fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-08-23

[09:34:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi_, Bosmon, michelled, fluid-everyone: will you have time to talk about UIO issues this afternoon
[09:34:21 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yep
[09:52:31 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sounds good Justin_o
[10:24:39 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> huslage: do you have time today to talk about creating an installer for Decapod?
[10:25:33 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yeah jhung. i need to run to the apple store (again) to get my phone fixed at 1:30, but I'm free before that
[10:26:15 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> sure, we can chat in the channel. I'm creating a wiki page that I hope will give some context / requirements.
[10:27:15 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> awesome
[10:50:36 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> justin_o, jameswy: Can either of you think of anything else to add to a Decapod installer? http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Decapod+Installer+Notes
[11:02:51 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> jhung: does it only need to run on dpkg-based machines?
[11:03:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> huslage, jhung: jameswy and I were just chatting about a live cd/usb version
[11:03:48 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> but i think more or less the page has it all covered
[11:03:50 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> we can do that too
[11:03:56 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> huslage: we're fairly open at this point in terms of how we implement this.
[11:03:58 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> but let's get the process down first (smile)
[11:04:00 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> ok
[11:04:50 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> do the scripts fail?
[11:04:56 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> or are they just brittle?
[11:05:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> the install script is fine, but sometimes the download process misses files (especially ocropus files).
[11:05:46 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> ok.
[11:06:02 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> so i'm thinking we need to make a bunch of packages that include all the dependencies
[11:06:22 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> well a bunch of packages and then a metapackage to install the whole thing
[11:06:31 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> a meatpkg
[11:07:09 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> That's similar to how it's happening right now, but it's just not reliable or clean.
[11:07:20 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> yeah
[11:07:22 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i'm looking
[11:07:24 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> reading
[11:07:31 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i can knock this out i think
[11:07:39 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> i need to go eat something and i'll be back after my apple store trek.
[11:08:12 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> Sure. I'll be willing to be guinea pig on this.
[11:08:27 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> cool
[12:23:26 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: you are here?
[12:23:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> just read your email
[12:23:41 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana hya
[12:24:16 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> what version of FF did you use?
[12:24:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana 6
[12:24:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho ok
[12:24:31 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> that's odd
[12:24:43 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause I'm using 6 too and the scrubber is working
[12:24:43 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> what is?
[12:24:56 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana it moves, but the time doesn't change
[12:25:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana refresh, tab to scrubber, use arrow to move
[12:25:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[12:25:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> then try to play after that
[12:26:10 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho yes just found out
[12:26:37 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> well it updates when you play but not when you don't play I see
[12:26:39 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> that's odd
[12:26:55 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> don't think it did it on other browser did it?
[12:27:51 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it works on other browsers gonna have to do more investigating (smile)
[12:28:44 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> for the spacebar/return thing
[12:28:50 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it's the same
[12:28:59 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> fluid infusion is made that way: "Makes all matched elements activatable with the Spacebar and Enter keys. A handler function may be provided to trigger custom behaviour."
[12:29:06 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Keyboard+Accessibility+Plugin+API
[12:29:39 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: for the fullscreen focus thing I totally forgot about it sorry (smile)
[12:31:25 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: why should the focus for the subtitle be on the selected one?
[12:31:51 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> if somebody opens the subtitle box it's more likely that it is to change them no?
[12:41:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana if spacebar/enter both work, there are some probs then... spacebar seems to flash some fucntions on/off quickl
[12:41:27 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> y
[12:41:40 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ho?
[12:41:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana i expected the hightlighted subtitle to be the chosen one, it was weird to see both hightlighted
[12:42:28 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: hmm ok
[12:42:45 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> well I can still do it maybe
[12:43:11 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana maybe it's just a case of the focus style being different than the selected? not a big issue
[12:43:20 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'm going to try with voice over now
[12:44:18 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> yes the focus and selected are very close
[12:44:32 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> only the colour of the text changes
[12:44:59 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> I've changed the help thing
[12:45:04 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> so it's a bit better
[12:45:29 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: and you are right about those spacebar that just flashes options
[12:45:40 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it's the case with the checkboxes
[12:46:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: finally the shortcuts work only if the video is selected it is explained in the help
[12:47:08 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause obvsly you can't have a spacebar that does play but also activates the button you are focusing on
[12:47:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana how do i select it with keyboard
[12:47:27 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it's the focus in the begining
[12:47:38 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> and it's also the first thing
[12:47:43 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> before the scrubber
[12:48:31 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> it's true there nothing to show you've selected the video on FF
[12:48:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i'm having trouble loading http://royalgiz.fr/videoplayer/html/VideoPlayer.html on safari - okay for you?
[12:50:24 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> try again maybe I was changing a file
[12:52:07 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: is it the video that doesn't load at yours too?
[12:54:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana loading now. also i've selected vid and short-cuts work
[12:54:44 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> ok
[12:58:15 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> heidi_: do you know is there a way with fluid to check if an element is focused?
[12:59:46 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac ^ ?
[13:00:02 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> hm
[13:01:21 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> cause you can obvsly use css selectors
[13:01:33 CDT(-0500)] <lahabana> but you loose the whole point of that.locate...
[13:32:00 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> anyone feel the earthquake up there?
[13:32:05 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> probably not
[13:32:16 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/06/nodejs-coming-to-windows-azure-with-official-microsoft-support.ars
[14:28:57 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Bosmon: hello - did you see my comment on your pull request?
[14:48:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> lahabana how do i select 'german' w keyboard?
[14:49:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> also, look into aria-live for the dynamic help text