fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-07-04

[07:38:13 CDT(-0500)] <huslage> morning
[09:28:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> good morning heidi_ - did you see that jhung did another push to 4300?
[09:29:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> michelled yep it's on my list for today
[09:29:35 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx (smile)
[09:30:00 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> heidi_: Let me know if there's anything else.
[09:30:14 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> mlam sorry what was the jira # again for your live preview stuff that Bosmon2's reviewing?
[09:30:24 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> FLUID-4307
[09:30:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> thanks
[09:30:31 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np
[09:32:32 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: do you know if Bosmon2 looked at it yet?
[09:33:06 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: I don't think so
[09:34:00 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: I saw that you opened a pull request for 4308 - who do you think should review it?
[09:34:31 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: anyone really. it's a small fix to render the file upload limit in the status bar of the Uploader
[09:34:44 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> ok, sounds good
[09:35:08 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> another small fix to change the file upload limit defaults back to 0 (infinite) was in as well
[09:37:25 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> mlam: what are you working on now?
[09:37:44 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> just about to create another JIRA to fix a grammar mistake in the Uploader's error handling
[09:37:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> michelled do you know how to reset a single file to head?
[09:38:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> git reset (path) HEAD doesn't seem to work
[09:38:43 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> heidi_: git co filename
[09:39:15 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> michelled "co is not a git command"
[09:39:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> short for something?
[09:39:27 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> heidi_ checkout
[09:39:37 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> duh, thanks!
[09:42:35 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> michelled: I'm going to have to go back and read the channel logs from last weds. i think colinclark and heidi_ had a small discussion about that one
[09:42:46 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> and maybe I've misinterpreted the extent of that error
[09:42:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> mlam it happens when you've reached the max # uploads
[09:43:10 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> you can still click/open dialog for "add more" even tho it appears disabled/should be disabled
[09:43:26 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> heidi_: so when the max up loads are reached, the "add more" should be disabled for good?
[09:43:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yes you shouldn't be able to add any more files, is my understanding
[09:43:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> right now it's just visually disabled
[09:44:43 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok
[09:45:16 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> so michelled, heidi_, it still sounds like it's a critical, not a blocker, right? if i can get to it, then we fix it, if not, leave it?
[09:45:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> mlam not sure, it seems very much like a 'bug'
[09:45:48 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and i think colinclark was concerned it could be flagging some deeper issue
[09:45:52 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: maybe you can weigh in on whether it's a blocker or critical?
[09:46:17 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: mlam and heidi_ describe the problem starting at 10:42
[09:47:57 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> fluid-everyone: i am stepping out now. I will be back after the appointment. Here are my updates since I don't think I can make it back before standup: I am working on FLUID-4209, i had paired with Justin_o to finalize the changes on ToC regarding the extra level issue. I will add some more testcases to the code we refractored and issue a pull request after.
[09:48:03 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled, heidi_, mlam: So, clarification--it looks disabled but, in fact, you can still click on it?
[09:48:13 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> jameswy right
[09:49:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i guess it also depends, when you choose more files and hit okay - does the warning msg update to include those? mlam
[09:49:21 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> heidi_: yes it does
[09:49:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> that's good at least
[09:50:12 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> I'd mark it as a blocker, especially if the user can keyboard access it (i.e., if, to the screen reader, it doesn't appear disabled at all)
[09:51:18 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok
[09:59:59 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled, Bosmon2: Would both of you have time to chat today about the TAB demo?
[10:14:28 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: I'd love to talk about the demo - I'm guess Bosmon2 isn't up yet
[10:17:00 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: If the four of us (you, me, colinclark, Bosmon2) can meet later in the afternoon, that'd be great. I have mockups of the demo ready, and I'm just filling in some of the details of how it works.
[10:17:25 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> perfect! I'd like to get started working on it today anyway
[10:18:43 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: Nice. If you want to take a sneak peek, you can find the wiki page I'm working on here: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Content+simplification+conceptualization
[10:18:56 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> thx
[10:22:47 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: I love the simplicity spectrum - what a great idea
[10:27:55 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> jameswy: about the Uploader issue we spoke about earlier....
[10:28:27 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> do you think it's better we disable the "add more" button or completely remove it so that they can't even click on anything?
[10:29:30 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> mlam: Disable. They should still know it's an option, just one that's not currently available.
[10:29:37 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok
[10:52:40 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> michelled, justin_o, jameswy: reminder we have a Decapod meeting at 12pm. Can someone at the office initiate the call?
[10:53:35 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> justin_o's on vacation today and tomorrow.
[10:53:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jhung: justin is away today and I wasn't going to be at the meeting - do you require someone in the office to initiate?
[10:54:18 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> michelled: not required, the extra bandwidth helps though. (smile)
[10:54:32 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> jameswy: how is your upstream?
