fluid-work IRC Logs-2013-04-03

[09:54:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> hey arashs, yesterday you were saying you had an update for the icon font? Has that been uploaded somewhere?

[09:57:11 CDT(-0500)] <arashs> jhung: I don't remember saying that...

[09:59:47 CDT(-0500)] <arashs> I talked about other links and applications that might be useful, and added them to FLUID-4934

[10:00:18 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> arashs: ah, cool. Thanks arashs. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing any updates. (smile)

[10:01:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey jvass and danaayotte: jessm asked me if I could ping you guys about a design check-in today

[10:01:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was hoping to join for a bit and tell you guys about my "Security Gateway" meeting this morning

[10:01:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Does after standup work?

[10:02:07 CDT(-0500)] <arashs> no problem jhung, let me know if we you need to update the font

[10:02:16 CDT(-0500)] <danaayotte> sure, colinclark

[10:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <jvass> colinclark, yep (smile)

[10:13:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool!

[10:28:15 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> michelled, yzen: i would like to move the demo-tts-proxy instance from ec2 to the openstack cluster today which i believe will involve changing urls

[10:28:23 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> what are your schedules like today?

[10:28:47 CDT(-0500)] <yzen1> avtar: i should be available after 2.30 ?

[10:29:03 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> ok that works

[10:29:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: is today a good day to do that move? ^

[10:29:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> NO

[10:29:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)

[10:29:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> or should we wait until we've heard from Jutta?

[10:29:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Sorry

[10:29:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I should have told you all that I did indeed hear from Jutta

[10:29:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> her meeting with Vic was rescheduled for, well, right now

[10:30:06 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> !

[10:30:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so everyone cross their fingers

[10:30:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and leave it up on EC2 for a few hours

[10:30:30 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> (smile)

[10:30:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm sorry, I totally forgot to share the news

[10:43:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> This new PHeT simulation in HTML5 reminds me of Justin_o's post-wedding party at the volleyball place: http://www.colorado.edu/physics/phet/dev/forces-and-motion-basics-html/0.0.8/forces-and-motion-basics/forces-and-motion-basics.html

[10:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <danaayotte> colinclark, did you ride a skateboard while balancing a refrigerator on your head? sorry I missed it!

[10:54:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it was awesome

[10:57:00 CDT(-0500)] <danaayotte> colinclark: are we meeting now?

[10:57:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we're just waiting for jessm

[10:57:17 CDT(-0500)] <danaayotte> ok

[12:33:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> fluid-everyone - you may be interested in this recent RFC which appears to specify what we call EL expressions only with "." replaced by "/": http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6901

[12:33:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But with an even more grotty escaping system

[12:34:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> God knows from where they sourced this crazy system involving "~" .......

[12:48:09 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: good morrow

[13:10:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey, thealphanerd!

[13:10:28 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so GSOC might be a possibility for me

[13:10:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh yes, Bosmon, and other Zyp spec

[13:10:53 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I just got an email from David Zicarelli about a part time opportunity at cycling 74

[13:10:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thealphanerd: ah, cool!

[13:11:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that would be AWESOME

[13:11:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what would you do for Zicarelli?

[13:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> so depending on how that works out GSOC may be the perfect compliment

[13:11:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, it would be a very perfect compliment

[13:11:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> as long as he's okay with you working on open source DSP frameworks (smile)

[13:11:40 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> not 100% yet. I went and asked Robert Henke yesterday if he could pass my resume around for me at cycling. Today I get the email from David

[13:11:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> complement, folks

[13:11:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> sorry

[13:12:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> sorry

[13:12:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I make that mistake a lot

[13:12:10 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Being a coder doesn't let you off English skilz (smile)

[13:12:13 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> Bosmon: I would like to complement you on your grammer skills

[13:12:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Especially if the project involves adding vaguely Max-like features to said open source framework

[13:12:17 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> (tongue)

[13:12:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hahaha

[13:12:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> thealphanerd - I would like to smite you with a Rod of Smiting (TM)

[13:12:31 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> lolol

[13:12:38 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> btw what are the dates for super collider conference?

[13:12:47 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> the paper I contributed got accepted to nime

[13:12:53 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> congrats, NERDD!

[13:13:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> May 20-25

[13:13:09 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> but I might sit this one out… due to north korea, and the fact that it is the same dates as a performance I have

[13:13:19 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> super collider conference could work for me

[13:13:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> nime is in S. Korea

[13:13:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ?

[13:13:26 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> nime is in S. Korea

[13:13:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: I have been making a concerted effort to not make that mistake

[13:13:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so you are both thanked and cursed for pointing it out

[13:13:57 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> colinclark - cheers (smile)

[13:14:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (tongue)

[13:14:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You've got it pretty good, thealphanerd...

[13:14:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hand your resume to Monolake, get an email back from the creator of Max

[13:14:32 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> coat tails my friend

[13:14:48 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: all about having the balls to ask (big grin)

[13:14:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah

[13:15:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> as you may know from my twitter feed, I apparently need to grow some (tongue)

[13:15:14 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> really?

