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fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-10-11

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[08:02:23 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: there is a comment battle in the Mind Touch wiki page. http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Mindtouch+Pros+and+Cons?focusedCommentId=27497872#comment-27497872

[08:02:47 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, yes, Justin_o drew my attention to that this morning. Interesting...

[08:02:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> not sure what to do with something like that...

[08:04:22 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anstasiac: perhaps this is a good opportunity for us to teach some peace, love, collaboration, and the Fluidic Way. (smile)

[08:04:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> (smile)

[08:05:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> jhung, Justin_o: I also notice that someone attached some interesting labels to the page - I didn't add them

[08:05:24 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i didn't see that

[08:05:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: ah, those are interesting

[08:06:08 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> probably what I should do is respond to the thread elaborating on the actual content of the page a bit

[08:06:22 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> interestingly, I received an email from a Mindtouch account manager on Friday

[08:06:34 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> anastasiac: constructive discussion is welcome.

[08:07:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: that sounds like a good plan

[08:30:48 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o unit test failing for http://build.fluidproject.org/infusion/tests/component-tests/uiOptions/html/FullPreviewUIOptions-test.html on FF6

[08:31:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli ^

[08:31:46 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: ah, i will have a look

[08:31:47 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks

[08:32:31 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: which platform? windows or mac?

[08:37:06 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_:

[08:37:56 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> tried with windows ff6, passed. my mac ff auto upgraded itself to 7. trying to downgrade to test

[08:43:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli happened for my on both mac and win xp

[08:43:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: interesting. passes on my win xp. trying with mac

[08:44:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli yr win xp is ff6?

[08:45:20 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, heidi_, just tried with mac ff6, passed

[08:45:29 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> interesting

[08:46:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli mac 10.6 - not sure if that matters. it's the test #2 "ToC links created"

[08:47:12 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, heidi_, i will take a dip into the code anyway

[08:47:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli i wonder why it doesn't fail for you on the same systems tho - yr using that build link?

[08:47:46 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: btw, my mac is 10.7

[08:47:53 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, used the build link

[08:50:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: can you try running the same test from your local infusion

[08:50:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli sure, one sec

[08:51:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o are you able to test on yours?

[08:51:13 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: might be a timing issue. the creation of TOC currently waits 200 seconds for the creation to complete

[08:51:23 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ah

[08:53:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli it fails locally as well

[08:53:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> perhaps because my computer is slower?

[08:53:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> no... not sure

[08:54:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli i'll make a jira

[08:54:11 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> sure, heidi_

[08:55:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> can you help to try this - open src/webapp/tests/component-tests/uiOptions/js/FullPreviewUIOptionsTests.js

[08:55:47 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: line 54, adjust 200 to 500

[08:55:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> then run the test again

[08:55:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ok

[08:57:22 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli that fixes it

[08:57:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool, so it's just the test

[08:57:49 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes i think, heidi_

[08:58:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli it shouldn't happen that fast in actual use? timing won't be an issue?

[08:59:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: the same issue should never happen with the actual use, as i understand

[09:00:02 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> the unit tests are different since we test different scenarios with different UIO settings

[09:00:37 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> to avoid the each setting interferes each other, we currently use the timeout strategy to ensure the previous unit test complete, before starting the next

[09:01:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> gotcha thanks cindyli - michelled Justin_o should we submit a patch for this?

[09:01:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> FLUID-4513

[09:14:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: sorry, I had joined the coffee walk..

[09:14:18 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> np

[09:14:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: just finished reviewing the channel

[09:16:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: probably not something that needs to be addressed for this release. i think the real fix, which I've commented on the jira, will be to remove the dependence on the setTimeout

[09:18:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o okee doke

[09:19:04 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_, cindyli: thanks for spotting the issue and the cause

[09:19:17 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np, Justin_o

[09:42:13 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, can I double-check the status of the release? Are we in testing mode? testing is open?

