actual handbook.floeproject.org server and push some stuff to the ops repo for this site

[12:35:47 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I think we should probably upgrade, avtar. Give me a couple of minutes to just run through things a bit, now that the widget extension is installed.

[12:36:01 CST(-0600)] <avtar> ok

[12:42:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, it's looking good to me

[12:55:27 CST(-0600)] <jessm> did everyone see me claim the wiki had crashed and then disappear entirely only to re-appear from a Starbucks?

[12:55:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> avtar: word – yer systems r up

[13:01:41 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i think i'm ready for you to have a go with the a11y page

[13:01:53 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> will, do, jessm

[13:01:57 CST(-0600)] <jessm> there's reference to ADOD there that is obviously dependent on your putting it in

[13:02:01 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: thanks muchly

[13:02:08 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: where do things stand?

[13:03:11 CST(-0600)] <jessm> actually, anastasiac can you move the understanding a11y and usability from the bottom and make it the top item?

[13:03:27 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, sure

[13:03:45 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> btw, jessm, jameswy is deep in conversation with jvass at the moment

[13:03:58 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm and jameswy: avtar and I have tested his mediawiki upgrade, and we believe it should go in. It fixes the problem with thumbnails, which will allow us much easier control over the size of images on the pages, while still providing access to larger versions of the images (e.g. the mind-map).

[13:04:06 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I'd like to do the upgrade a bit later this afternoon

[13:04:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> It will require stopping work for a very short while, and then it would be good if all of us take a few minutes to stress-test the upgraded version.

[13:05:10 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I don't expect problems, but it does involve an upgrade to the database, so if we find any problems later and have to revert, we'll lose any changes made after the upgrade

[13:05:21 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, jameswy, does this sound reasonable?

[13:05:43 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: reasonable sure – let's make sure (as I'm sure avtar is already) we have a back out plan if we need it

[13:06:04 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yep - I've gone over the back-out plan with avtar

[13:06:17 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> the site is in github, so we can always revert

[13:06:27 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> the only issue, as I said, is changes to the database

[13:06:36 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> he'll back it up before upgrading

[13:06:50 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> but if we have to revert to that backup, we'll lose changes made thereafter

[13:07:01 CST(-0600)] <jessm> we won't make changes while the upgrade is happening

[13:07:05 CST(-0600)] <jessm> we can coordinate that easily enough

[13:07:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yes, we'll give everyone notice

[13:07:26 CST(-0600)] <jessm> roger Roger

[13:07:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I still want to double-check a couple of things with cindyli and avtar, so maybe in roughly an hour

[13:15:16 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: for what it's worth, i'm editing previous pages – why is this important, what is the approach

[13:15:21 CST(-0600)] <jessm> adding links and cleaning up the text

[13:15:46 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> thanks, jessm

[13:29:58 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: it seems like we don't have a scheduled community meeting for this week.. any topics that anyone would like to cover?

[13:33:29 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm, anastasiac: Sounds good.

[13:33:53 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: I'm still reading through Clayton's content, and trying to wrap my head around collapsing it into the article.

[13:34:06 CST(-0600)] <jessm> yeah, i worried about that

[13:34:10 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anything i can do to help?

[13:34:21 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> A lot of it isn't directly about content simplification. I feel like we should just have a separate article on cognitive something or other.

[13:34:33 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Or maybe nix content simplification.

[13:34:35 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> I'm not sure.

[13:37:07 CST(-0600)] <jessm> hrm

[13:37:20 CST(-0600)] <jessm> i have the other material – from the notes he took – we talked about that

[13:37:23 CST(-0600)] <jessm> this is different material

[13:37:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> still raises the question of cognitive and text simplification

[13:39:45 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Sort of, not always directly though.

[13:40:21 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Like, multiple modalities--good for cognitive access (one mode may be more effective than another), but isn't really "simplification".

[13:40:22 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: there seems a natural break point

[13:40:35 CST(-0600)] <jessm> 'tis

[13:40:43 CST(-0600)] <jessm> consumption simplification

[13:41:39 CST(-0600)] <jessm> through 2.5 seems bullet-able

[13:41:45 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Justin_o: I'm heads down with this demo - I'd rather we skip today

[13:41:46 CST(-0600)] <jessm> perhaps that's because you've tweaked it?

[13:42:02 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: cut the rest and have some bullets for simplification?

[13:42:10 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Hm... maybe, but it's a stretch. When one says "simplification", one thinks more along the lines of "reduction of excess", and not "more cognitively compatible".

