fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-04-23
[08:19:03 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> countdown til accepted students announcement
[08:19:06 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/customcounter.html?msg=Accepted+students+announcement&day=23&month=04&year=2012&hour=19&min=00&sec=00&p0=0
[09:18:24 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> anastasiac: i've updated the pull request for IDI-5 (https://github.com/inclusive-design/idi-theme/pull/11) according to ur feedback. can u have a look? thanks
[09:18:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, gotcha. Not sure when I'll get to it, tho - we're moving on to the GPII demo work this week, right?
[09:20:08 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, that's true, anastasiac. perhaps put it aside till we get back to it.
[09:20:25 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, yura: can we have a quick check-in to make sure we're all on the same page for this week'd GPII demo sprint?
[09:20:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sounds good. now? where?
[09:20:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, maybe you can just come over here, and we can chat for a minute
[09:21:02 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure
[10:56:04 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> anastasiac: hey there, just wanted to check in since i missed standup
[10:56:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> good morning, jessm
[10:56:30 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> only for 4 more minutes
[10:56:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we're doing well here: cindyli, yura and I had a check-in this morning to get us oriented to this week's GPII work
[10:57:24 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli is starting in on the node.js server for the demo, with yura's help
[10:57:46 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'm starting on the AfA settings store; cindyli will pair with me on that
[10:57:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> awesome
[10:57:59 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> and yura is working on other stuff for gpii stuff
[10:58:08 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> related to th edemo
[10:58:23 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> thanks for the update – sounds great – anything that is of concern so far?
[10:58:45 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jessm, no, I think we're good. We all know what we're to do, etc
[10:59:51 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> good to hear
[11:08:50 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> and fwiw, my day is going to be spent on Cloud4All – we've got a report coming up and I'm starting to get our materials organized for it
[12:12:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Can you fire me the link for the latest version of the Mammals demo?
[12:13:17 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I believe this is it: http://build.fluidproject.org/videodemo/videoPlayer/demos/Mammals.html
[12:14:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Do you know if there is a version that doesn't show captions by default?
[12:15:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I believe that's actually a bug:; the demo isn't actually configured to show captions by default. maybe cindyli or alexn can confirm if this is a known bug?
[12:16:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like it's too late to fix it for my demo
[12:16:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[12:16:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I can work around it
[12:22:26 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> colinclark, anastasiac: anastasiac and me stumbled upon this bug when we were working on ability to pull JSON captions from Universal Subtitles website. This bug was introduced by some of the regressions made along the way. So far as I remember the issue was in VideoPlayer_html5Captionator line 97 where it suppose to be elPaths.displayCaption or elPaths.displayCaptionS (I do not remember which name was an exactl one). Michelle asked us to tell
[12:23:29 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm. I remember that one. I thought the fix got in… maybe it's not been deployed to the server?
[12:25:56 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> hmm it seems that the channel truncated my message. just in case - I'm resending it in parts 
[12:26:09 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> anastasiac and me stumbled upon this bug when we were working on ability to pull JSON captions from Universal Subtitles website. This bug was introduced by some of the regressions made along the way. So far as I remember the issue was in VideoPlayer_html5Captionator line 97 where it suppose to be elPaths.displayCaption or elPaths.displayCaptionS (I do not remember which name was an exactl one).
[12:26:15 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> Michelle asked us to tell about the bug to Antranig so that he could fix it in one of his branches he was working on…. not sure what has happened next.
[12:26:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> right, it's supposed to be "elPaths.displayCaptions" i.e. with the 's'
[12:27:08 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I think we agreed that the fix would to in with my branch (FLUID-4694). it's not in the demo branch in the project repo
[12:27:42 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, my pull request is still outstanding: https://github.com/fluid-project/videoPlayer/pull/29
[12:35:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yes, that would be me 
[12:35:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh well
[12:41:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Any other bugs I should be aware of when I'm presenting, given that your pull request hasn't been merged into the VideoPlayer demo branch?
[12:44:01 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I'm sure the demo has plenty of bugs 
but I can't think of any particular gotchas that you should be aware of when demoing. When is your demo?
[12:44:09 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I could play with it for a bit to double-check
[12:44:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 3 pm
[12:44:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That would be helpful, if you can take a quick tour through it, just in case
[12:46:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> will do
[12:58:33 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> colinclark, I've emailed you a list of issues with the mammals demo. Nothing major, but a couple of things you might try to avoid in a demo, if you want it to look more slick
[12:59:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we've got JIRAs for all of these things
[13:00:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, do you know which github repo the media panel version of UIO lives in?