[09:42:20 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> or are we waiting on a blocker?

[09:43:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: as far as I know we are in testing mode, with only a change to the read me needed (which shouldn't affect testing)

[09:43:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks Justin_o

[09:58:55 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, I'm double-checking the third-party version numbers. Can you confirm that the reset and base files are based on v2.5.2 of YUI's stuff? YUI is up to v2.9. Have we upgraded our stuff since version 2.5.2?

[10:00:03 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> hmm i think that'd be a Justin_o question

[10:00:10 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but it sounds right that we might be a bit behind

[10:00:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_, anastasiac: yes we didn't upgrade the YUI stuff

[10:01:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it should still be the same version

[10:01:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok, thanks Justin_o, so we're still based on 2.5.2.

[10:01:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: yes, should be

[10:02:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i was thinking of upgrading to the new YUI 3 stuff, but held back

[10:03:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I notice that in our licence and version info, we specifically mention two of the jQuery plugins (ariaTabs and tooltip) but we don't mention the others (bgiframe, scrollTo). Should we be adding them?

[10:04:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: yes, I think we should. is there something that makes them different from the others? if the plugins are part of query UI then I don't think they should be mentioned individually

[10:05:23 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I'm still checking, but they don't seem "different" than the other plugins - we store them in the plugins folder, for one

[10:11:35 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: turning on TOC on full w/o (also with) preview adds an blank div at the top of the page which pushes the actual content down, i scanned thru the jira, didn't find a report about this. is this a known issue?

[10:11:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> confirmed with ie6, 7, firefox

[10:12:36 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> haven't tried the others but likely this happens across all the browsers

[10:12:59 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cindyli i think anastasia filed a jira for that

[10:13:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac

[10:13:12 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ah, cool

[10:13:19 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks, heidi_

[10:13:24 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli, yes, there is a jura for that

[10:13:30 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> let me find the number

[10:13:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks

[10:14:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> cindyli: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4496 Feel free to update the environment, if appropriate

[10:14:47 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> cool. thx, anastasiac

[10:18:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've submitted a pull request for the third-party version numbers: https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/186

[10:18:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thanks anastasiac

[10:28:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> One other question about the release notes

[10:28:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> for Justin_o

[10:28:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Are our browser versions listed there still correct?

[10:29:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Particularly given the newly dynamic nature of Firefox upgrades?

[10:29:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: good question.. not sure.. i'll take a look

[10:29:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/blob/master/ReleaseNotes.txt

[10:29:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> fluid-everyone: we are having trouble with connect - is anyone else?

[10:29:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yep

[10:29:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> what's the yorku url?

[10:29:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Looks like it's slow to load for me, too

[10:29:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> http://connect.yorku.ca/fluidwork

[10:30:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: So it doesn't look completely correct, it should match this http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Browser+Support+Chart

[10:31:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> anastasiac: Do you mind modifying your pull request to reflect our browser support chart? ^

[10:31:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> I didn't want to switch to FF 7 as most of our testing had been completed before it was released, and have asked people to try to keep testing with FF 6. I think it's nice to show what we tested against

[10:39:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> My audio was dismal at standup

[10:40:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> michelled: I completely missed your update about the release

[10:40:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I'm thinking we should move our browser support for 1.4 to "Firefox latest" instead of specifying a version number

[10:40:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it seems likely that we didn't even ubiquitously cover FF6, given that an update was issued midstream

[10:40:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and it seems likely that no one cares, even if we did

[10:41:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> given that 7 is here and 8 is just around the corner

[10:41:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What do you think?

