fluid-work IRC Logs-2011-05-11

[09:14:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam, harriswong: guess what came out yesterday..
[09:14:40 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> no...
[09:14:43 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://blog.jquery.com/
[09:15:08 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> wow, they're quick.
[09:15:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> jquery 1.6.1 rc 1 is out.. and the final release is supposed to happen this week
[09:15:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: yes... they're burning through these releases
[09:16:00 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, thanks for the heads up Justin_o
[09:16:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> np
[09:16:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> harriswong: you missed my link
[09:16:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> http://blog.jquery.com/
[09:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> check that out
[09:16:38 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> justin_o sorry my irc here is jumping on and off, mlam just told me about 1.6.1.
[09:17:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> np... so i guess you guys might want to think about switching gears and picking up the 1.6.1 instead of 1.6
[09:17:43 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> i am reading 1.7 changelog
[09:17:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam, harriswong : looks like they've done something to attr
[09:18:38 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, taking a loot
[09:18:40 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> look
[09:19:19 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> mlam: attr and prop backward compatibility issue has been fixed now
[09:19:22 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> mlam: they have a chart to show you when to use attr vs prop
[09:19:39 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> ok, cool
[09:26:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: Seems like we might want to freeze on jQuery 1.6.1 for our Infusion 1.4 release, now that it's nearly ready?
[09:27:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sounds like a good idea
[09:27:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That'll keep us close to the cutting edge, but save mlam and harriswong the pain of more updates when a 1.6.2 release rolls out
[09:28:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes.. makes sense...
[09:28:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok
[09:28:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Do we want to freeze on a version of jQuery UI while we're at it?
[09:28:55 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 1.8.12 or something?
[09:29:15 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i think that should be good
[09:29:19 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Cool
[09:29:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Should I send an email to the list about it, real quick?
[09:29:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure that would be good
[09:29:49 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> thanks
[09:29:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Should it also go to infusion-users?
[09:31:04 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: hmm... i guess it's not necessary... but it might be nice for our users to know what's coming..
[09:31:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ok, I'll include infusion-users
[09:31:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Hey, so I wanted to talk to you about bug parade, Justin_o
[09:31:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: sure
[09:31:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking that we're getting close
[09:31:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. 1.5 weeks left
[09:32:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon is off working on Kettle again, which is a sign that the framework has suitable stabilized...
[09:32:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> assuming yura_ cooperates, that is
[09:32:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Based on our dev meeting last week, it seems to me that everyone is now focused on a concrete set of to-dos before the release
[09:32:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> So do you think maybe Monday is a good day to just kick into Bug Parade?
[09:32:58 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or am I jumping the gun?
[09:34:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but the list of those things is quite concrete, I think
[09:34:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Both heidi and cindyli have been doing such an awesome job tracking to-dos for the community with UI Options
[09:34:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which helps a lot
[09:35:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: Do you have a link handy to the jQuery 1.6 and jQuery UI 1.8.12 branches?
[09:35:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I want to include them in my email
[09:36:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> what would bug parade monday mean for UIO? there is still a lot to do
[09:36:06 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> if possible
[09:36:22 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> pulkit_: how's it going?
[09:36:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> heidi: It's ultimately the King's decision
[09:36:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> but I was thinking that it would mean that we'd have to stick to a defined list of to dos
[09:36:43 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> all of which will need to be in JRA
[09:36:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> JIRA
[09:36:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ah, that's fine then
[09:37:21 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> colinclark: i'll get htem for you
[09:37:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> But as I say, I might be jumping the gun
[09:37:34 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: do you think we should move to pull requests for all bug parade commits?
[09:37:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o cindyli i'll make sure our UIO to-do list each has a JIRA
[09:37:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: That'd be fascinating
[09:37:54 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> great. thx, heidi
[09:38:02 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> What do you think?