[13:02:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks, anastasiac
[13:02:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> np
[13:03:50 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, found it: antranig's 4607 branch
[13:39:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> anastasiac: yura and I are pretty much done with setting up mammals demo with node.js. let's pair up on AfA store whenever you are ready.
[13:39:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, I'm working on it now, so now is good
[13:39:36 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I'll come there
[13:44:31 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yura, do any of the the gpii settings every use colour for anything? does gpii have any agreed-upon format/vocabulary for colours in preferences?
[13:51:45 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> yura1: ^
[13:53:39 CDT(-0500)] <yura1> anastasiac: not really . i think if it's a general setting is should just match afa settings but have gpii format
[13:56:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> thanks, yura1. the iso spec doesn't really specify - leaves it as "operating system dependent"
[14:36:54 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> Hi everyone… I just found out my GSOC project was accepted and just wanted to let you all know how excited I am to be working with each and every one of you 
[14:37:27 CDT(-0500)] <jessm> yay TheAlphaNerd – congrats
[14:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd>
[14:37:41 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> sweet man congrats
[14:37:43 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> excited is an understatement
[14:37:59 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> I'm Toronto based as well… so I'll be in and out of the offices… if any of you work there
[14:38:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Cool TheAlphaNerd. Hope to meet you there some time.
[14:39:07 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> I will most likely be dropping in for a bit tomorrow… I do some other work on the 6th floor, research work with an ocad professor…
[14:39:22 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> so I'll probably take a minute to introduce myself around
[14:39:37 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> How'd you find out you were accepted?
[14:40:06 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Cool. I'll be in the office tomorrow as well. Some people will be away due to vacations.
[14:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> travis_84: they announced accepted projects today on the GSOC site… although there is a bit of a ddos situation going on right now
[14:43:15 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> too many nerdy over achievers clicking refresh… I should know… I was one of them
[14:43:16 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> lol
[14:43:46 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> lol ya same here
[14:45:33 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> haha
[14:45:46 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> I got a weird email that was just titled "Congratulations" from them but it seemed suspect since it was empty
[14:45:47 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> travis_84: are you a student or a fluid contributor?
[14:46:13 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> student
[14:48:23 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> sweet! it was accepted!
[14:48:56 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> hooray!
[14:49:01 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> which one did you do?
[14:49:05 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> or I guess are you doing LOL
[14:50:13 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> the "towards non-visual/accessible programming"
[14:51:12 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> I am going to try and create a working voice based html/css editor
[14:51:31 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hey there travis_84!
[14:51:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That's really excellent
[14:51:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I have a huge raft of links to forward to you, from CLAYTON
[14:52:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> anastasiac - that isn't the right branch
[14:52:46 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> I have been meaning to talk to you about the stuff I have been finding Bosmon
[14:52:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I wonder that people keep losing my branch
[14:52:56 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> that's really exciting… travis_84 are you thinking of working with alternative controllers at all?
[14:53:07 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> chrome's nightly might make the project possible
[14:53:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I hope that cindyli pointed out to you that the right branch is my FLUID-4531 branch
[14:53:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> travis_84 - look forward to hearing
[14:53:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Bosmon, I'm looking for the format that the media panel prefs are recorded in. I'll double-check if your 4531 branch has the same - thanks for the correction!
[14:55:11 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> TheAlphaNerd - yes but I am taking it a step at a time
[14:56:02 CDT(-0500)] <TheAlphaNerd> hahah sounds good to me… we are going to be working with alternative controllers for my project (the instrument project).. so keep me in the loop of where you are at, because maybe we could help each other out and keep from writing the same code twice
[14:56:50 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> JS is just now being allowed to have access to these devices that flash has been the only option for mic or cam access
[14:57:32 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> ya that sounds great
[14:57:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> travis_84 - it's exciting, in the long term
[14:58:18 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> To get a demo which works over the summer you still might have to look at something like PhoneGap.....
[14:58:46 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> http://neave.com/webcam/html5/
[14:59:28 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Or else your users could install OPERA MOBILE 12!!
[14:59:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Crazy world.....
[15:00:01 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Gosh, developers are so scary... they really shouldn't paste webapps consisting of full-page webcam vids of themselves : P
[15:01:09 CDT(-0500)] <travis_84> hah what are you saying? scary looking people?
[15:01:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi there ALEXEI! alexn
[15:02:05 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I heard from yura that you have been making great progress on CSPACE-4744
[15:02:17 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I was wondering whether I should plan to do anything on this issue, and if so what
[15:02:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Or whether you think you have it all in hand
[15:04:55 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> hi Bosmon
[15:05:08 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> it is been a while since the last time I looked at that issue
[15:06:29 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> Right now got carried away by the 2.4 release in CSpace. What about that bug - as far as I remember, I just found a CSS setting which should be set to make those plus icons to position properly. But I had hard times understanding existing dynamic CSS.