[10:45:14 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: all I said was that I was going to wait for the browser support updates before reviewing the changes to the release notes

[10:45:21 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> and that I would be testing UIO today

[10:45:36 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: I think you're right about FF support

[10:45:51 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> interestingly it means that we might never know what version we've tested with though

[10:46:28 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I think we mostly tested with FF6 this time because at least some people downloaded FF6 after their browser updated to 7

[10:48:18 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I think it would be worth mentioning in the release notes what version/versions we tested against

[10:50:47 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i think people have been trying to test with FF 6

[10:51:16 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but i understand what you mean, since it may have crept up on them.. although since most of our testing has been in VMs i think it's been easier to manage

[10:51:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Seems like it was probably quite a bit of work

[10:53:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll leave it up to you to make the call, Justin_o

[10:55:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: how about i ask people here if they know what they tested under, better than me guessing (smile)

[10:55:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> seems reasonable to me (smile)

[10:56:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: when you were testing for the Infusion 1.4 release.. did you use FF 6 or FF 7.. or some mixture of them?

[10:58:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, I've been focusing on IE testing, only checking FF to see if a problem is cross-browser. In those cases, I double-checked using 6 on windows and 7 on mac.

[10:58:33 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: a mixture for me. using ff7 most of time. Only use ff6 for testing

[10:59:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> I only did one FF task and I used FF6

[11:14:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, michelled, I'll push an update to my pull request to update the browser support chart one we decide which version of FF to support (i.e. 6 or "latest")

[11:21:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: anyone not use FF 6 when they did Firefox testing?

[11:23:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_, jameswy, jhung, yura ^^

[11:24:12 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Justin_o: I used whatever the VM you gave me had, (smile)

[11:24:38 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i use ff6

[11:24:59 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Justin_o: Is there any way not to use FF7 though? Doesn't it update automagically?

[11:25:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jameswy: it does, but only on restart of the FF so if you didn't restart it after it upgraded you'd still be on ff 6

[11:43:28 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o I've been using FF6

[11:46:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> fluid-everyone: thanks for letting me know

[11:47:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, anastasiac: i think we're okay to keep it at FF 6

[11:47:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> and for next release we can revise to be latest version

[11:59:40 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've updated https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/186 with the fix to the browser support chart.

[12:25:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jhung and Justin_o: I just chatted with Toja on the phone about our next Decapod Nigeria trip

[12:25:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The good news is that there's no big news (smile)

[12:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> She's booked your flight, which I'm sure you already know

[12:25:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Benedict's schedule has changed a bit, so they're likely flipping around the order of university visits

[12:25:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> so she hasn't yet booked local travel

[12:26:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> We're really just waiting on the equipment at this point

[12:26:10 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> okay.

[12:26:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Next step for us is to compile a list of everything, values, etc. for Nigerian customs

[12:26:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> as well as getting a shipping estimate

[12:26:24 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll talk to Pat and Iris about that

[12:26:34 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> colinclark: I will start that tomorrow when I'm in.

[12:26:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> great

[12:27:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o ak, my FF just updated to 7 - how do i go back?

[12:28:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: unfortunately i don't think you can

[12:29:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o oh shoot

[12:32:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: yah.. that was sort of colinclark was getting at i think (smile)

[12:33:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o bummer! i'll have to put a FF6 task back on the shelf

[12:34:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> if you are in a vm you can possible revert if you had a snapshot

[12:34:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> otherwise you're stuck

[12:41:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o i found my old 6.0.2. install exe... i wonder if that would do it

[12:43:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_: oh great, that should work

[12:44:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> Justin_o yeah that did it

[12:45:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> excellent

[12:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> at least you have a means to go back now.. you should hang on to that install file :0

[12:45:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> (smile)

[12:55:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> will do!

[13:00:27 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Don't forget that there is always "oldversion.com"

[13:00:29 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> http://www.oldversion.com/Mozilla-Firefox.html

[13:00:40 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> One of my very favorite internet sites....

[13:04:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: it's too bad they don't have versions for mac..

[13:05:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've update the pull request to reflect the info on the wiki http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Browser+Support+Chart

[13:06:04 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx anastasiac

[13:12:44 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: posted the 0.5 Import wireframe here http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Decapod+0.5+Wireframes

[13:13:48 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks

[13:13:50 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: any reason we don't state what version of chill we are using?