[09:38:07 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i guess commits isn't the right term.. i mean all pushes to the project repo during bug parade
[09:38:23 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: it would make sure that we do our code reviews
[09:38:38 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it's not a bad idea
[09:38:42 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> colinclark: jquery 1.6 https://github.com/harriswong/infusion/tree/jkkremer-FLUID-4113, jquery UI 1.8.12 https://github.com/harriswong/infusion/tree/FLUID-4206
[09:38:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> what do others think?
[09:39:08 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> harris has a local branch that hasn't been pushed up into the repo with the combination of both
[09:39:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: you want to talk about it at the dev meeting today?
[09:40:29 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> michelled_: I'm still reading documentation
[09:40:53 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> michelled_: I will try building some small components soon
[09:41:07 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> pulkit_: are you finding the documentation useful?
[09:41:54 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> Yes
[09:42:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark_> Justin_o: Sure, we can chat about it at the dev meeting
[09:42:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark_> thanks for links, mlam
[09:42:54 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> np
[09:43:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: do you have time to do a review of something for me, basically i was hoping that you would be able to take a look at the demo for linearization... it's the heidi and I showed you last week. I've refactored it and moved it from the manual-tests to the fss demos... it's currently in my branch of FLUID-4150
[09:43:25 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> Are there any specific topics in the documentation that I should be focusing on?
[09:43:56 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, certainly - I'll have a look at it this morning
[09:44:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, michelled_: anything else on schedule for the dev meeting.. i think Bosmon wanted to talk a bit about some things from the ui options code review
[09:44:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i'll send a pull request for it... it has both the linearization changes and the new demo for it
[09:44:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> k
[09:44:39 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> pulkit_: I think you should dive into building something small and then you'll likely figure out what you need to learn more about
[09:44:45 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> does that make sense?
[09:44:46 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> Justin_o, Bosmon, is the FluidIoC-test #24 unit test failure on Chrome expected?
[09:44:59 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> Justin_o: I'm trying to catch up - I have nothing for dev meeting
[09:45:00 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> I am facing problems with creating new components.
[09:45:10 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> Yes. I was about to start that step.
[09:45:15 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> pulkit_: what problem are you facing?
[09:45:55 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> The tutorial is still under progress and is not complete
[09:46:33 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> pulkit_: anastasiac is working on those right now - it would be great if you ask her questions
[09:46:46 CDT(-0500)] <michelled_> that way you'll get help and she'll know where to focus on in the docs
[09:47:02 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> okay.
[09:49:37 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> anastasiac: Hi! I was reading the tutorials that you gave me earlier for building new components. I am stuck after reaching this page: http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Creator+Functions.
[09:51:05 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> pulkit_, that page is a bit out of date. We now have 'graded' components, and a newer way of creating components. Have a look at http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/docs/Component+Grades
[09:51:35 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> pulkit_, it's also helpful to look at some of the existing code in Infusion, for example the components themselves, to see how they do things
[09:52:35 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> anastasiac: Which component would be the easiest to start with?
[09:52:39 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> justin_o, bosmon: ^it fails on my IE9, 8(win7) as well.
[09:55:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> pulkit_, that's a good question Some of our components have not yet been updated to use the new "grades", so you'd be better off sticking the ones that have. That would include Progress (a simpler component, probably good to start with), UIOptions and Uploader (more involved, many subcomponents),
[09:56:50 CDT(-0500)] <pulkit_> anastasiac: ok. Thanks.
[09:57:01 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i sent the pull request https://github.com/fluid-project/infusion/pull/42
[09:57:21 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> k
[10:00:48 CDT(-0500)] <care> anastasiac: i received your email with the infusion links. ty.
[10:01:03 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> care, no problem. Let me know if you have any questions
[10:01:18 CDT(-0500)] <care> k
[10:03:15 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, Justin_o: I'm testing the linearization demo, and the tabs aren't working for me at all (FF4 in OSX)
[10:03:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: really
[10:03:38 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> :-/
[10:03:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> intersting.. let me take a look again
[10:03:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> justin_o did you include jquery ui?
[10:04:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. unless it didn't get pushed..
