fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-11-23

[09:16:35 CST(-0600)] <jhung> cindyli, justin_o, yura: I pushed up changes to help docs and some styling changes to my repo. Merge when you have a chance.

[09:16:55 CST(-0600)] <yura> cool jhung

[09:18:12 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks.. i'll pull those down

[09:18:27 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o, yura, cindyli: also I was talking to Martin and he suspects the uneven lighting to be causing problems. So maybe move the testing setup to the collab room and turn on all the lights?

[09:18:42 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Basically the shadows may be messing things up.

[09:18:49 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: i'm going to try to get dewapring in stalled on a couple of machines so i can test it easier

[09:19:12 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Also, he said to try shooting with little perspective warping… which means shoot pretty much straight on 90-degrees.

[09:19:17 CST(-0600)] <jhung> okay justin_o.

[09:19:29 CST(-0600)] <jhung> I'm going to try Virtualbox on my machine and try the multi-thread.

[09:20:09 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay.. by the way the collabroom is booked up today

[09:20:42 CST(-0600)] <jhung> okay.

[09:21:22 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Do what you can. But I think the light from the window casts some hard shadows on the outer edges of the book and makes the background and string appear in different colours.

[09:21:34 CST(-0600)] <jhung> If only we had a studio. (big grin)

[10:04:00 CST(-0600)] <jhung> cindyli - is the install script pulling martin's latest changes or will I have to manually pull those down?

[10:21:25 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: just tried running dwarping from the command line again and noticed that it now requires that colsel.py be run first to select the page and background colours

[10:22:14 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Is it because there is no data file on disk?

[10:22:30 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Color data file that is.

[10:22:53 CST(-0600)] <jhung> If that is the case, we can add a good default, no?

[10:23:34 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: i'm not sure why it is

[10:24:34 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: maybe, there's a .colors file now

[10:25:37 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: checking with martin now about adding a default .colours file

[10:26:38 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: martin's worried that it might confuse the user when the colours aren't right and things don't work

[10:28:40 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Hmmm...

[10:28:48 CST(-0600)] <jhung> Let's talk about this after stand-up

[10:28:55 CST(-0600)] <jhung> justin_o

[10:30:24 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung: sounds good.. martin has a suggestion that i'll run by you guys

[11:48:55 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> jhung, yura: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Proposed+Decapod+Dewarp+Server+Architecture

[13:56:11 CST(-0600)] <Justin_o> yura, jhung : i just pushed up the changes to the dewarp server to handle the launching of the colour picker

[13:56:38 CST(-0600)] <jhung> thanks justin_o

[15:32:41 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> yura: You good?

[15:33:12 CST(-0600)] <yura> colinclark: i think so, Bosmon said the pull request looks good

[15:33:59 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> great

[15:34:21 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Other than the suspicious "0.value" issue yes - but this is clearly just a temporary strategy

[15:34:28 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> And it was in the previous pull request which was already approved : P

[16:32:01 CST(-0600)] <thealphanerd> colinclark: http://ofps.oreilly.com/titles/9781449339739/

[16:32:08 CST(-0600)] <thealphanerd> oh I already showed that to you yesterday didn't I

[16:32:23 CST(-0600)] * thealphanerd <--- broken record

[16:32:44 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> (smile)

[18:18:29 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> sgithens, colinclark - I just had to share this OS/2 reminiscence article with you

[18:18:31 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/23/why_os2_failed_part_one/page2.html

[18:18:59 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> "After Microsoft lost the source code for the actual build of OS/2 we shipped, I reported a bug triggered when you double-clicked on Chkdsk twice: the program would fire up twice and both would try to fix the disk at the same time, causing corruption. I noted that this 'may not be consistent with the user's goals as he sees them at this time'. This was labelled a user error, and some guy

[18:18:59 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> called Ballmer questioned why I had this 'obsession' with perfect code."

[18:19:02 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Ballmer questioned why I had this "obsession" with perfect code.

[18:19:03 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> HA

[18:19:07 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> hahahaha

[18:19:09 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> (smile)

[18:19:30 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> KLOCs

[18:19:54 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> "may not be consistent with the user's goals as he sees them at the time" is a fantastic phrase, worthy of Bignose

[18:19:55 CST(-0600)] <colinclark> Bosmon: your KLOC count is down! Less JSON, more for loops!

[18:20:05 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> yes!

[18:20:15 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Thankfully we hate things that cut down on typing, such as COFFESCRIPT : P

[18:22:30 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> "SheIndicatePossibleDeath" is a fantastic name

[18:24:46 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> "After years of manuals that consisted of insider jokes and interesting puzzles, the Unix devs admired our documentation. The DOS programmers thought Christmas had come and wanted to come and work with us."

[18:24:50 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> These really were the glory days

[18:24:53 CST(-0600)] <Bosmon> Never to be seen again

[18:58:24 CST(-0600)] <thealphanerd> Bosmon / colinclark : lol