[13:14:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> chili

[13:14:46 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, I missed that one, michelled, sorry

[13:14:53 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> we probably should - it's 2.2

[13:14:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: just checking are these wireframes for the More Acceptable Product?

[13:15:10 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> np anastasiac - can you add it?

[13:15:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> sure

[13:16:02 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: ah. It's mixed up. Give me a sec to organize the images.

[13:16:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, done

[13:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx (smile)

[13:16:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks

[13:18:52 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung, colinclark: do you think we should switch to HTML5 for Decapod… I would prefer to switch to that

[13:19:47 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: Yeah! I'm all for that.

[13:24:06 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: I've updated the page.

[13:24:34 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> The more acceptable wireframes need to be done, but there should be enough to get started on for the MVP.

[13:27:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: thanks (smile)

[13:28:24 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o: I'll continue to fill in the gaps, but let me know if you need anything right away.

[13:29:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: okay, will do

[13:29:49 CDT(-0500)] <greggy1> Justin_o: https://github.com/gregrgay/mediawiki-uioptions-theme

[13:34:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it seems that mark pilgrim has disappeared, anyone know of his whereabouts? http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2011/10/04/searching-for-mark-pilgrim/

[13:35:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> greggy1: thanks… we still need to work on our "Studio" space… but this should definitely go in there when it's up..

[13:43:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: turning on "make inputs larger" on the full page demos, including with and without preview, makes the buttons larger. However, once the page gets refreshed, the enlarged buttons are back to normal size even though "make input larger" setting is still marked on.

[13:43:25 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> is this a known issue?

[13:43:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: We're free to use any and all awesome stuff supported by Decapod's A-Grade browser list

[13:43:49 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which, remarkably, is Firefox Latest (wink)

[13:43:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Go for it

[13:44:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> no luck from my jira search, Justin_o

[13:45:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: how convenient (smile)

[13:45:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> (smile)

[13:46:24 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: not that I'm aware of

[13:46:52 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: ok, i will create the jira

[13:48:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> cindyli: thanks

[13:48:36 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> np

[13:49:02 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled: do you have any opinions on if cindyli's finding should be a blocker

[13:49:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'm a bit on the fence at the moment

[13:55:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> cindyli: are the buttons larger on the main site if you click the 'go back' link?

[13:55:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> yes, michelled

[13:56:07 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> fat panel seems fine, only the full page demos, michelled

[13:56:28 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: I think it's not a blocker for 1.4

[13:56:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> greggy1: i've added a link to your theme on our current contributor gallery page

[13:56:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Fluid+Contributor+Gallery

[13:56:43 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> but it should probably be critical for 1.5

[13:56:50 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> michelled, Justin_o, the new jira for this issue - http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4516

[13:56:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> greggy1: if you have a chance could you update it with the same information that the others have

[13:56:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> thanks

[14:09:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac i think you had a jira about entering letters/numbers into the slider text boxes ?

[14:09:59 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, yes, I did - let me dig it up

[14:10:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> k cool

[14:11:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> there were two, heidi_: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4501 and http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4511

[14:11:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks anastasiac

[14:11:48 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> np

[14:36:10 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, I've searched JIRA and not found mention of this, so I'm double-checking: Is it a known issue that the sakai UIO demo doesn't look quite right in the high-contrast themes? tabs are wrong, and widget borders seem wrong

[14:37:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> anastasiac: I think it's known

[14:37:23 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Justin_o: do you know if there is a JIRA for it or should anastasiac file one?

