fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-08-30

[08:39:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i've pulled in your changes and am looking into the busy cursor

[08:39:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> the wait cursor thing

[08:39:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i have updated the code to add the style

[08:39:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think the issue you were seeing is because of inheritance

[08:45:05 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> but you figure not() would prevent that sort of thing. Afterall that's the whole point, no? So did you get not() working as expected justin_o?

[08:45:21 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> not(yet)

[08:47:04 CDT(-0500)] <jhung>

[08:47:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I've pulled down your changes to UI and server. I'm going to do some a11y testing this morning.

[08:48:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks.. okay .. so i think i'm getting this.. question.. where do you put your jQuery ui styling overrides?

[08:53:06 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: there are some for the accordion. Not sure exactly where it is. Let me see...

[08:53:25 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks

[08:55:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i think i found it

[08:55:37 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> yeah in exporter.css

[08:56:03 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> There used to be a few more but I think we removed that when we fixed the flexible height issue for the accordion.

[09:00:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: cool.. okay.. i've pushed up the changes.. give it a try

[09:01:17 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> okay justin_o

[09:01:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i didn't notice one issue though and that is that the text "Decapod 0.5" which i guess should be 0.6 now.. i'll go change that.. has an i-bar cursor but now it has a pointer when it's busy

[09:02:08 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok

[09:03:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: fixed the breadcrum to be Decapod 0.6

[09:03:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: i have some code related things to clean up.. let me know if there are any other changes you need me to make or bugs to fix

[09:11:31 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> ok

[09:22:07 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled: what should be done about FLUID-4780 ?

[09:22:13 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4780

[09:23:23 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: we need to talk about it with Justin_o and come up with a solution

[09:23:29 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> that we are happy with

[09:23:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: are you working on Floe today?

[09:25:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> alexn: maybe you can focus on this first: https://github.com/fluid-project/videoPlayer/pull/43

[09:26:19 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> I think I will do a half FLOE half CSpace day today and tomorrow a whole day of FLOE

[09:26:32 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> and I will start looking into that pull request 43

[09:26:59 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good alexn, also please follow up on assembla 745 when you get a chance

[09:28:04 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> oh the change is on staging and I already submitted one to production few minutes ago

[09:28:07 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> should be resolved today

[09:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> I also tested in IE and it works good. There are some issues but they are not related to 745 and to the problem we were trying to resolve

[09:39:58 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> great thanks!

[09:41:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled, alexn: when would you like to talk?

[09:41:42 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> I'm good any time

[09:41:44 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> how about after standup?

[09:41:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> sure, sounds good

[09:41:56 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> ok

[09:51:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o, yura1: I just pushed Bosmon's pull request that removes trundlers

[09:52:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I tested the infusion components but since this is a change to the framework I thought I'd give you a heads up

[09:52:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: thanks for the warning.. any api changes that we should be aware of?

[09:53:03 CDT(-0500)] <yura1> michelled: thansk

[09:53:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yeah, some of the unsupported API functions have been removed

[09:53:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> but it's likely you've never used them

[09:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: okay.. thanks

[09:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: fluid.get and fluid.set now take another arg, but you shouldn't need to know about that - it's the framework's business

[09:54:55 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> in fact, I don't think we should document the extra arg

[09:55:03 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> but we'll need to talk to Bosmon about that

[09:56:13 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: the fix I pushed yesterday does make one thing simpler - if you name your lifecycle functions following the pattern we are used to, you don't need to put them into your defaults block - they'll be automatically found

[09:56:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: okay.. thanks.. i guess we'll need to have some new convention for unsupported or undocumented args..

[09:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: that's cool.. so it will just pick them off the object? is there any requirement for order now?

[09:57:42 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: I don't think there are order requirements, but I'm not sure

[09:58:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: okay.. thanks

[09:59:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> np

[10:15:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy1 or clown_mtg, I am trying to enable the cursor keys in orca so I can navigate a page. I have enabled Navigation Keys but this doesn't seem to do anything (orca keeps reading back the next / prev line). Any idea what other setting I should look at?

[10:18:22 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> jhung: don't know, I'm not well versed with orca

[10:18:52 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> jhung: which browser, it may be a browser setting

[10:20:38 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy1, FF12.01

[10:21:05 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> I'll take a look at browser settings.

[10:21:08 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> jhung: are you able to navugate by keyboard without orca?

[10:22:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: this sounds like a bug we had come across before where navigation would die with orca on.. i think clown_mtg mentioned a reason or work around, but can't remember at the moment.. there may be a jira about it though

[10:27:48 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> greggy1, it works when orca is not running.

[10:28:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: okay. I'll find that Jira.

[10:29:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Found it justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/DECA-267

[10:41:23 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jhung, sorry I really was wrapped in a meeting.

[10:41:50 CDT(-0500)] <clown> but I asked joanie your question. She suggested 'f7'. It toggles caret mode.

[10:42:18 CDT(-0500)] <clown> to be more specific: f7 in orca toggles its caret mode.

[10:44:03 CDT(-0500)] <clown> the case that Justin_o is remembering is arrow key navigation of tabs in a tab-panel. I remember there was a work around, but I don't remember what it was.

[10:44:10 CDT(-0500)] * clown looks up old emails

[10:53:25 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> clown: Justin_o documented it in the jira i linked above.

[10:53:58 CDT(-0500)] <clown> jhung: yes.

[10:55:13 CDT(-0500)] <clown> and my email goes on to say that Orca does not, in the tab-panel/accordion case, give up control of the arrow keys. I argued there that it should.

[10:56:54 CDT(-0500)] <clown> on the other side of the issue is, according to some, geckos historically broken caret navigation. screen readers are reluctant to trust the browser (and the author) to have properly implemented that.

[13:31:21 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled, Justin_o: I have a simple code for a tooltip problem. Where should I put it or just send it to you for a review ?

[13:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> either push it to your github or put it in a pastie so we can see it

[13:40:49 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> michelled, Justin_o: https://github.com/anvk/tooltip.example

[13:56:51 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx alexn!

[15:20:03 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: can we close DECA-288?

[16:05:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've issued a pull request for the video player keyboard a11y: https://github.com/fluid-project/videoPlayer/pull/51 Once that's in, I'll file the three remaining issues

[16:05:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx anastasiac