[13:42:27 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> michelled: okay.. doesn't seem like there are many takers today

[13:43:00 CST(-0600)] <jessm> jameswy: so i think that text simplification is a sub-heading under a cognitive simplification page

[13:43:10 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Yeah, that makes sense.

[13:43:18 CST(-0600)] <jessm> where cognitive is just like the rest of what we're talking about – user states and context dependent

[13:43:27 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: Heading for UI simplification, and text and/or content simplification.

[13:43:37 CST(-0600)] <jessm> yes!

[13:43:49 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and we can snitch some choice pieces from Hajer's work, no?

[13:43:56 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Although, I'm still not comfortable with the word "simplification".

[13:43:58 CST(-0600)] <jessm> there's some material there that is good

[13:44:14 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> simplified != easier, and what this is really about is "easier".

[13:44:27 CST(-0600)] <jessm> yes

[13:44:31 CST(-0600)] <jessm> cognitive considerations

[13:44:36 CST(-0600)] <jessm> that gets at it being the Web

[13:44:37 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> Done,

[13:44:41 CST(-0600)] <jessm> roger Roger

[13:44:57 CST(-0600)] <jessm> how do you want to split this up?

[13:45:01 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: I have to run off to class soon--I'll likely get the bulk of this done tomorrow morning.

[13:45:20 CST(-0600)] <jessm> k, i'll pick through clayton's stuff and then try to get pieces of Hajer in there

[13:45:23 CST(-0600)] <jessm> sounds like a monster

[13:46:31 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm switching to cognitive considerations – new name – is that going to cause issues with links and/or navigation if we change it?

[13:50:20 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, you're going to rename the page?

[13:50:33 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm too nervous to

[13:50:38 CST(-0600)] <jessm> will it break links?

[13:50:53 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I don't think it will break links, but I'm not sure you have permissions to do it!

[13:50:55 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm, anastasiac: It won't break links if you use "move".

[13:51:06 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jameswy, have you moved any pages yet?

[13:51:11 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> do you have permission to?

[13:51:25 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: remember, we're all bureaucrats?

[13:51:27 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> anastasiac: I haven't, but Colin and I looked through the mediawiki documentation about it.

[13:51:33 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> michelled: do you know if now is a safe time to update my copy of infusion in decapod?

[13:51:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> I think so Justin_o

[13:51:58 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> michelled: thanks

[13:51:59 CST(-0600)] <michelled> the experimental stuff is in a branch

[13:51:59 CST(-0600)] <jameswy> jessm: I don't think we can move move even as bureaucrats.

[13:52:45 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: we two can figure it out, no?

[13:52:58 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> hopefully, jessm

[13:53:11 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm only accepting 'yes'

[13:53:14 CST(-0600)] <jessm>

[13:53:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, jessm, I'll look into it

[13:53:45 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: can you read up on it while i make edits to the page?

[13:53:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> roger that

[13:56:22 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, you should be good to go. There's no button on screen to allow you to move the page, but you should be able to just enter the appropriate URL

[13:56:50 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> which would be http://handbook.floeproject.org/index.php/Special:MovePage/Content_simplification

[13:57:22 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: so, how do i do that?

[13:57:36 CST(-0600)] <jessm> and maintain any links?

[13:58:11 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, the process allows you to update redirects that point to the original title automatically

[13:58:17 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> oh, wait

[13:58:18 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> hang on

[13:58:51 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm: "Because the move operation leaves behind a redirect (see Help:Redirects), it should not result in any broken links, however you might want to hunt down pages or other redirects which link in to the redirect, and change their text to link directly to the new title"

[14:00:05 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm going to keep editing until you tell me to stop and that we'll move this page or rename it or redirect it – whatever i'm supposed to do

[14:00:16 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok

[14:02:38 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: i've merged the pull request into both "development" and "master" branches

[14:03:05 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli, excellent! thanks

[14:03:55 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> I am having some permission errors at fetching the latest git at production though. I will find avtar's help for that. So, for now, the production is not in sync with the git yet, anastasiac

[14:04:20 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ok, good to know. avtar is out at the moment, we'll catch him when he's back

[14:06:03 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jess, we're good to go: Any time you want to rename the page, go ahead. There are only a couple of links to it, and I know how to find them. They'll redirect automatically, but I'll clean them up anyway.