[10:55:05 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> jhung: I've been having 'net connection problems all weekend (sad)
[10:55:21 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> lol
[10:55:29 CDT(-0500)] <jhung> okay. I'll try on my end then. (tongue)
[12:06:50 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> colinclark, michelled, Bosmon2: Do you have time this afternoon to chat about the TAB demo? Designs are up on the wiki, some verbiage to follow (http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Content+simplification+conceptualization)
[12:07:03 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> jameswy: totes
[12:07:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I would love to grab a bit of lunch
[12:07:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'm not sure if Bosmon2 has surfaced
[12:07:27 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> He hasn't yet (smile)
[12:07:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or if he'll celebrate America's independence
[12:07:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 3 pm?
[12:07:48 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> Sure, let's aim for 3 PM. michelled, does that work for you too?
[12:07:55 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> yep, works for me
[12:11:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cool
[12:27:49 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> Yup, I'll be here
[12:27:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> See you then
[12:28:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon2> I'm not sure "celebrate" is quite the right term to apply to America's independence (tongue)
[13:53:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> Bosmon2: are you able to code review 4307 today?
[14:05:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: I've got a 3 pm meeting, and then I'll take a look at FLUID-4308
[14:05:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks for getting that one in
[14:05:35 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, cool
[14:05:35 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np
[14:10:38 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> jameswy: are we meeting on skype?
[14:11:30 CDT(-0500)] <jameswy> michelled: Ah, yes, it's time. Yes, Skype would be good. Can you initiate it? I'm running into 'net problems again. colinclark, Bosmon2, are you ready?
[14:11:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yep
[14:11:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> sure
[14:30:29 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> mlam do you know how to make a FluidAll.js from the current build?
[14:30:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac is there doc for making a Fluid-all file?
[14:31:43 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> heidi_: are you using eclipse?
[14:31:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> mlam no
[14:32:03 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_ the builder makes the file for you (and we have a nightly version of the builder). There are also wiki instructions for using the command line
[14:32:18 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Custom+Infusion+Builds+With+Ant
[14:32:34 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi_, is that what you were looking for?
[14:32:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> anastasiac that's it i think - thanks!
[14:33:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi_: There are two different versions of the Builder running
[14:34:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> one, the stable, production instance
[14:34:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which of course builds stable, production builds
[14:34:11 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> of Infusion 1.3
[14:34:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's this: http://builder.fluidproject.org/
[14:34:22 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The other is the daily build Builder
[14:34:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which builds versions of the latest and greatest Infusion, straight out of the project repo
[14:34:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's this one: http://build.fluidproject.org/infusionBuilder/html/InfusionBuilder.html
[14:35:09 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Probably, unless you're making a very fancy build, you'll never need to run the command line build
[14:35:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which is slightly scary
[14:35:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> aha nice, i can i just d/l fluid-all somehow?
[14:35:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Just make yourself a build of everything
[14:35:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and you'll get a zip file
[14:35:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> with a MyInfusion.js at top level
[14:35:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that'll be everything
[14:35:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> cool, thanks colinclark
[14:35:57 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> no more fluid-all then
[14:36:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> just myinfusion
[14:36:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> For the most part
[14:36:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we still make an InfusionAll.js, I believe, in our release packages
[14:36:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> gotcha
[14:36:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but we're at a point where we actively encourage our users to make their own custom builds with the Builder
[14:36:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> colinclark so right now i have a test page that uses... all of our components
[14:36:54 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think only advanced applications make their own builds with the command line at this point
[14:36:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi_: Ah, yes
[14:37:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> i.e a lot of js files
[14:37:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What's it for, heidi_?
[14:37:38 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> but it won't work unless ppl have a fluid-all, which our repo doesn't have, so i suppose i'll need to include every file... hmm
[14:37:45 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> colinclark testing our components with UIO
[14:37:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Yeah
[14:37:58 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> a bunch of tabs, each tab loads the demo of the component, fat panel at the top
[14:38:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> You'll have to link everything one by one
[14:38:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah. was just curious if it'll work with an 'all' file as well... will play
[14:39:01 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It would, but clearly we wouldn't want a build inside the source tree
[14:39:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> since it would become immediately stale
[14:39:33 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> colinclark yeah was thinking about your run on commit idea that you were thinking about for UIO css files
[14:39:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[14:39:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> and if an all could be made similarly
[14:39:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which we decided would be too brittle
[14:39:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and aren't going to do
[14:39:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> for exactly that reason
[14:39:53 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> ok
[14:39:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> people will forget to make a build
[14:40:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's even more critical with tests
[14:40:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> because it would be really terrible if someone thought it was working
[14:40:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi_> yeah it would have to be automated some magic github way... prob doesn't support
[14:40:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but it was only because they were using an old version of the build
[16:04:50 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> colinclark: I pushed our little trial of using the css parser to my branch
[16:04:56 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome
[16:05:01 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> you now have write access to my repo too (smile)
[16:05:05 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> are we ready to start step #2?
[16:05:11 CDT(-0500)] <michelled> and I've put our todo list onto the JIRA http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4219
[16:05:15 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> awesome