[13:15:15 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> let me check

[13:15:54 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> can you give me a summary? I don't read twitter that much

[13:15:58 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> also /s/balls/chutzpah

[13:16:20 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I don't want to create another pygate

[13:17:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh, I read a paper about a video maker I like a lot

[13:17:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Jonas Mekas

[13:17:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and Wittgenstein

[13:18:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> arguing essentially for a non-universalist, non-transcendental model of art grounded in the ordinary experience of life

[13:18:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm on a question to slowly chop away at the ontologies and conventions of art and music, as you might imagine

[13:18:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so I thought it was a pretty okay paper

[13:19:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> my classmate then says to me, "I think you need to grow a pair!"

[13:19:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it was shocking (tongue)

[13:19:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "Umm, could you elaborate on how I might realize that particular suggestion?"

[13:21:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anyway, neither here nor there, thealphanerd

[13:21:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Do you see Herndon much at school?

[13:21:31 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> yup

[13:21:35 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> have a couple classes with her this quarter

[13:22:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> nice; she teaches, or attends?

[13:22:52 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> attends

[13:22:56 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> she is in the DMA program

[13:22:57 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> first year

[13:24:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yup

[13:24:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> saw that

[13:24:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> She's the newest darling of The Wire right now--and rightfully so, I think

[13:26:02 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> indeed

[13:26:10 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> she has quite a bit of buzz behind her

[13:32:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> well, thealphanerd, it would be great if you end up interested in the GSoC project

[13:35:01 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: I have been interested this whole time!

[13:35:05 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> it is more about making it work

[13:35:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yup

[13:35:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i get that (smile)

[13:35:25 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> I was really heart set on working for a larger company and getting a feeling for that world

[13:35:32 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> which I don't think cycling 74 would be

[13:35:54 CDT(-0500)] <thealphanerd> but I'm willing to pivot my summer to work with them as I think it would be an awesome opportunity

[13:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> hey fluid-everyone, we're going to have a chat today about roadmaps and plans for Floe and PGA and Cloud4all; everyone is welcome but no one is required

[13:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> I WANT TO COME

[13:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> except jessm, justin_ and michelled, who are required (smile)

[13:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What do you think the best means of communicating are?

[13:39:10 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> gotomeeting, but i don't think we can use it

[13:39:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Skype? Connect? Conversat.io? Borrow kasper's gotomeeting?

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[13:39:57 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> colinclark: gotomtg. would be great to try

[13:41:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I don't mind too much.... I tend to hate connect and gotomeeting

[13:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> kasper: any chance we can borrow gotomeeting?

[13:43:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> he's probably gone for the day

[13:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which leaves us Skype or conversat.io

[13:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> assuming my bandwidth can handle it (tongue)

[13:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> i guess Skype is the safest

[13:43:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: you make the call (smile)

[13:44:27 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I'm sort of keen to try out conversat.io

[13:44:45 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> we could start there and move to Skype if it's not good

[13:44:51 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> let me go to the collab room and get set up

[13:44:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> brb

[13:47:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://conversat.io/fluid-work

[13:47:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Chrome, y'all

[13:47:17 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> what happened to cats?

[13:47:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (was that good, jessm?)

[13:47:34 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> good use of y'all!

[13:50:08 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark: on my way out the door, but I can open gotomeeting if you want?

[13:50:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think we'll manage

[13:50:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but thanks

[13:50:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> have a good night

[13:51:34 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> cool

[13:51:35 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> you too

[13:52:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> fluid-everyone: join us at conversat.io/fluid

[13:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> michelled: fluid-work

[13:53:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> oops

[13:53:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh well

[13:53:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> two rooms

[13:53:13 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> where should we be?

[13:53:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we'll see who's more popular

[13:53:20 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> oh, sorry - we'll switch

[13:53:25 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> too late

[13:53:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> we switched

[13:53:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh no

[13:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we switched

[13:56:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> where are we, in fact

[13:58:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://conversat.io/fluid

[13:58:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but it's not going great

[14:18:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Here's the link to our planning Etherpad: http://openetherpad.org/5gGCjhSDSH

[15:32:25 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> hi, Bosmon

[15:32:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli!

[15:32:42 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hello

[15:32:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> How is your branch getting along?

[15:33:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> more unit tests are coming but as you said, some early reviews are certainly welcome (wink)

[15:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cindyli - yes - do you think you could issue an early pull request?

[15:33:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> here u go - https://github.com/cindyli/infusion/commits/FLUID-4927

[15:33:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure

[15:34:08 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And perhaps some hints about areas you might want looked at early?

[16:12:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> fluid-everyone: Does anyone else have problems accessing http://build.fluidproject.org/infusion/demos/ ?

[16:13:24 CDT(-0500)] <danaayotte> anastasiac: I do too

[16:13:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm

[16:52:53 CDT(-0500)] <avtar> fluid-everyone: http://build.fluidproject.org/infusion/demos/ should be accessible now

[16:53:04 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Thanks, avtar!

[21:47:45 CDT(-0500)] <supungs> Guys I'm new here

[21:51:27 CDT(-0500)] <supungs> Anybody here.....

[23:26:26 CDT(-0500)] <supungs> How can I claim a ticket for a bug?