[10:05:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: oh oops.. i think i know what's wrong
[10:05:52 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah, the path to jQuery tabs seems to be wrong
[10:06:38 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i think that path is okay
[10:06:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it's something that only exists in the demo
[10:06:47 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ok
[10:13:59 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i just pushed up a fix
[10:14:07 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> k
[10:14:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i was basically killing the tabs with the renderer
[10:14:14 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> ah
[10:15:58 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, interestingly, the code is much cleaner this way
[10:16:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: yes.. i was able to remove a bunch actually.
[10:17:01 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> exactly
[11:05:20 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: I just merged my branch of your FLUID-4163 fixes into the project repo
[11:05:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I also included fixes to make all the tests run in IE6 except the Uploader backwards compatibility tests
[11:05:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> those will take a bit more work to debug
[11:06:52 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> Ok, cool
[11:10:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I committed some test failure fixes to the project repo for Uploader in IE6...
[11:11:17 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I was thinking, based on harriswong's comment a few days ago about "no tests are failing except the ones that were already failing," that we should make sure the project repo is looking all green and shiny
[11:11:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: yes.. agreed...
[11:11:45 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I have one IE6 failure for the Uploader tests, which I've documented here: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4223
[11:11:48 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I've made it a blocker
[11:12:00 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> after a bit of debugging I'm confused enough that I think I should take a break and get a few more things into the repo
[11:12:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I wonder if we can find someone who has time to run through all our unit tests on our supported platforms and just make sure things are looking good?
[11:13:09 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: I was hoping that something like that could be done before we get to bug parade so that we can add it to our list early
[11:13:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> that would be great
[11:13:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> any suggestions for who might have a spare half hour to do that?
[11:13:36 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> or any volunteers?
[11:14:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> don' t know who has spare time
[11:14:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> hmm
[11:15:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: the other issue is making sure that person has access to all the configurations
[11:15:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ah, right
[11:15:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> we'll have to split up the work
[11:15:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: I think you might want to wield some Kingly powers
[11:16:16 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> And assign each of us with a browser
[11:16:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:16:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> My IE6 VM, for the record, is currently open
[11:16:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:17:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: Remind me of the JIRA number for your fileTypes fixes?
[11:17:40 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> FLUID-3886
[11:18:20 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: okay will do..
[11:18:31 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i guess that's another thing to bring up a the dev meeting
[11:19:31 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, heidi, the linearization demo looks good. The only thing I'd change is: On the "absolute position" tab, add some actual text explaining that column b will NOT linearize the way a regular column will because it is absolutely positioned. Otherwise, the viewer won't know why it's not behaving as other columns to.
[11:20:17 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks, we had talked about that before and i totally forgot about it.. sorry
[11:20:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: any suggestions on what that should say exactly?
[11:21:35 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> just that it doesn't linearize and the jira for that? there is one on the fss roadmap i think for linearizing abs positioned containers
[11:24:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi, anastasiac: how does this sound?
[11:24:03 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Currently the FSS's linearization strategy does not taking into account absolutely positioned elements. (See: FLUID-2396)
[11:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o maybe add that in order to fix it we'll need to specifiy position:static (that's the default right?) for containers only as it can't be applied to everything (ex. sliders break)
[11:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, I'd preface that with something very explicit, like: "In this example, column b will not linearize because it is absolutely positioned."
[11:25:23 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> or i guess we can put that in the jira
[11:25:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes... i think that should go in the jira
[11:27:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac, heidi: is this better
[11:27:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> In this example, Column A and B do not linearize because they are absolutely positioned. Currently the FSS's linearization strategy does not taking into account absolutely positioned elements. (See: FLUID-2396)
[11:27:54 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> sounds good
[11:27:57 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> nice
[11:28:10 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> okay.. i'll quickly make that change and push it up to my fork
[11:32:05 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o do you recall what "Integration tests" was for in the UIO to-do list from dev meeting
[11:32:27 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: that's the thing anastasiac is working on
[11:32:36 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ah, the previews
[11:32:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> thanks
[11:32:41 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> it's a place where we can get the individual branches merged together ahead of time
[11:32:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o what about TOC: container for ToC, container to search for headers
[11:32:54 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> before pushing to the project-repo
[11:32:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> what does that mean?