[15:06:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> yura mentioned you had been able to address a number of cases using purely CSS rather than needing to reform the markup?
[15:07:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, the existing dynamic CSS is rubbish, based on considering that the existing markup structure wasn't amenable to a better solution
[15:07:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But it sounds like you made progress using just CSS so far
[15:07:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Do you have some notes about which cases you could resolve and which you are yet to look ati?
[15:07:59 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> yes, I just need to refresh my memory on that issue
[15:08:27 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> I can try to find them, yes
[15:08:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> But also the somewhat separate issue of which release the CSpace team want this issue resolved by, and whether they want/need any help
[15:10:01 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> Bosmon: do you need my notes on that issue right now? or I have some time
[15:10:08 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Sure, there is time
[15:10:21 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I was just checking in about what the lifecycle for resolving this issue was
[15:10:45 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Since I see some comments on the JIRA that some of the team were expecting that this would be resolved for 2.4, and also seemed to be expecting that I was involved : P
[15:11:55 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> a-mazing. let me just go through some of my notes, emails and I can send you some information on what I found so far. Plus I have a patch which was my and Yura's collaboration for removing dynamic CSS and applying only pure CSS for one of the cases. I think there are only 3 different cases of styling and if you address them then all those plus icons will be fixed and shown properly on the page.
[15:16:14 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> alexn - that's really gerat
[15:16:26 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And do you think all 3 cases could be addressed without changes to the existing markup?
[15:20:57 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> Bosmon: It might require some markup changes…. I will let you know for sure once I go through my notes.
[15:21:54 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> alexn - cool
[15:23:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: I wonder if your 4531 branch is ready to be merged into master. if not, can you sync up this branch with the master since a couple of UIO fixes were merged into the master recently.
[15:23:35 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi cindyli, let me try to sync it up
[15:25:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Thanks!
[15:27:32 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi cindyli - I have merged it up with current master
[15:27:41 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I notice though that there seems to be a slight regression in the CSS styling
[15:27:43 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> great. thanks
[15:27:52 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> The panel buttons are now too short by about 1 pixel
[15:28:28 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> umm.. ok. i wonder if it's a regression or an improvement.
[15:28:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> That is, when you hover over the tab links, like "Layout and Navigation", the highlighting spills over the boundary of the button
[15:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ah
[15:29:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hmm
[15:29:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It seems it was there before the merge too
[15:30:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> was it with the master
[15:30:09 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> trying
[15:30:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> yes
[15:30:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok
[15:30:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It actually seems to be there in all recent revisions that I can find on all branches
[15:30:53 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> So, no worries
[15:31:00 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli>
[15:31:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I mean, no worries about this merge in particular : P
[15:31:24 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> lol. ok
[18:29:11 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> is it possible to change the inline edit wrapper from an anchor to a span?
[18:32:48 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi jdlich - as far as I'm aware, the wrapper is already a span
[18:32:53 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Perhaps you mean changing it to an anchor?
[18:33:31 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> In general it is easy to take care of this process by overriding the "displayModeRenderer" option
[18:36:40 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> this is what it appears to be generating
[18:36:41 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> http://pastie.org/3842258
[18:36:58 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> one sec though, I'll check out that displayModeRendered option…
[18:37:07 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> renderer*
[18:53:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Oh, I see
[18:53:45 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> You mean the buttons, rather than the display mode wrapper
[18:54:33 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, that is also controlled by code inside the displayModeRenderer
[18:54:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> In this case, you can write a replacement for the function fluid.inlineEdit.setupTextEditButton
[18:55:26 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Unfortunately this is one of our older components, so you will need to cut and paste a little code to enable the reconfiguration
[18:55:35 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> jdlich
[19:03:13 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> back
[19:04:47 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> here's the script I'm working with: https://gist.github.com/2474817
[19:05:34 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> is it a simple fix?
[19:05:56 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> can you fork that gist and copy it in there?
[19:46:20 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> I found the function
[19:46:34 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> and adjusting the function is simple enough
[19:46:48 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> I just am not sure where to put it to properly override it
[19:47:46 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> I put it at the top of the script
[19:47:47 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> https://gist.github.com/2474817
[19:48:17 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> do you know what href="#_" is all about?
[19:48:24 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> (in the original function)
[19:49:04 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> I've never seen the underscore used like that
[19:49:20 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> Bosmon:
[20:12:35 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> I got it…
[20:12:44 CDT(-0500)] <jdlich> Bosmon: thanks for your help