[08:29:12 CST(-0600)] <kasper> yura1, ping
[08:56:42 CST(-0600)] <yura1> kasper:
[08:56:43 CST(-0600)] <yura1> hi
[08:57:16 CST(-0600)] <yura1> kasper: you should also join our #fluid-tech channel , we discuss sum fun stuff there sometimes
[09:04:34 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled, anastasiac, the pull request for IE8 styling issue is ready for review: https://github.com/fluid-project/studios.fluidproject.org/pull/32
[09:05:06 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx cindyli
[09:05:10 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np
[09:06:47 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: why did you need to change from using 'bloginfo' to 'echo'?
[09:07:28 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: bloginfo is a function that's being called over and over again, which is unnecessary considering the performance
[09:07:50 CST(-0600)] <michelled> echo is more performant?
[09:08:45 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: ^
[09:08:59 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> well, the point is not at the 'echo', it's to save the function returned value into a var and access that var afterwards using 'w=echo'
[09:09:08 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> typo, 'echo'*
[09:10:46 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: I'm confused - I don't see anywhere that assigns the results of the call to echo to a var
[09:11:37 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> wp-content/themes/fluid-studios/header.php
[09:11:37 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> line 22
[09:11:41 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: ^
[09:12:32 CST(-0600)] <michelled> oh, so the call to echo is actually using the variable 
[09:12:37 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> exactly
[09:12:37 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx for explaining cindyli
[09:12:39 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> n
[09:12:41 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np
[09:13:01 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: it looks like you took out the link to the Neuton font - was that intentional?
[09:13:21 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: that has been moved into style-media.css
[09:14:03 CST(-0600)] <michelled> why was it moved cindyli?
[09:14:09 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> along with "@media"s. As mentioned in the pull request - "The mix of the regular css classes and https://github.com/import, https://github.com/media keywords in one single css file is not handled properly in IE8."
[09:14:49 CST(-0600)] <michelled> ok, thanks cindyli
[09:14:52 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np
[09:18:55 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: what about stylesheet_url?
[09:20:14 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: since we now have 2 stylesheets, which i think different calls to retrieve them only introduces confusing
[09:20:52 CST(-0600)] <michelled> can you point me to where they are being included?
[09:21:28 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> header.php, line 40, 41
[09:22:09 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: shouldn't the inclusion of style_media be in an if?
[09:22:24 CST(-0600)] <michelled> if not IE < 9?
[09:23:02 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> no, it needs to be there at the presence of any browser
[09:23:29 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> what i did was to split one style.css into two: style.css & style_media.css
[09:23:37 CST(-0600)] <michelled> so IE just doesn't like them in a single file/
[09:23:38 CST(-0600)] <michelled> ?
[09:23:43 CST(-0600)] <michelled> it's fine with them split out into 2 files?
[09:23:45 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> yes, exactly
[09:23:48 CST(-0600)] <michelled> wow
[09:24:01 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> interesting, right? took me a while to figure out
[09:24:26 CST(-0600)] <michelled> that's crazy! I'm glad you figured it out
[09:25:16 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i'm glad too.
[09:26:22 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> woah, weird new TextMate
[09:26:26 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> No more drawer
[09:51:47 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: what are you working on at the moment?
[09:58:45 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: in priority order - 1. studio-31 pul request: use proper js function; 2. limit post title length - I've found a way but will need you and anastasiac to have a look on the way that the error is prompted; 3. studio-25 - haven't started yet
[10:02:01 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled: just noticed that you've merged studio-31 pul request into the project repo? should I write a proper js function for the go-back link?
[10:03:10 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: I think it's worth doing, don't you? I merged in your changes so we could test the dev site in IE
[10:03:32 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> cool. michelled. proceeding..
[10:15:59 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli, I have a question about the difference between a PageEnhancer and a UIEnhancer. I know our demos and tests for FatPanelUIOptions work with a PageEnhancer on the page. Should they also work with a regular UIEnhancer, or does the PageEnhancer offer something special that FatPanelUIOptions needs?
[10:26:52 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: one difference is that pageEnhancer registers its child, UIEnhancer, into staticEnvironment
[10:27:08 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i think all our demos should use pageEnhancer tho
[10:27:29 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> ah, interesting. So if I wanted to use UIEnhancer, I'd have to register the enhancer into the environment… that explains the errors I'm seeing
[10:28:08 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> what errors are you seeing? with fluid studios? anastasiac
[10:29:07 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> yes, cindyli, I'm trying to apply the global theme to the html element instead of the body. PageEnhancer defaults to body, so I have to use UIEnhancer instead.
[10:29:24 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> i see
[10:32:07 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: you need UIEnhancer in this case, or i'm thinking maybe you can still use pageEnhancer by overridding the UIEnhancer container to a specific html element
[10:41:53 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: by looking into the code, overriding the UIEnhancer container seems not practical. The munging on container was not built into enhancer
[10:42:15 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli, do you mean uienhancer, or page enhancer?
[10:42:25 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> page enhancer
[10:42:44 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> right, that's why I'm trying to use uienhancer directly, instead of page enhancer
[10:51:46 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> so michelled and cindyli: it seems you currently can't put the uienhancer on the html element because the way it calculates text size in px assumes that the 'container' has a parent, which <html> doesn't
[10:53:11 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: i wonder how your container can be <html> element?
[10:53:37 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindly, I deliberately set the container to html - that's the whole reason I'm using uienhancer instead of page enhancer
[10:53:54 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I'm trying to apply the themes to the entire document, not just the <body> element
[10:54:19 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> I think I'll try michelled's suggestion of a hook into an event, and not use UIO's theme switching
[10:57:03 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ok, anastasiac. i'm still curious why entire document? anything in <header> that needs to be manipulated?
[10:57:46 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> no, I'm trying to add the background pattern to the space off to the right of the "show prefs" button by placing it on the entire HTML
[10:58:02 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> that works, but when you switch themes in uio, it doesn't get rid of the pattern
[11:02:41 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ah. ok
[11:40:30 CST(-0600)] greggy Is
[12:46:49 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled, anastasiac, i just submitted a pull request to deal with the issue that the "go back" link only steps back one level - https://github.com/fluid-project/studios.fluidproject.org/pull/35
[12:47:35 CST(-0600)] <michelled> thx cindyli
[12:47:39 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> np
[12:47:51 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> michelled, anastasiac, do you have a minute to have a look and discuss about the behaviour of the plugin that's to control the post title length at my desk?
[12:48:21 CST(-0600)] <michelled> cindyli: anastasiac is on a call
[12:48:27 CST(-0600)] <michelled> we can chat once she's done
[12:48:37 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> sounds good
[13:42:36 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindlyli, I have a question about the UIO "onUIOptionsRefresh" option: Should this event fire any time an option is changed using a FatPanel control?
[13:43:38 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli: ^
[13:44:12 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> anastasiac: let me find out
[13:44:39 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> cindyli, it seems to me that it should fire when a setting is changed, but it's not - only on save or reset
[13:44:48 CST(-0600)] <anastasiac> but I could be misunderstanding
[13:44:57 CST(-0600)] <cindyli> ah, interesting