[11:33:18 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, what I've created (so far) is a page with as many FSS styles as I can. UIOpts skinny and fat panels can be applied to it for testing
[11:33:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o oh, so not the previews, but the place where we merge everything?
[11:33:51 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> anastasiac - great. on github somewhere? do we have a jira for that
[11:33:57 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: not sure about the TOC stuff.. i'm guessing it is about scoping where the ToC looks for headers
[11:34:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> oh right, thanks
[11:34:26 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> heidi, in my github repo, in the "FLUID-4203-newUIOptionsPage" branch
[11:34:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> sweet thanks
[11:36:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: i pushed the change up to my fork
[11:36:28 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, I'll hav ea look
[11:36:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: thanks
[11:51:41 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> mlam: Should I work on FLUID-3886 or should I play soccer?
[11:51:55 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> hahaha soccer
[11:51:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark>
[11:52:04 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'll start on it in the next 9 minutes
[11:52:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then finish up after we are victorious
[11:52:31 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> obvs! sounds good
[11:52:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o tasked me with the mission of scoring some goals in his absence
[11:52:44 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> which doesn't really seem very promising
[11:53:42 CDT(-0500)] <mlam> haha. I think it's a doable task. We should file a JIRA for that
[11:58:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> lol
[12:00:08 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4225
[12:00:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I assume it's a blocker?
[12:01:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: i think so...
[12:01:26 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i'll be keeping an eye on this one
[12:05:19 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: does json2.js need to be added on every page that uses fluid.js
[12:39:40 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> haha soccer jira - nicee
[13:32:33 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: 2 goals, 2 assists and, umm, 2...
[13:32:39 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> well, you know
[13:33:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: you did all that.. nice work
[13:33:21 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I guess it's time for the dev meeting
[13:33:26 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> as far as your question about json2.js
[13:33:31 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think the answer is yes
[13:33:35 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I'd have to check the code again
[13:33:39 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well, wait a sec
[13:33:40 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> it may be an IoC requirement
[13:33:47 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I don't think we have finished talking about json2.js
[13:33:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Or even started
[13:33:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> "wait"
[13:34:10 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Bosmon: What are you saying?
[13:34:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> huh?
[13:34:32 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Justin_o: At the moment, yes, it's a dependency of Fluid.js
[13:35:09 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'll comment on the JIRA, and then we can talk about the choices at the dev meeting
[13:35:33 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark, Bosmon : okay.. well once the json2 talk is over.. we may want to go through and add it in to all the files that are missing it.. i spotted at least a few other places it's missing
[13:35:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: which jira is it?
[13:36:03 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'm looking for it
[13:36:12 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'm pretty sure colinclark made one
[13:36:29 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: i saw the one colin made for the unit tests.. but that one has been closed
[13:37:18 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-4197
[13:37:40 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> Bosmon: thank you
[13:40:13 CDT(-0500)] <michelled__> fluid-everyone: does anyone want to be skyped into the dev meeting today?
[13:40:23 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> michelled__: I do please
[13:40:27 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Also, can we gather up an agenda
[13:40:28 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> ?
[13:41:14 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I can list a few things I can remember, but I'm pretty forgetful
[13:41:29 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 1. Shall we only use git pull requests during bug parade?
[13:41:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 2. Can we call bug parade on Monday?
