fluid-work IRC Logs-2010-03-11

[16:41:21 EST(-0500)] <yura> michelled: the patch is attached to http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-297
[16:41:37 EST(-0500)] <michelled> ok, I'll have a look
[16:41:43 EST(-0500)] <yura> thanks
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[10:00:05 EST(-0500)] <yura> michelled: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-297 has a fresh patch with improvements you suggested
[10:00:23 EST(-0500)] <michelled> thanks yura - I'll look at it soon
[10:00:27 EST(-0500)] <yura> thanks
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[10:05:46 EST(-0500)] <boyan> hi, michelled
[10:05:59 EST(-0500)] <boyan> do you have time to go through some questions I have
[10:07:48 EST(-0500)] <michelled> yes, I'll ping you in a couple minutes and we can skpye
[10:09:50 EST(-0500)] <boyan> ok, 10x
[10:16:26 EST(-0500)] <michelled> boyan: is now good?
[10:17:59 EST(-0500)] <boyan> michelled: yes, I'll call you on skype
[10:40:58 EST(-0500)] <sveto> hi, jameswy, do you have a moment for a couple of questions?
[10:41:09 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> sveto: Yep, what's up?
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[10:42:17 EST(-0500)] <sveto> I'm trying to get the digit fields in the code entry screen read by voice over, I accomplished some by switching to textareas or inputs, but then they are announced as "text field, double tap to edit"
[10:42:26 EST(-0500)] <sveto> even though they are disabled
[10:42:46 EST(-0500)] <sveto> I couldn't find a way to make voiceover perceive them as disabled too
[10:43:17 EST(-0500)] <sveto> so do you think this is acceptable?
[10:49:43 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Hm.
[10:50:45 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Sveto: I don't think it's acceptable to a VO user that what should be a button is announced as "text field, double tap to edit".
[10:50:55 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Highly confusing.
[10:51:40 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Is there another workaround you could try?
[10:52:09 EST(-0500)] <sveto> jameswy: sorry, I think I didn't make it quite clear - I'm talking about the code entry block, the two digits fields...
[10:52:35 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Sveto: Aha. Gotcha.
[10:53:22 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> Still unacceptable, I'm afraid,
[10:54:00 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> The user's being told he/she can double-tap to edit it, but can't. That's pretty darn confusing.
[10:55:20 EST(-0500)] <sveto> yes, it is... I'm short of ideas for now, was thinking to add a label announced "read-only" and then "double tap to edit", but it is still the same problem
[10:56:40 EST(-0500)] <sveto> well, from yesterdays talk I understand that it is still acceptable to some degree to have the text on screen even if it is not announced until focused manually, so we have that with the current version
[10:57:51 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> sveto: Does the current version use text fields, regular text, or images for the code entry block?
[10:58:14 EST(-0500)] <sveto> jameswy: it is using regular text - spans
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[11:01:17 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> sveto: Hm... ideally we want focus on the number updates in the entry block, but I'm guessing we can't do that in a span?
[11:03:00 EST(-0500)] <sveto> jameswy: I think spans on their own can't receive focus, but I have to check
[11:04:26 EST(-0500)] <jameswy> sveto: Alrighty.
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[11:42:21 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, can you send me an email about the camera detection?
[11:43:37 EST(-0500)] <boyan> jhung, sure, I'll do
[11:45:17 EST(-0500)] <jhung> boyan, thanks!
[11:45:54 EST(-0500)] <boyan> no problem, jhung
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[17:08:42 EST(-0500)] <yura> hi michelled, http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/ENGAGE-422 now has both the patch and unit tests for the issue (that are first for artifact view)
[17:09:26 EST(-0500)] <michelled> thanks yura - I'll put it on my list