[14:38:17 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, found it michelled and Justin_o. It doesn't include UIO as a component (only Demos) so it wasn't showing up in the UIO filter

[14:38:19 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4454

[14:41:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: probably my fault on that one, sorry about that

[14:42:32 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> np, Justin_o - I actually think you're right: I suspect it's not a UIO bug, but rather a bug either in the demo itself, or in FSS

[14:42:35 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> in the themes

[14:43:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: probably has to do with the background images or something

[14:43:41 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> I've added FSS and UIO as components to the issue, just in case

[14:46:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> michelled, heidi_, "make inputs larger" is supposed to affect buttons, right? it should make the buttons larger?

[14:46:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac yep should make buttons larger

[14:46:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Justin_o - the Mac versions are here http://www.oldversion.com/macintosh/Firefox.html

[14:46:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> it doesn't make FSS buttons larger - the "emphasize links" setting does, since they're technically links, even though they look like buttons

[14:47:18 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> probably a known issue?

[14:47:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac ah, it should change FSS buttons as well for sure

[14:47:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> not sure if there's a jira

[14:48:37 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm. that's a sticky situation, heidi_. FSS buttons are implemented as links… we'd have to somehow force UIO to NOT enlarge them with other links, but enlarge them with inputs instead… I wonder how big an issue this is, michelled?

[14:49:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac it could search for the fss button class as a selector

[14:54:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> we had a brief in person conversation about the issue and decided it's not a blocker for 1.4

[14:56:12 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> instead it opens up a few places we should consider - whether there should really be a single option that encompasses links and inputs, whether FSS buttons should actually be buttons etc

[15:03:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jhung: do you have the graphical assets for these wireframes somewhere?

[15:03:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: thanks… great find

[15:11:28 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jhung: are you still running the uploader test you have in your task list?

[15:22:49 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> michelled: No. I forgot to check that off. It is done.

[15:23:01 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> i'll mark it off now.

[15:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx jhung

[15:40:23 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: I'm looking at the current build, and the UIO demo still has improper linespacing. If you turn on one of the contrast themes, you can see the text being cut off at the bottom. Is this a known issue?

[15:41:11 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jameswy: fat panel?

[15:41:36 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: Doesn't matter which configuration--even in its default state the line height issue is present.

[15:41:48 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> i.e., before I even enter a UIO configuration

[15:42:11 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> But the problem is more clear when I increase text size and turn on a contrast theme.

[15:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jameswy: where do u see "the text being cut off at the bottom"?

[15:43:20 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> It's most obvious when you do the following:

[15:43:46 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> 1. Increase text size to maximum. 2. Turn on a contrast theme. 3. See text under section 1 of "some helpful tips"

[15:44:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ah, i see what u mean, jameswy

[15:45:28 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: Thoughts on what the problem is/what we can do?

[15:46:09 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jameswy: i'm looking into the css stack, trying to figure out what's the cause

[15:54:21 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> jameswy: seems the "line-height" set on <body> is somehow not inherited by this paragraph. not sure why yet

[15:54:41 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> heidi_: any thoughts? ^

[15:55:26 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli: Do you think we should reopen the line height JIRA, or is this a separate issue I should file?

[15:55:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jameswy cindyli known issue yeah... looking for jira

[15:55:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> could prob add to it

[15:55:41 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> one sec

[15:55:44 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_: Fantastic, thanks.

[15:56:22 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jameswy k maybe it's a little different, but maybe not?: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4494

[15:56:25 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> feel free to edit

[15:57:39 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_: Think it's a different issue, with a similar problem--4494 is with what happens when the text size extends beyond the natural line height; this issue is that the natural line height is broken to begin with

[15:58:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jameswy okay cool maybe just set this one as related

[15:58:11 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_: Sounds good.

[16:02:05 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_: Erm, I don't understand the new JIRA interface. How do I relate two issues to each other?

[16:02:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jameswy i think after you create the issue go to more actions->link

[16:03:12 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> heidi_: Super, thanks.

[16:03:27 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> cindyli, heidi_, michelled: I've filed the line-height bug under http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4519

[16:03:58 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> thanks, jameswy