[13:41:50 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> michelled__: could you please skype me also
[13:41:53 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 3. json2.js in the framework
[13:42:23 CDT(-0500)] <michelled__> harriswong: I lost you
[13:42:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> 4. Infusion 1.4 to do list
[13:43:04 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> colinclark: we also need to talk about some quick testing before bug parade
[13:43:19 CDT(-0500)] <harriswong> michelled__: back
[13:48:10 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok, I have added a comment to FLUID-4197
[14:45:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> fluid-everyone: Here's the JavaScript book Antranig is talking about at the dev meeting: http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/1593272820/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&amp;m=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB
[14:45:51 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's highly recommended as a tutorial for learning JavaScript
[14:47:53 CDT(-0500)] <athena> thanks colinclark - i'll have to pass that on to unicon
[14:49:50 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok, that was probably enough stuff anyway
[14:49:55 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I see michelled__ lost her connection again...
[14:49:59 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> yeah
[14:50:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cindyli is just asking when you'll push her branches, Bosmon
[14:50:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Ok
[14:50:25 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I said we'd bug you a bit to look at them asap
[14:50:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I think she has a little change or two first
[14:50:38 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Well... didn't I look at them last night?
[14:50:44 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I thought the idea was I would just push them anyway
[14:50:51 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> ok, I'll wait
[14:50:52 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> That's what she meant
[14:50:57 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I'll look at console.log() in the meantime
[14:51:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Give it a few minutes, and she'll be ready
[14:51:07 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> thanks
[14:51:23 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I checked quickly and it looks like new versions of Chrome and Safari support multiple arguments to console.log()
[14:51:37 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> ok, that's cool
[14:51:47 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I also saw some blog posts from Paul Irish and Ben Alman with a microframework for "graceful log degradation"
[14:52:12 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> colinclark do we have that book around?
[14:53:05 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> There's a slightly older version of it online, if you don't want to shell out
[14:53:13 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> It's in my shopping cart, heidi, but I haven't bought it yet
[14:53:18 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> maybe I should check it out
[14:53:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> The nice thing is that it's pretty cheap
[14:53:46 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> $20 CAD
[14:54:16 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: i made a few more adjustments this morning according to ur review feedback. pushing them in now and u may wanna merge my branch after the push
[14:54:36 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> He was a good speaker, and his book is a lot more thoughtful than programming texts tend to be
[14:55:20 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I guess in his mind he was wanting this to be in the space that "The Little Schemer" was, only for JavaScript
[14:55:25 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Thanks, cindyli
[14:56:56 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> Oh, colinclark - I did my first "git stash" on Monday....
[14:56:59 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> it seemed to work ok
[14:57:06 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> And didn't seem to screw up the "tramlines graph"
[14:57:22 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> I did one when accepting your "ii" branch for 4174....
[14:58:42 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> I stash all the time now
[14:58:50 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Glad it worked for you
[15:10:48 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Bosmon: colinclark, i've pushed in the changes but forgot to mention that i haven't finished all ur suggestions. still one issue, hopefully the last issue, that i'm working on which is to re-factor "textSize" and "lineSpacing" into a self-contained component. this may take a bit longer. should my branch wait to be merged till i get this done?
[15:11:12 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> cindyli: It's up to you
[15:11:12 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> the bug parade testing is next monday, as long as we merge my branch before it, should be fine, right?
[15:11:30 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> Even if Bosmon merges your branch, you can keep working on it
[15:11:34 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> and then we'll merge it again
[15:11:40 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> ok, great.
[15:11:50 CDT(-0500)] <Bosmon> It's interesting how github takes the heat out of these kinds of decisions
[15:14:51 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> anastasiac: can FLUID-4150 be closed?
[15:16:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena: hello... so i fixed that bug that created for pager.. Bosmon pushed it up the project repo yesterday
[15:16:09 CDT(-0500)] <athena> oh cool
[15:16:12 CDT(-0500)] <anastasiac> Justin_o, it looks good to me. If you and heidi feel that the actual linearization itself is working as you'd hope, then yes, I'd say close it
[15:16:13 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> hopefully it will be better for you this time round
[15:16:19 CDT(-0500)] <athena> thanks, no worries!
