fluid-work IRC Logs-2012-04-16

[09:22:29 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: can you send me the IDI designs that you'd sent to Jutta?

[09:22:43 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> preferably with the likely winner mentioned?

[09:24:08 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: No clear winner--we're going to combine a few of the things she liked into one.

[09:24:50 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: Forwarded.

[09:25:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx!

[09:41:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/IDI+website+mockups

[09:42:09 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks anastasiac

[09:52:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: Are you doing Floe planning right now?

[09:52:26 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yep

[09:52:34 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> did you want to join?

[09:52:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have a meeting in eight minutes

[09:53:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking about one other thing I'd like to add to our Floe roadmap

[09:53:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and it's not entirely trivial and it would be great to get it done sooner rather than later

[09:53:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> eek

[09:53:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So, I'd ideally like to be able to tie together Floe and the GPII in some meaningful way

[09:53:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In particular, I'd like to make sure that the GPII is not only focused on personalizing the desktop

[09:54:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and that Floe doesn't just float in isolation, in terms of how Learner Options works

[09:54:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So what I was thinking we might want to consider is how Learner Options and the authoring tool might integrate with a user's one set of user preferences

[09:54:37 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: this sounds like what Bosmon has been thinking about

[09:54:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In other words, integrating the not-yet-quite-established GPII preferences server with the authoring tool

[09:55:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Ideally, I'd loves how something like this at the WSIS meeting in a month:

[09:55:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> With a single preferences profile, a user can sit down at a Windows and Linux desktop and get the AT they need configured how they like it

[09:56:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> When the log into the authoring tool, Learner Options similarly adapts the web page's display to their preferences

[09:56:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Does something like that make some sense to everyone?

[09:56:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yeah - it makes sense

[09:57:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> do you think yura could work on that?

[09:57:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Yes, of course

[09:58:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> He knows the preferences server quite well, having written what we've got of it

[09:58:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think it should be relatively straightforward, but would have to happen largely on the server side, I think

[09:58:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cool - our current plan is to work on getting Learner Options polished enough for the staging site next week

[09:58:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that's awesome

[09:58:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The preferences server is a basic RESTful sort of interface

[09:58:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You'd have to do some transformation between models, I imagine

[09:58:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or a bit of packaging

[09:59:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> users are only identified by an anonymous token

[09:59:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so we'd need some means, be it OAuth or something simpler, to connect up the Authoring Tool and its notion of user with the Preferences Server

[10:00:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> In mid-May in Geneva there will be a demo where we show some of our work off, including Floe and the Authoring Tool

[10:00:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm awfully keen to demonstrate that the GPII is about ubiquitous infrastructure, not just assistive technology and the desktop

[10:00:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so this would go a long way to aid in that message

[11:06:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli1> michelled: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4697

[12:37:05 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac, alexn, cindyli1: shall we continue?

[12:37:16 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> on my way

[12:37:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli1> yes, michelled

[14:00:48 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yura, ayt?

[14:31:16 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: hi

[14:44:56 CDT(-0500)] <alexn> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/User+interface+options%2C+Infusion+1.4%2C+draft+1+mockups

[14:45:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx alexn

[15:24:04 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, I'll send you an email with links to the github repos for IDI site stuff

[15:24:18 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks, anastasiac

[15:27:55 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> hey yura

[15:30:05 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: sorry in the meeting with Patrick

[15:30:11 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yura, ok, np

[15:31:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> How're things going, kasper

[15:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yura: i've implemented (or attempted to implement) the gsettings launch handler

[15:52:16 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> which basically just throws a layer on top of the gsettings bridge/settingshandler

[15:52:19 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> https://github.com/kaspermarkus/linux

[15:52:33 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> kasper - how's the testing stuff going?

[15:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> yura, I've even gone as far as to write a test for it - which is where things went wrong

[15:53:31 CDT(-0500)] <yura> kasper: so what exactly is going wrong ?

[15:53:32 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon: not too much has happened - did the pull request a little while back, that I think colin was planning on reviewing.. not sure he ever got to it

[15:53:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Hi, which one is that, kasper?

[15:53:49 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> it contained your node-jqunit stuff and my repaired test

[15:53:58 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> lemme see if i can find it

[15:54:03 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> cool, I can take a look at that if colinclark doesn't

[15:54:50 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> https://github.com/GPII/universal/pull/13

[15:54:54 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon, ^

[15:55:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I haven't taken a look at it yet, no

[15:55:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Please go ahead if you'd like

[15:55:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Cool, I will

[15:55:37 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks, Bosmon

[15:55:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I appreciate it

[15:55:39 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> sgithens said he was keen to see the testing stuff in trunk

[15:56:04 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon, I started writing more integration tests as well, but was unsure whether it was worth it considering you and yura had plans to do a facelift of the flowmanager

[15:56:19 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Yes, I will be blasting it a lot this evening

[15:56:30 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Since our current approach to settings and launch is unworkable

[15:56:51 CDT(-0500)] <yura> Bosmon: what did you have in mind?

[15:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> We need to invert the payload structure so that "start" and "stop" appear at top level

[15:57:13 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon: ah, so perhaps I should hold back on finishing up the gsettings launch handler as well then

[15:57:23 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And can consist of an arbitrary sequence of activities including "settings" and "launch"

[15:57:32 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> Bosmon: I was just about to snatch yura to help me with it

[15:57:42 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> but sounds like I should wait a bit

[15:57:56 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Probably best - although the settings API itself should stay the same

[15:58:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It is just how we orchestrate it

[15:58:24 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> colinclark: should we try to find a time to meet tomorrow – I'd like to talk through the WSIS plan with you

[15:58:34 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Which should resolve issues like i) that our launch handler is currently commented out and ii) that Windows needs a custom "stop" handler for many tasks

[16:01:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> kasper: Yes, we definitely need to talk about WSIS

[16:02:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like I've only got two meetings

[16:03:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Rob Sinclair at 1 pm and the weekly GPII meeting at 4 pm, EDT

[16:04:26 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> cool, same here

[16:04:38 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> (though I thought the AfA meeting was tomorrow as well)

[16:05:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> oh yes

[16:05:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> the early morning one

[16:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> There it is, so far up in the calendar where I never bother to look

[16:05:43 CDT(-0500)] <kasper> haha