[14:06:35 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, the only thing that will have to wait is the navigation

[14:06:37 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> that won't update

[14:06:47 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: except i don't know how to rename it

[14:07:02 CST(-0600)] * jessm saves changes

[14:07:24 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, if you're ok with the navigation not updating until later this afternoon, you can simply click on the link I pasted in here at "7:56p"

[14:07:47 CST(-0600)] <jessm> ahhhh

[14:08:04 CST(-0600)] <jessm> by the way, i hate that we're using zulu or whatever for timestamps here. it's like metric – i can't do both!

[14:08:58 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yeah, not sure why it's like that. blech

[14:09:17 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: http://handbook.floeproject.org/index.php/Cognitive_considerations

[14:09:18 CST(-0600)] <jessm> done

[14:09:29 CST(-0600)] <jessm> updating of nav later this aft. is fine fine fine

[14:09:48 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm: yay! looks good. I'll clean up the few links

[14:10:09 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i'm going to dive in and keep editing it

[14:10:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> np

[14:17:29 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli, if you have a very quick second, I've just issued a pull request for the handbook - I don't have permission to merge. It's just a renaming of one of the links in the nav menu, since jess renamed the page. Could you have a look and merge it in?

[14:17:50 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> certainly, anastasiac

[14:17:53 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> thanks

[14:17:56 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np

[14:27:21 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> Done, anastasiac, your pull request has been merged into "development" and "master"

[14:27:33 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> thanks, cindyli

[14:27:39 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np, anastasiac

[14:33:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i've done some chopping on the cognitive page

[14:33:59 CST(-0600)] <jessm> i'm going to let jamesy do some magic with it next

[14:34:07 CST(-0600)] <jessm> after nav y'all are doing upgrade?

[14:34:12 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> sounds good

[14:34:21 CST(-0600)] <jessm> I'm going to stop editing for the day in a few minutes then

[14:34:29 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yes, avtar is off swapping disks, but when he's back, we'll do the upgrade

[14:34:42 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> is there anything else I can help with, while waiting?

[14:39:45 CST(-0600)] * avtar is back

[14:40:50 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: you already tackled accessibility?

[14:41:04 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: i've let go of cognitive for the time

[14:41:16 CST(-0600)] <jessm> i've got to head out – i'll check back in later tonight

[14:41:25 CST(-0600)] <jessm> will y'all email me if there's anything i need to look into?

[14:41:54 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> jessm, will do

[14:42:04 CST(-0600)] <jessm> anastasiac: thnks for all the help

[14:42:05 CST(-0600)] <jessm> laterz

[14:43:27 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> fluid-everyone: For anyone working on the ILDH: avtar is about to upgrade our mediawiki instance, so please suspend any editing activities on the handbook. I'll let you know when it's safe to start up again (roughly 15-30 min)

[15:01:56 CST(-0600)] <avtar> anastasiac: i'm seeing a lot of png files in the images directory on the server that aren't in the repo

[15:02:02 CST(-0600)] <avtar> is this intentional?

[15:02:24 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> avtar, I have no idea. coming over...

[15:43:15 CST(-0600)] <michelled> alexn, cindyli, Bosmon: I just pushed the 4619 branch that alex and cindy were working on - it is so much better now

[15:50:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Ok, let me merge up again

[15:55:10 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Bosmon: I have a branch that I think should go in now - can you take a look at it? https://github.com/michelled/videoPlayer/compare/demo...FLUID-4596

[15:55:20 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it has improvements to the high contrast themes

[15:55:34 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it's not awesome - there are many minor styling bugs

[15:55:44 CST(-0600)] <michelled> but I feel it's a step in the right direction

[16:09:17 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cindyli, if you are there, another typo

[16:09:24 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> dammit

[16:10:50 CST(-0600)] <michelled> Bosmon: I just took alexn through my changes so I'm going to push it to demo

[16:11:03 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it will at least give us a base for high contrast styling to work off

[16:11:10 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> cool

[16:11:43 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> I was just going to say to cindyli that I noticed one of the changes last night had a typo for "hanlder"

[16:11:54 CST(-0600)]

[16:12:05 CST(-0600)] <michelled> yes, I saw that too after pushing it

[16:13:58 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> avtar - the videoplayer build until very recently was at http://build.fluidproject.org/videodemo/videoPlayer/demos/Mammals.html

[16:14:01 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> But it seems to be gone

[16:16:46 CST(-0600)] <avtar> Bosmon: i started a new build which should recreate the directory

[16:16:52 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Thanks, avtar

[16:16:59 CST(-0600)] <avtar> i'll take a closer look once the floe work is out of the way

[18:22:54 CST(-0600)] <avtar> Bosmon: are you around?