[15:16:25 CDT(-0500)] <athena> didn't get in our way too much
[15:16:36 CDT(-0500)] <athena> fluid 1.4-ish seems to be working just fine right now
[15:17:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> athena: that's great to hear
[15:17:56 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: if you have a chance, did you want to take a quick peak at the code that got pushed into the project repo for linearization
[15:18:31 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i think it should all be there fine..
[15:18:39 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o yeah, can it wait for test day?
[15:19:08 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: hmm.. sure.. i'll just close it off.. and if we find new issues we can just reopen or create a new jira
[15:20:08 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o ah, sorry, didn't realise it hasn't been closed - i can take a peek ya
[15:21:00 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: thanks.. if you just want to take a quick look at the css and make sure it got merged correctly.. i'll comment on the jira about the merge and you can close it
[15:21:02 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> if it's all okay
[15:21:49 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> k
[15:24:16 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o i'm not seeing the changes in master
[15:24:19 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> in fss-layout
[15:24:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o>
[15:24:50 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> are you?
[15:25:06 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i'll take a look
[15:25:21 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o n/m my bad
[15:25:31 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> i pulled origin instead of upstream duhh
[15:25:36 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi:
[15:27:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o i see the fss-layout changes but not the test file - does it live in manual-tests still or elsewhere?
[15:28:34 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> n/m found it in demos
[15:28:42 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. moved it up to the demos
[15:28:55 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> we are amassing quite a number of fss demos
[15:29:28 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o rad. closing issue
[15:30:14 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: thanks
[15:30:39 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: so i think that just leaves us with the clearfix one for FSS
[15:32:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o cool, and i think that should be fine once gary takes a peek
[15:32:12 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. i think so..
[15:32:32 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> i might have to fix up that demo a bit though... at least move it to the demos directory, but that shouldn't be too much work
[15:32:55 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ah ya
[15:37:23 CDT(-0500)] <cindyli> Justin_o: Bosmon, colinclark, another pull request I sent was for 4207 which is to IoCify ui enhancer. after reading antranig's review for 4171, this branch seems completing part of the work but not all. but since it's working and hopefully moving in the right direction, we may also wanna merge it before the bug parade testing. can someone review and ensure it's ok to merge.
[15:37:30 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o might be some tweaking needed for linear ... i just added the class to jameswy's new UIO full w preview and there are a few wonky things
[15:38:35 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: really
[15:38:37 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> what's wrong?
[15:39:42 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> slider too smushed, checkbox on diff line than label, save/reset/cancel on same line (should be stacked?)
[15:39:48 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o ^
[15:39:57 CDT(-0500)] <colinclark> smushed sliders
[15:40:01 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> not too terrible, just needs tweakage
[15:40:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ha
[15:40:44 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i wonder if the markup should change?
[15:40:53 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> or maybe that's a problem with backwards compatability
[15:41:00 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> also, i'm slightly weirded out by the slider becoming full width... but maybe it's fine
[15:41:06 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> i was fine with it before
[15:42:02 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o yeah not sure... cos parts of the slider shouldn't linearize, like the imgs we have to the left/right of the slidey
[15:42:58 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: i guess file new jiras as necesary.. and we can tackle them for bug parade
[15:43:05 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> hopefully they won't be too hard to address
[15:43:17 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o yeah i think separate jiras will be easier
[15:43:24 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> than reopening the general linearizing one
[15:47:11 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: yes.. agreed.. the problem with general ones is that they tend to grow and become unweildly
[15:48:26 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o think we can pair this week to finish the tabs/panel components? i think i'm doing okay but would like yr help at some point
[15:49:18 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: sure.. i'll probably only be online early in the morning tomorrow
[15:49:32 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o cool are you around friday too?
[15:49:45 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> yes.. i should be available on firday
[15:49:46 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> friday
[15:49:52 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> ok great
[15:50:20 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> getting livePreview going would be great too Justin_o
[15:51:28 CDT(-0500)] <Justin_o> heidi: sure.. these are all subcomponents of ui options?
[15:51:44 CDT(-0500)] <heidi> Justin_o ya