fluid-work IRC Logs-2013-05-07

[10:10:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidiv> i've an appt at 11.30 so i'll be taking an early lunch for that. my stand up is: continuing with adding font icons to infusion.

[13:35:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> someone cleaned up the build page majorly

[15:22:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, you can thank Justin_o for the build site clean-up

[15:26:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac and michelled: I wanted to brainstorm with you about our GSoC projects this year

[15:27:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Do you guys have a few minutes to Skype at some point today?

[15:27:58 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sure colinclark

[15:28:45 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I'm heads-down doing some writing for jessm for the Tech Awards application that's going in tomorrow

[15:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok

[15:28:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> fair enough

[15:29:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Do you want to chat for a bit and then we can confer with anastasiac once she's finished with her deadline?

[15:29:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sure colinclark

[15:39:23 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, you offered to provide me with some bullet points around what's being implemented by whom in GPII/Cloud4All, to help elaborate on the impact of UI Options

[15:39:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes

[15:39:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then I got distracted

[15:39:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then I tried to pawn it off on jessm

[15:39:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> who just disappeared

[15:39:48 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> LOL

[15:39:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so it looks like I'm going for it

[15:40:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, to start, we're in the midst of reworking UI Options from being a "component that you can embed in your website" to a "framework for building preferences editing components"

[15:40:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> including, of course the default style of component

[15:41:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I document some of the details of this shift here: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Preferences+for+Global+Access+Architecture

[15:41:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yes, I had a look at that

[15:41:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So UI Options is increasingly become the "engine" with which people are building preferences editors

[15:42:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, can you give me an idea of some partners who are building their prefs editors using the UIO engine?

[15:42:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In Cloud4all, the two instances of UIO are the Personal Control Panel and the Preferences Management Tool, which you are well familiar with

[15:42:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The PMT is being designed and developed by Fraunhofer, CERTH, and us

[15:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The PCP by us and Astea

[15:43:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and HdM Stuttgart

[15:43:17 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, are there any AT vendors who are actively incorporating these technologies?

[15:43:28 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> (or vendors of non-AT things)

[15:43:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And then we'll be building the "preferences discovery playground" with ISKME, IBM and us

[15:43:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> More broadly, yes

[15:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You can use the list of SP3 partners from Cloud4all

[15:44:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> all of whom are implementing the GPII preferences server and preferences format

[15:44:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which means users will be able to edit their preferences using UIO and friends

[15:44:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Highlights include:

[15:44:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> TextHelp's ReadWrite Gold and their new BrowseAloud tool

[15:44:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> CodeFactory's MobileAccessibility for Android

[15:44:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Full Measure's Maavis

[15:45:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> kasper: Who else am I missing? ^^^

[15:45:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or michelled

[15:46:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> is this helping, anastasiac?

[15:46:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, yes, very much so, this is excellent

[15:46:20 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> just what I'm looking for

[15:46:43 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> is there an actual list of "sp3 partners" somewhere?

[15:47:24 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark: what are we listing? key C4A partners, or only those who do things related to UIO?

[15:47:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> the former

[15:47:59 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> well, I am interested in people working with the UIO technologies

[15:48:14 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> there is Barcelona Digital and their EASIT app

[15:48:24 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> that's using UIO

[15:48:48 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ... but then, I never understood to what extend it's just being made for C4A

[15:49:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> kasper, colinclark this is great info, thanks. It's helpful for what I'm writing, but its also just plain cool to know the real places that UIO is actually being used.

[15:49:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes

[15:50:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think the key is to see this as a "preferences ecosystem"

[15:50:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> not just UIO

[15:50:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so we've got the infrastructure: the preferences server and the standard format

[15:50:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> for preferences

[15:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yes, that's the context, I know. I'm just typing "uio" because it's easier (wink)

[15:50:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yup

[15:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> ok, well in terms of namedropping, Microsoft is at least involved on paper for Windows, and we're doing Gnome 3 Desktop for linux

[15:52:11 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> (Emergya for the latter)

[15:52:24 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> usage of preferences - not UIO

[15:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> kasper, that's good info. Is this "Cloud4All work", or "GPII work", and how do you distinguish between the two?

[15:55:30 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> well - Cloud4All is a subset of GPII, I guess... But we should probably call it Cloud4All work

[15:55:40 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> that'll make the funders happy

[15:56:01 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thats good. I actually thought it was the reverse (that gpii was part of c4a).

[15:56:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks for clarifying

[15:56:14 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> np